1997 JOINT COMMITTEE ON TECHNOLOGY

JOINT COMMITTEE ON TECHNOLOGY

February 5, 1997 Hearing Room S226

9:00 A.M. Tapes 7-8

MEMBERS PRESENT:

Sen. David Nelson, Co-Chair

Sen. Ginny Burdick, (Co-Vice Chair)

Rep. George Eighmey

MEMBER EXCUSED:

Rep. Ron Adams, Co-Chair

Sen. Bill Dwyer

Sen. Jeannette Hamby

Rep. Tom Brian

Rep. Jim Hill

Rep. Anitra Rasmussen

STAFF PRESENT:

Julie Neburka, Administrator

John Lattimer, Legis. Fiscal Officer

Gary Seeder, Administrative Support

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:

How Oregon Can Become a Better Consumer of Technology

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker's exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

Tape/#
Speaker
Comments
Tape 7, A
003
Co-Chair Nelson
Calls meeting to order at 9:01 as Sub-Committee for purpose of receiving testimony.
013

Introductions
025
Co-Chair Nelson
Declares the purpose of the meeting.
HOW OREGON CAN BECOME A BETTER CONSUMER OF TECHNOLOGY
032
Joanne Hugi
Gives presentation on the following:
* U of O's success with network technologies and accolades
* collaboration with OSSHE, specifically NERO
* federal grant to bring community network to Eugene-Springfield
* program to connect Land Education Network with Coastnet
* Cyberschool
078
Hugi
Passes out EXHIBIT A. Discusses:
* the Oregon Exchange
* collaboration between OSSHE and DAS in engineering program
109
Curt Pederson
Chief Information Officer for the Department of Administrative Services. Contributes the following:
* OSSHE's initial concerns with SB 994
* increasing use of fast-packet technology
* higher education's leadership with internet and NERO
* ATM tariff contracts
148
Hugi
Names schools connected to NERO.
149
Pederson
Mentions that SB 994 could have been used as a "club." Talks of feeling of partnership and gives examples of effective cooperation between OSSHE and state government.
185
Co-Chair Nelson
Asks of potential risks.
186
Pederson
States that sometimes the different "stakeholders" don't agree.
193
Hugi
Mentions common desire to see increased bandwidth in the state in order to attract the telecommunications vendors.
199
Co-Chair Nelson
Asks about rural areas.
201
Pederson
Mentions fast-packet technology and possibility of a statewide RFP. Is working with the 34 phone companies.
228
Co-Chair Nelson
Asks Hugi what she thinks about that possibility.
230
Hugi
Responds that the dispersed communities in Oregon's rural areas makes it a hard sell for the phone companies to provide the higher speed lines.
250
Pederson
Talks about Ed-Net and prison systems bringing telecommunications technology or bandwidth into rural areas. Elaborates on the video technology being used by the state prisons and juvenile detention centers. Gives an example of a prisoner implicating himself through video telecommunications due to his comfort level with the medium.
301
Sen. Burdick
Asks about potential legal problems associated with that case.
304
Pederson
States that he doesn't know the answer.
315
Pat Middelburg
Assistant Division Administrator. Cites teleconferencing uses applied in other states.
322
Co-Chair Nelson
Asks the witnesses to identify themselves.
333
Holly Zanvilley
State System of Higher Education. Speaks on the following:
* interactive video capacity used to offer degree programs to rural areas
* Eastern Oregon State College's teacher-training program and its use of interactive video
* nurses program, social program, and others "all over the state" allowing students to train in the field
383
Zanvilley
* concerns over fast-packet implementation dates impeding their progress
* discusses EXHIBIT B
433
Zanvilley
* efforts to create a "one-stop shopping" website listing the state's educational programs
442
Co-Chair Nelson
Asks witnesses to identify themselves
444
John Root
State System of Higher Education. States that the number of programs in distance learning is growing rapidly. Assures the committee that there will be a continuing need for interactive video. Mentions that Web courses are expanding even more rapidly than interactive video.
Tape 8, A
041
Co-Chair Nelson
Introduces Rep. Eighmey.
043
Hugi
Stresses the importance of investing in multiple technologies.
054
Pederson
Notes that higher education is better at "content development" than K-12 because of K-12's lack of funds.
059
Zanvilley
Mentions a marine biology class offered K-12 through teleconferencing and K-12's reluctance to embrace the technology.
070
Hugi
Mentions desk-top video technology and possibly sharing it with state government.
076
Pederson
States that DAS has formed a steering committee with Norma Paulus of the Department of Education. Describes the committee's makeup and purpose.
090
Co-Chair Nelson
Asks for questions. Suggests that there is a communication problem between the different state entities using technology.
096
Rep. Eighmey
Speaks of possibly setting up an oversight legislative committee to collect and disseminate information. States that we are not doing enough inter-agency coordination. Notes that such coordination is required by present law.
118
Eric Greg
State System of Higher Education. Mentions SB 994's unprecedented levels of success. Notes that the state hasn't impeded those "in the lead" but has made sure that everyone is heading in the same direction. Mentions linking up with community colleges using telecommunications. States that there isn't isolation between state agencies and state education.
165
Pederson
Speaks of his preference for cooperation over compulsion. Points out that he doesn't want a technological "ceiling" imposed on any government entity but rather consideration of how that technology can benefit all government entities.
199
Hugi
Notes initial concern with SB 994. Expresses approval of Curt Pederson's approach.
208
Co-Chair Nelson
Asks about the possibility of an oversight committee.
209
Pederson
Mentions Washington's dissatisfaction with their oversight committee. Mentions difficulties with oversight.
227
Mike Zanon
DAS' Information Resources Management Division. Speaks of an urgent need for insight rather than oversight. Notes need to collect the right people into a smaller oversight structure.
247
Ted Hughes
Interjects that there are examples of successful oversight committees, noting Colorado's.
254
Rep. Eighmey
Says he envisioned something akin to city government, where a manager manages while a council decides policy.
269
Zanon
Cites fragmentation within present oversight structure. Expresses desire to "start from scratch."
287
Zanvilley
Gives examples in agreement with Zanon's comment.
312
Co-Chair Nelson
Asks audience for ideas of how to make "this whole thing" work. Adjourns meeting at 9:53 A.M.
Submitted By, Reviewed By,

Gary Seeder, Julie Neburka,

Administrative Support Administrator

Transcribed By,

Coben Tistadt,

Administrative Support

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A - How Oregon Can Be a Better Consumer of Technology, written materials, Joanne Hugi, 24 pp.

B - How Oregon Can Be a Better Consumer of Technology, written materials, Holly Zanvilley, 18 pp.

Tape/#	Speaker	Comments
Tape 7, A
003	Co-Chair Nelson	Calls meeting to order at 9:01 as Sub-Committee for purpose of receiving testimony.
013		Introductions
025	Co-Chair Nelson	Declares the purpose of the meeting.
HOW OREGON CAN BECOME A BETTER CONSUMER OF TECHNOLOGY
032	Joanne Hugi	Gives presentation on the following: * U of O's success with network technologies and accolades * collaboration with OSSHE, specifically NERO * federal grant to bring community network to Eugene-Springfield * program to connect Land Education Network with Coastnet * Cyberschool
078	Hugi	Passes out EXHIBIT A. Discusses: * the Oregon Exchange * collaboration between OSSHE and DAS in engineering program
109	Curt Pederson	Chief Information Officer for the Department of Administrative Services. Contributes the following: * OSSHE's initial concerns with SB 994 * increasing use of fast-packet technology * higher education's leadership with internet and NERO * ATM tariff contracts
148	Hugi	Names schools connected to NERO.
149	Pederson	Mentions that SB 994 could have been used as a "club." Talks of feeling of partnership and gives examples of effective cooperation between OSSHE and state government.
185	Co-Chair Nelson	Asks of potential risks.
186	Pederson	States that sometimes the different "stakeholders" don't agree.
193	Hugi	Mentions common desire to see increased bandwidth in the state in order to attract the telecommunications vendors.
199	Co-Chair Nelson	Asks about rural areas.
201	Pederson	Mentions fast-packet technology and possibility of a statewide RFP. Is working with the 34 phone companies.
228	Co-Chair Nelson	Asks Hugi what she thinks about that possibility.
230	Hugi	Responds that the dispersed communities in Oregon's rural areas makes it a hard sell for the phone companies to provide the higher speed lines.
250	Pederson	Talks about Ed-Net and prison systems bringing telecommunications technology or bandwidth into rural areas. Elaborates on the video technology being used by the state prisons and juvenile detention centers. Gives an example of a prisoner implicating himself through video telecommunications due to his comfort level with the medium.
301	Sen. Burdick	Asks about potential legal problems associated with that case.
304	Pederson	States that he doesn't know the answer.
315	Pat Middelburg	Assistant Division Administrator. Cites teleconferencing uses applied in other states.
322	Co-Chair Nelson	Asks the witnesses to identify themselves.
333	Holly Zanvilley	State System of Higher Education. Speaks on the following: * interactive video capacity used to offer degree programs to rural areas * Eastern Oregon State College's teacher-training program and its use of interactive video * nurses program, social program, and others "all over the state" allowing students to train in the field
383	Zanvilley	* concerns over fast-packet implementation dates impeding their progress * discusses EXHIBIT B
433	Zanvilley	* efforts to create a "one-stop shopping" website listing the state's educational programs
442	Co-Chair Nelson	Asks witnesses to identify themselves
444	John Root	State System of Higher Education. States that the number of programs in distance learning is growing rapidly. Assures the committee that there will be a continuing need for interactive video. Mentions that Web courses are expanding even more rapidly than interactive video.
Tape 8, A
041	Co-Chair Nelson	Introduces Rep. Eighmey.
043	Hugi	Stresses the importance of investing in multiple technologies.
054	Pederson	Notes that higher education is better at "content development" than K-12 because of K-12's lack of funds.
059	Zanvilley	Mentions a marine biology class offered K-12 through teleconferencing and K-12's reluctance to embrace the technology.
070	Hugi	Mentions desk-top video technology and possibly sharing it with state government.
076	Pederson	States that DAS has formed a steering committee with Norma Paulus of the Department of Education. Describes the committee's makeup and purpose.
090	Co-Chair Nelson	Asks for questions. Suggests that there is a communication problem between the different state entities using technology.
096	Rep. Eighmey	Speaks of possibly setting up an oversight legislative committee to collect and disseminate information. States that we are not doing enough inter-agency coordination. Notes that such coordination is required by present law.
118	Eric Greg	State System of Higher Education. Mentions SB 994's unprecedented levels of success. Notes that the state hasn't impeded those "in the lead" but has made sure that everyone is heading in the same direction. Mentions linking up with community colleges using telecommunications. States that there isn't isolation between state agencies and state education.
165	Pederson	Speaks of his preference for cooperation over compulsion. Points out that he doesn't want a technological "ceiling" imposed on any government entity but rather consideration of how that technology can benefit all government entities.
199	Hugi	Notes initial concern with SB 994. Expresses approval of Curt Pederson's approach.
208	Co-Chair Nelson	Asks about the possibility of an oversight committee.
209	Pederson	Mentions Washington's dissatisfaction with their oversight committee. Mentions difficulties with oversight.
227	Mike Zanon	DAS' Information Resources Management Division. Speaks of an urgent need for insight rather than oversight. Notes need to collect the right people into a smaller oversight structure.
247	Ted Hughes	Interjects that there are examples of successful oversight committees, noting Colorado's.
254	Rep. Eighmey	Says he envisioned something akin to city government, where a manager manages while a council decides policy.
269	Zanon	Cites fragmentation within present oversight structure. Expresses desire to "start from scratch."
287	Zanvilley	Gives examples in agreement with Zanon's comment.
312	Co-Chair Nelson	Asks audience for ideas of how to make "this whole thing" work. Adjourns meeting at 9:53 A.M.