HOUSE COMMITTEE ON ADVANCING E-GOVERNMENT

 

 

June 14, 2001                                                                                                          Hearing Room E

10:00 AM                                                                                                                         Tape 63-64

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Rep. Jim Hill, Chair

Rep. Rob Patridge, Vice-Chair

Rep. Kathy Lowe

MEMBER EXCUSED:

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Mark Jolley, Committee Administrator

Alice Morton, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           SB 479A – Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 63, A

005

Chair Hill

Calls the meeting to order at 10:05 am and opens a work session on SB 479A.

SB 479A – Work Session

007

Mark Jolley

Committee Administrator.  Gives overview of the bill

024

Tom O’Connor

Oregon Municipal Utilities.  Says they do not support the –7 amendments.

039

Olive Henry

Olympia Water board Details reasons she does not support the –7 amendments. Adds the definitions do not correspond with the Federal definitions.

064

Rep. Patridge

Points out that a three-year cost projection is the base line, that it can be longer.

075

Chair Hill

Invites others to come speak.  Notes that AT&T is not present.

077

Ginny Lang

Lobbyist representing QWEST.  Explains the amendments she has proposed and the two primary changes they would make to Sec. 105.

103

Mike Dewey

Oregon Cable Telecommunications Association. Says he want to talk about HB 2680. Says it almost no longer exists.

210

Dewey

Continues testimony.

228

Dave Barenberg

League of Oregon Cities.  Speaks to the QWEST amendments.  Indicates cities have serious problems with it.  Refers to the 4% franchise fees.

273

Chair Hill

Clarifies rates and PUC authority in determining basic rates.

294

Barenberg

Concurs and points out other changes.

329

Beth Vergis-Duncan

Franchise Coordinator for the City of Salem. Presents her position.

354

Chair Hill

Responds to her comments on the franchise fees.

425

Barenberg

Makes additional comments related to the franchise issue.

435

Susan Schneider

Lobbyist, City of Portland. Says their pledge to come back next session is not a delaying technique against change, instead the issues is just so complex they want to give it appropriate attention.

TAPE 64A

032

Bill Penhollow

Lobbyist, Association of Oregon Counties. Says they did not receive the –8 amendments, but can comment on the –5, which has elements of HB 2280. 

059

Steve McClure

Commissioner in an eastern Oregon community. Says he will talk about delivering telecommunications and the necessary infrastructure from the rural Oregon perspective.

075

Rep. Patridge

Asks why they are opposed to the –5and –7.

085

Penhollow

Responds.

100

Rep. Patridge

Says that Mr. Penhollow still has not answered the question he raised. Asks can you state for the record, how this takes that tool away.

115

Penhollow

Responds he spoke from his understanding of Mr. Dewey’s testimony, and, if he misunderstands, sorry.

123

Rep. Patridge

Pursues clarifying their point.

127

McClure

Responds as an elected official.

140

Rep. Lowe

Says she is trying to envision an election of this type.

219

Rep. Patridge

Makes it clear that he is reading this correctly and stresses that the AOC is objecting because it has more public process, and they are objecting the public process part of it, not because of what it would takes from them.

250

Penhollow

Responds that there would be an additional expense to the public.

270

Rep. Patridge

Again stresses his view that having public input and debate is important.  For the record, he disagrees with them.

300

Chair Hill

Expresses his agreement with Rep. Patridge comments.

350

Penhollow

Responds.

449

Kathy Scapp

Former Mayor of Ashland, Oregon.  Says she oversaw the Ashland FiberNetwork. Says she has heard many misrepresentations in the past several months.

Tape 62, B

100

Scapp

Continues testimony.

140

Chair Hill

Says he does not agree with her.

145

Scapp

Clarifies her point that those with money win, and continues her testimony.

187

Rep. Patridge

Asks, given the controversy around the Ashland FiberNetwork, why didn’t people come out to meet and show their disagreement.

200

Scapp

Responds that this was an issue supported by the Ashland Community.

235

Rep. King

Testifies regarding the –3 amendments, (EXHIBIT D) which basically define telecommunications.

290

Doris Penwell

OECDD.  Says they worked with Rep. King on the amendment and support it. The OECDD currently believes it has the authority to deal with this, and that the amendment are clarifying language.

315

John Power

Lobbyist representing AT&T.  Says he does not agree with what Rep. King says would happen and therefore they oppose it.

390

Rep. Patridge

MOTION:  Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of conceptual amendments.

 

400

Rep. Patridge

MOTION:  Moves to AMEND SB 479A, -5 amendments, on page 2, in line 6, after "a local government must," insert "initially".

410

Rep. Patridge

Gives his rationale for the proposed change.

 

 

VOTE:  2-1

AYE:               2 - Patridge, Hill

NAY:               1 - Lowe

440

Chair Hill

The motion CARRIES.

 

443

Rep. Patridge

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 479A, -5 amendments dated 6/11/01, as conceptually amended on 6/14/01.

024

Rep. Lowe

Says she does not like this fast approach and feels it could be preferable to give interested parties more time to work it out.

035

Rep. Patridge

Says for the record he is voting for the A5 amendments. Asks cities and counties, what are you afraid of.

045

Rep. Lowe

Says she wants to respond, says that it is the local flavor of how participation evolves which should be viewed and respected.

050

 

VOTE:  2-1

AYE:               2 - Patridge, Hill

NAY:               1 - Lowe

 

Chair Hill

The motion CARRIES.

 

065

Rep. Patridge

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB  479A, -6 amendments dated 6/13/01.

070

Rep. Lowe

Asks for clarification of the different amendments.

075

Chair Hill

Summarizes the different amendments.

086

Chair Hill

VOTE:  2-1

AYE:               2 - Patridge, Hill

NAY:               1 - Lowe

 

Chair Hill

The motion CARRIES.

089

Rep. Patridge

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 479A, -3 amendments dated 5/25/01.

 

 

VOTE:  3-0

106

Chair Hill

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

 

110

Rep. Patridge

MOTION:  Moves SB 479A as conceptually amended to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation, AND to rescind referral to School Funding and Tax Fairness/Revenue Committee.

125

Rep. Lowe

Says she does not like it.

126

Chair Hill

VOTE:  2-1

AYE:               2 - Patridge, Hill

NAY:               1 - Lowe

 

Chair Hill

The motion CARRIES.

134

Rep. Patridge

Moves the committee adjourn at 5 p.m.

140

Rep. Patridge

Moves the committee recess at 11:40 a.m. until 1:00 p.m. today.

145

 

The Committee does not reconvene from the recess and adjourns at 5 p.m.

 

Submitted By,                                                                           Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Alice Morton,                                                                           Mark Jolley,

Committee Assistant                                                                 Committee Administrator

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 479, -5 amendment, staff, 2pp.

B – SB 479, -6 amendment, staff, 2pp.

C - SB 479, -3 amendment, staff, 2pp.

D – SB 479, written comments, Rep. Al King, 1p.