HOUSE COMMITTEE ON STREAM RESTORATION

& SPECIES RECOVERY

 

 

February 07, 2001                                                                                                   Hearing Room E

1:00 P.M.                                                                                                                     Tapes  26 - 27

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Rep. Bob Jenson, Chair

Rep. Jan Lee, Vice-Chair

Rep. Randy Leonard Vice-Chair

Rep. Tim Knopp

Rep. Jeff Kruse

Rep. Patti Smith

Rep. Al King

Rep. Carolyn Tomei

Rep. Kelley Wirth

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Sandy Thiele-Cirka, Committee Administrator

Linda K. Gatto, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:

                                                Informational Meeting

                                                   Coastal Salmon Restoration & Production Task Force

                                                Public Hearing – HB 2536

                                                Informational Meeting

                                                   Wild & Hatchery Fish Discussion

                                                       Oregon State University Extension Service

                                                       Fishhawk Fisheries, Astoria

                                                       Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 26, A

003

Chair Jenson

Calls meeting to order at 1:05 p.m and opens informational meeting.

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

COASTAL SALMON RESTORATION & PRODUCTION TASK FORCE

035

Paul Heikkila

Chairman, Coastal Production and Restoration Task Force. Introduces panel.

046

Sen. Joan Dukes

Senate District 1. Reviews the task force membership. Explains the task force’s goals and future plans. Discusses differences between hatchery and wild fish.

150

Chair Jenson

Questions if Sen. Dukes’s group would be opposed to House amendments expanding the program.

165

Sen. Dukes

Answers no, supports the need for continued funding.

172

Rep. King

Comments on wild fish supplementation. Requests a definition for wild fish and clarification regarding hatchery facilities.

202

Sen. Dukes

Defines wild fish. Describes the projects and their goals.

234

Heikkila

Provides further clarification about hatcheries.

273

Rep. Tomei

Questions the genetic composition relating to the mating of wild and hatchery fish.

279

Heikkila

Answers that if the stocks are geographically close to the wild population, the impacts are minimal. Notes that there is weakening if stocks are different from the wild population. Further explains how hatchery fish relate to wild fish.

318

Onno Husing

Director, Oregon Coastal Zone Management Association. Submits and summarizes testimony (EXHIBIT A). Comments that conducting DNA tests on the fish scales will provide answers. Discusses merits of the DNA tests. Explains the dynamics of fish populations.

416

Sen. Dukes

Comments on the selection process.

TAPE 27, A

031

Chair Jenson

Asks about the white paper draft and when it will be finalized. States that Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife (ODFW) has a companion piece to it.

037

Sen. Dukes

Notes that the task force adopted it pending some changes.

045

Husing

Further clarifies that the report is essentially complete and is being re-sent to the task force members for a final input. Explains how the projects came to be.

063

Chair Jenson

Closes informational meeting and opens public hearing on HB 2536.

HB 2536 – PUBLIC HEARING

061

Sandy Thiele-Cirka

Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2536.

095

Geoff Huntington

Executive Director, Oregon Watershed Enhancement Board (OWEB). Submits and summarizes testimony (EXHIBIT B).

164

Huntington

Comments that what the bill is requesting is currently being done.

170

Rep. Lee

Questions how the cost sharing occurs with on the ground practices.

176

Huntington

Responds there is a match requirement for projects that are not on the ground. Provides explanation.

190

Rep. Lee

Questions if OWEB and the Soil and Water Conservation Commission engage in cost-sharing programs and how it differs from the program being requested in HB 2536.

193

Huntington

Responds that OWEB is developing a rules advisory committee to address  and focus on small identifiable projects.

231

Rep. Kruse

Discusses the concern with state funds being allocated to state agencies. Addresses the removal of legislative overview from the grant-funding process.

300

Rep. King

Comments that outside insight provides good direction for dealing with this process.

311

Rep. Kruse

Notes that micro managing is a potential problem the legislature faces.

325

Rep. Lee

Comments in support of the oversight from the point of view that the need is being met.

337

Huntington

Comments in agreement and offers support in the process.

371

Glen Stonebrink

Representing the Oregon Cattlemen’s Association. States that his comments are on a personal level. Testifies in support and explains benefits of the program.

TAPE 26, B

024

Chair Jenson

Closes the public hearing on HB 2536 and re-opens informational meeting.

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

034

Jim Bergeron

Marine/Sea Grant Extension Faculty. Introduces Steve Fick.

041

Steve Fick

Owner, Fishhawk Fisheries. Explains that evidence indicates that there are conflicts between wild and hatchery fish. Argues for a strong strategic plan that does not encumber the hatchery system.

080

Fick

Continues discussing Oregon’s environmental issues which have resulted in diminished wild fish runs.

101

Fick

Reviews hatchery production in Alaska. Notes that the hatchery fish are separated from the wild fish. 

120

Rep. Tomei

Requests clarification relating to harvesting and wild fish.

128

Fick

Explains that he was proposing that streams that currently sustain fish should be addressed before those streams that are suitable for fish populations to survive.

132

Rep. Tomei

Asks how it would impede hatchery fish.

134

Bergeron

Answers that in streams where there are no wild Coho, the watershed council is interested in the re-establishment and the salmon project.

157

Fick

Comments that technology has been developed to be more selective of hatchery fish. Cites example of the development of a new fishing net which lowers fish mortality rates.

175

John Platt

Special Assistant to Executive Director, Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission. Discusses treaties between Native Americans and the United States regarding salmon.

201

Chris Beasley

Conservation Geneticist, Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission. Presents power-point presentation relating to tribal fish policies (EXHIBIT C).

245

Rep. King

Asks for explanation of outplanting.

247

Beasley

Provides explanation of outplanting. Continues presentation.

270

Chair Jenson

Questions if evolutionary significant unit (ESU) is used on the East Coast.

272

Beasley

Responds not to his knowledge. Continues presentation.

309

Beasley

Discusses common assumptions that relate to fish populations and role of the environment.

369

Chair Jenson

Comments that often salmon mortality is thought to be related to the fish themselves when there are often environmental factors that play a significant role.

380

Beasley

Concurs. Explains further. Continues presentation. Comments that natural mortality is random.

TAPE 27, B

003

Rep. Kruse

Asks if Mr. Beasley would assume that predation on juvenile salmon is random.

006

Beasley

Responds affirmatively. Continues presentation. Reviews the probability of differentiating between wild and hatchery fish. Comments on the need for hatchery fish.

125

Beasley

Discusses how salmon contribute to the ecosystem.

157

Beasley

Concludes with the Tribal proposal.

191

Cathryn Brigham

Member of the Umatilla Board of Trustees. Discusses economic and political aspects of salmon restoration. Comments on existing treaties

224

Platt

Comments on the power crisis and the economic impact.

257

Brigham

Discusses the success of salmon restoration on the Umatilla River.

287

Chair Jenson

Further elaborates on the success of the Umatilla.

306

Rep. Tomei

Asks Mr. Beasley why hatchery fish are successful in the Umatilla.

318

Beasley

Responds that it is a result of the current hatchery practices.

331

Brigham

Offers further explanation of fish practices.

363

Chair Jenson

Notes that efforts of the Umatilla Tribe on the Umatilla River have extended into the Walla Walla River.

388

Beasley

Concurs. Provides closing comments.

394

Chair Jenson

Closes informational meeting and adjourns the meeting at 3:04 p.m.

 

Submitted By,                                                                           Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Linda K. Gatto,                                                                        Sandy Thiele-Cirka

Committee Assistant                                                                 Committee Administrator

 

 

Transcribed by,

 

 

 

Michael Reiley

 

 

 

 

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – Coastal Salmon Restoration & Production Task Force, white paper, Onno Husing,

       33 pp

B –HB 2536, written testimony Geoff Huntington, 10 pp

C – Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission, written testimony/power-point,

      Chris Beasley, 57 pp