HOUSE COMMITTEE ON STREAM RESTORATION

 & SPECIES RECOVERY

 

 

February 21, 2001                                                                                                   Hearing Room E

1:00 P.M.                                                                                                                     Tapes  40 - 41

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Rep. Bob Jenson, Chair

Rep. Jan Lee, Vice-Chair

Rep. Randy Leonard Vice-Chair

Rep. Tim Knopp

Rep. Jeff Kruse

Rep. Patti Smith

Rep. Al King

Rep. Carolyn Tomei

Rep. Kelley Wirth

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:          Rep. Tim Knopp

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Sandy Thiele-Cirka, Committee Administrator

Linda K. Gatto, Committee Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:          

                                                Introduction of Committee Bills:

                                                   LC 2627-1

                                                   LC 2627-2

                                                   LC 3468

                                                 Informational Meeting:

                                                    Coastal Landscape Analysis and Modeling Study (CLAMS)

    Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team (IMST)

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 40, A

004

Chair Jenson

Calls the meeting to order at 1:04 p.m. and opens a work session for introduction of committee bills.

INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE BILLS

008

Sandy Thiele-Cirka

Administrator.  Summarizes LC draft 2627-1.

014

Rep. Leonard

MOTION: Moves LC draft 2627-1 dated 2/13/01 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.

018

Chair Jenson

VOTE:  7-0

Hearing no objections, the motion CARRIES.

022

Rep. Kruse

MOTION: Moves LC draft 2627-2 dated 2/13/01 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.

026

Chair Jenson

VOTE: 7-0

Hearing no objections, the motion CARRIES.

028

Thiele-Cirka

Summarizes LC draft 3468.

032

Rep. Lee

MOTION: Moves LC draft 3468 dated 02/19/01 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.

042

Chair Jenson

VOTE: 7-0

Hearing no objections, the motion CARRIES.

045

Chair Jenson

Closes the work session and opens an informational meeting.

050

Tom Spies

Research Forester, Pacific Northwest Research Station. Submits (EXHIBIT D) and begins presentation reviewing program goals and objectives..

075

Norm Johnson

Professor, College of Forestry, Oregon State University (OSU). Reviews slide presentation..

148

Johnson

Continues slide presentation.

370

Johnson

Continues with presentation, forest view 100-years from now and how this will impact the fish.

374

Gordon Reeves

Research Fisheries Biologist, Pacific Northwest Research Station. States the primary emphasis is fish habitat, fish populations, and land ownership.

TAPE 41, A

039

Reeves

Continues presentation.

084

Rep. Wirth

Questions how the different management practices are being received by private landowners.

099

Reeves

States consideration is being given to landowner restrictions and the economic impact and objectives.

136

Spies

Comments on the bio-diversity survey.

210

Rep. Kruse

Questions if the spotted owl is still considered an old-growth species.

215

Spies

Answers the models are based on forest structures.

235

Rep. Kruse

Comments on the opinion of Willamette Valley residents relative to how forest and salmon issues and the related expenses.

248

Rep. King

Comments on the profile of ownership in riparian areas.

260

Spies

Responds that the small non-industrial owners control the majority of these areas.

270

Rep. King

Asks the reference to owls breeding pairs.

283

Spies

Responds the map shows nest potential and the landscape.

306

Chair Jenson

Comments on the socioeconomic aspects.

TAPE 40, B

004

Logan Norris

Chair, Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team (IMST). Submits and reviews (EXHIBIT E).

034

Norris

Explains purpose and direction of letter.

094

Norris

States there will be a workshop the end of March and a report will be issued by April.

151

Rep. Kruse

Questions what hatchery conditions need to exist to attain the goal where there is no difference between a hatchery and a wild fish.

171

Jim Lichatowich

IMST, Comments the fish live in totally different environments and the question of how to eliminate the effect of the environment on the fish has yet to be resolved.

187

Rep. Kruse

States if we don’t have an answer maybe we need more questions.

197

Lichatowich

Responds one common conclusion is there is not enough information on what the consequences are. Suggest the legislature mandate studies on the consequences of combining the fish.

238

Rep. Kruse

Comments on the position that hatchery fish are inferior.

292

Rep. Tomei

Questions how would a study would be conducted..

304

Lichatowich

Answers by setting up specific hatcheries as research facilities.

322

Rep. King

Discusses the expenses associated with building conservation hatcheries.

372

Lichatowich

States the historical perspective for the past hundred years of managing salmon has been that wild and hatchery are the same. Notes that this has contributed to the present ESA situation.

TAPE 41, B

The following statements are the personal opinions of individual members and are not reflective of the official opinion of the IMST.

006

William Pearcy

Oregonian, reads prepared testimony (EXHIBIT C).

093

Chair Jenson

Comments on Dr. Lackey’s position relating to how many people can salmon afford.

108

Norris

Contends that returning stocks to historic numbers would be tough to accomplish, and would be reason for Dr. Lackey’s pessimism.

137

Pearcy

Agrees the opinion is pessimistic. Suggests that it discounts changes in ocean conditions, environmental recovery, and public awareness.

150

Lichatowich

Agrees, the base conclusion is that nothing will change. Notes the focus has been on looking at today and not finding remedies for the future.

239

Rep. Tomei

Questions what can Oregon do to move ahead.

260

Chair Jenson

Closes informational meeting and adjourns the meeting at 3:00 p.m.

 

Submitted By,                                                                           Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Linda K. Gatto,                                                                        Sandy Thiele-Cirka,

Committee Assistant                                                                 Committee Administrator

 

 

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – LC draft 2627-1 dated 02/13/01, staff, 1 p

B – LC draft 2627-2 dated 02/13/01, staff, 3 pp.

C – LC draft 3468 dated 02/19/01, staff, 3 pp.

D – CLAMS, written materials, Tom Spies, 9 pp.

E – Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team, written materials, Logan Norris, 5 pp.

F – SB 605, written testimony, Dr. W.G. Pearcy, 1 p