HOUSE COMMITTEE ON STREAM RESTORATION

& SPECIES RECOVERY

February 21, 2001 Hearing Room E

1:00 P.M. Tapes 40 - 41

MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Bob Jenson, Chair

Rep. Jan Lee, Vice-Chair

Rep. Randy Leonard Vice-Chair

Rep. Tim Knopp

Rep. Jeff Kruse

Rep. Patti Smith

Rep. Al King

Rep. Carolyn Tomei

Rep. Kelley Wirth

MEMBER EXCUSED: Rep. Tim Knopp

STAFF PRESENT: Sandy Thiele-Cirka, Committee Administrator

Linda K. Gatto, Committee Assistant

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:

Introduction of Committee Bills:

LC 2627-1

LC 2627-2

LC 3468

Informational Meeting:

Coastal Landscape Analysis and Modeling Study (CLAMS)

Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team (IMST)

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

TAPE/#	Speaker	Comments
TAPE 40, A
004	Chair Jenson	Calls the meeting to order at 1:04 p.m. and opens a work session for introduction of committee bills.
INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE BILLS
008	Sandy Thiele-Cirka	Administrator. Summarizes LC draft 2627-1.
014	Rep. Leonard	MOTION: Moves LC draft 2627-1 dated 2/13/01 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.
018	Chair Jenson	VOTE: 7-0 Hearing no objections, the motion CARRIES.
022	Rep. Kruse	MOTION: Moves LC draft 2627-2 dated 2/13/01 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.
026	Chair Jenson	VOTE: 7-0 Hearing no objections, the motion CARRIES.
028	Thiele-Cirka	Summarizes LC draft 3468.
032	Rep. Lee	MOTION: Moves LC draft 3468 dated 02/19/01 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.
042	Chair Jenson	VOTE: 7-0 Hearing no objections, the motion CARRIES.
045	Chair Jenson	Closes the work session and opens an informational meeting.
050	Tom Spies	Research Forester, Pacific Northwest Research Station. Submits (EXHIBIT D) and begins presentation reviewing program goals and objectives..
075	Norm Johnson	Professor, College of Forestry, Oregon State University (OSU). Reviews slide presentation..
148	Johnson	Continues slide presentation.
370	Johnson	Continues with presentation, forest view 100-years from now and how this will impact the fish.
374	Gordon Reeves	Research Fisheries Biologist, Pacific Northwest Research Station. States the primary emphasis is fish habitat, fish populations, and land ownership.
TAPE 41, A
039	Reeves	Continues presentation.
084	Rep. Wirth	Questions how the different management practices are being received by private landowners.
099	Reeves	States consideration is being given to landowner restrictions and the economic impact and objectives.
136	Spies	Comments on the bio-diversity survey.
210	Rep. Kruse	Questions if the spotted owl is still considered an old-growth species.
215	Spies	Answers the models are based on forest structures.
235	Rep. Kruse	Comments on the opinion of Willamette Valley residents relative to how forest and salmon issues and the related expenses.
248	Rep. King	Comments on the profile of ownership in riparian areas.
260	Spies	Responds that the small non-industrial owners control the majority of these areas.
270	Rep. King	Asks the reference to owls breeding pairs.
283	Spies	Responds the map shows nest potential and the landscape.
306	Chair Jenson	Comments on the socioeconomic aspects.
TAPE 40, B
004	Logan Norris	Chair, Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team (IMST). Submits and reviews (EXHIBIT E).
034	Norris	Explains purpose and direction of letter.
094	Norris	States there will be a workshop the end of March and a report will be issued by April.
151	Rep. Kruse	Questions what hatchery conditions need to exist to attain the goal where there is no difference between a hatchery and a wild fish.
171	Jim Lichatowich	IMST, Comments the fish live in totally different environments and the question of how to eliminate the effect of the environment on the fish has yet to be resolved.
187	Rep. Kruse	States if we don’t have an answer maybe we need more questions.
197	Lichatowich	Responds one common conclusion is there is not enough information on what the consequences are. Suggest the legislature mandate studies on the consequences of combining the fish.
238	Rep. Kruse	Comments on the position that hatchery fish are inferior.
292	Rep. Tomei	Questions how would a study would be conducted..
304	Lichatowich	Answers by setting up specific hatcheries as research facilities.
322	Rep. King	Discusses the expenses associated with building conservation hatcheries.
372	Lichatowich	States the historical perspective for the past hundred years of managing salmon has been that wild and hatchery are the same. Notes that this has contributed to the present ESA situation.
TAPE 41, B
The following statements are the personal opinions of individual members and are not reflective of the official opinion of the IMST.
006	William Pearcy	Oregonian, reads prepared testimony (EXHIBIT C).
093	Chair Jenson	Comments on Dr. Lackey’s position relating to how many people can salmon afford.
108	Norris	Contends that returning stocks to historic numbers would be tough to accomplish, and would be reason for Dr. Lackey’s pessimism.
137	Pearcy	Agrees the opinion is pessimistic. Suggests that it discounts changes in ocean conditions, environmental recovery, and public awareness.
150	Lichatowich	Agrees, the base conclusion is that nothing will change. Notes the focus has been on looking at today and not finding remedies for the future.
239	Rep. Tomei	Questions what can Oregon do to move ahead.
260	Chair Jenson	Closes informational meeting and adjourns the meeting at 3:00 p.m.

Submitted By, Reviewed By,

Linda K. Gatto, Sandy Thiele-Cirka,

Committee Assistant Committee Administrator

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A – LC draft 2627-1 dated 02/13/01, staff, 1 p

B – LC draft 2627-2 dated 02/13/01, staff, 3 pp.

C – LC draft 3468 dated 02/19/01, staff, 3 pp.

D – CLAMS, written materials, Tom Spies, 9 pp.

E – Independent Multidisciplinary Science Team, written materials, Logan Norris, 5 pp.

F – SB 605, written testimony, Dr. W.G. Pearcy, 1 p