HOUSE COMMITTEE ON STREAM RESTORATION

& SPECIES RECOVERY

 

 

March 12, 2001†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Hearing Room E

1:00 P.M.†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Tapes57 - 58

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:†††††††† Rep. Bob Jenson, Chair

Rep. Jan Lee, Vice-Chair

Rep. Randy Leonard Vice-Chair

Rep. Jeff Kruse

Rep. Patti Smith

Rep. Al King

Rep. Carolyn Tomei

Rep. Kelley Wirth

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:††††††††† Rep. Tim Knopp

 

STAFF PRESENT:†††††††††††††††† Sandy Thiele-Cirka, Committee Administrator

Linda K. Gatto, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:††††††††

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Public Hearing

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †† HB 3124

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Informational Meeting

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †† Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife (ODFW)

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †† Wild Fish Policy Presentation

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Public Hearing

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †† HB 3097

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speakerís exact words.For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 57, A

012

Chair Jenson

Calls the meeting to order at 1:15 p.m. opens an informational meeting.

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

024

Ed Bowles

Fish Division Director, Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife (ODFW). Submits (EXHIBIT A).

027

Chair Jenson

Closes the informational meeting and opens the public hearing on†††† HB 3124.

PUBLIC HEARING Ė HB 3124

032

Rep. Richard Devlin

District 24. Reads prepared testimony, (EXHBIT B). Presents concerns relating to the current level of contamination.

057

Rep. Devlin

Discusses the public hearings held during the1999 session. States there is evidence of public consumption of contaminated fish.

076

Rep. Tomei

Questions the fiscal impact.

077

Rep. Devlin

Responds approximately $300,000.

101

Rep. Smith

Notes the bill states pollutants and does not specify mercury.

103

Rep. Devlin

Responds that the reference to mercury is an example

121

Rep. Smith

Questions if this is a pilot program.

124

Rep. Devlin

Responds the goal is broader communication to high risk populations.

131

Chair Jenson

Notes that there is no definition of contaminated.

139

Rep. Devlin

Responds he will provide this information.

140

Rep. Wirth

Expresses the need for adequate information to be provided to the public.

174

Rep. Devlin

Concurs.States the focus is on mercury because one in ten women have elevated levels of mercury.

205

Chair Jenson

Questions what the governorís motivation was to not provide the funding.

211

Devlin

Responds that this would be entirely state funded with no federal match.

234

Thomas Johnson

Assistant Administrator, Environment and Health Systems, Department of Human Services. Summarizes prepared testimony (EXHIBIT C).

298

Johnson

Notes opposition to the bill because it is not in the governorís budget.

303

Chair Jenson

Questions how the contaminants enter into the food chain.

206

Johnson

Responds that first the contaminants are in the water then deposit in the sediment and transfer to plant life and on to fish.

341

Johnson

Comments the key is there are contaminants that cause human health effects.

358

Rep. Tomei

Questions the current public notification process.

360

Johnson

Responds the advisories are published in the fishing regulations published by ODFW.

381

Rep. Tomei

Questions if the advisories are available in other languages.

382

Johnson

Responds the advisories are in Spanish, Russian, and Chinese.

393

Rep. King

Questions how many of the advisories are the result of naturally occurring mercury.

TAPE 58, A

006

Johnson

Responds that information is not available.

014

Chair Jenson

Closes public hearing on HB 3124 and opens the informational meeting.

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

018

Ed Bowles

Reads prepared testimony. (EXHIBIT A).

130

Rep. Smith

Asks where the term wild fish comes from.

132

Bowles

Responds that the wild fish/hatchery fish definitions are from the Oregon Administrative Rules.

163

Rep. Kruse

Asks when will the new rules will be available.

180

Bowles

Explains that the process is a collaborative approach between the state, tribal, and federal governments.

241

Rep. Tomei

Asks who determines where the bar is and how is the determination made.

246

Bowles

Responds it will be based on the attributes of the fish.

343

Chair Jenson

Editorializes about who can afford to have the salmon de-listed.Requests additional information on adaptive management.

360

Bowles

Responds it is the implementation of a program with an established monitoring system that evaluates the effectiveness and then is adapted.

375

Chair Jenson

Closes the informational meeting and opens the public hearing on††††††††† HB 3097.

TAPE 57, B

PUBLIC HEARING Ė HB 3097

011

Sandy Thiele-Cirka

Administrator. Summarizes HB 3097.

028

Glen Stonebrink

Executive Director, Oregon Cattlemenís Association. Submits(EXHIBIT D). Testifies in support of the bill and explains the intent.

094

Chair Jenson

Questions if the bill applies to all dams.

099

Stonebrink

Responds the intent is to prohibit the state from removing dams without legislative approval.

110

Rep. Lee

Questions if this applies to dams over ten feet high.

113

Stonebrink

Responds affirmatively, as currently written.

130

Pete Test

Associate Director of the Oregon Farm Bureau Federation. Testifies in support of billís concept.

190

Rep. Leonard

Asks for clarification about the water that is not being used.

198

Test

Responds that 90% of the water that comes into the state flows to the ocean. Discusses the potential of building storage facilities.

228

Rep. Kruse

Notes that structures ten feet or above are engineered.

252

Stonebrink

Clarifies that any reservoir less than ten feet in height is exempt unless it was built illegally.

270

Jim Welsh

Representing Oregon Family Farm Association. Testifies in support of HB 3097.

309

Rep. Tomei

Questions why it would be necessary to convene the legislature rather that have the governor make the decision.

317

Welsh

Responds the consideration would be one person versus ninety, or one branch of government versus another branch of government.

331

Stonebrink

Responds that in 1999 the discussion of dam removal involved many people. Notes the preference is because the legislature is closer to the people.

345

Paul Cleary

Director, Water Resources Department (WRD). Submits (EXHIBIT E) and testifies in opposition to HB 3097. Notes the importance of response time and public safety.

TAPE 58, B

025

Cleary

Continues discussion regarding concerns and provides examples of artificial obstructions.

065

Rep. Lee

Comments on irrigation district dams that were voluntarily removed.

076

Rep. Tomei

Requests clarification on who is consulted for voluntary dam removal.

081

Rep. Lee

Responds that in the cases referred to the Bureau of Reclamation, the Districtís Board of Directors, and WRD are involved.

104

Kimberley Priestly

Representing WaterWatch. Reads prepared testimony (EXHIBIT F).

154

Chair Jenson

Questions the availability of technical expertise to the commission.

168

Priestly

Responds that the Water Resources Commission is charged with water policy and allocation in Oregon.

211

Chair Jenson

Summarizes the response issue and the intent of the bill. Closes the public hearing on HB 3097 and adjourns the meeting at 2:50 p.m.

 

Submitted By,†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Linda K. Gatto,††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Sandy Thiele-Cirka,

Committee Assistant†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† Committee Administrator

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A.     Wild Fish Policy, prepared testimony, Ed Bowles, 2 pp.

B.     HB 3124, prepared testimony, Rep. Richard Devlin, 1 p

C.     HB 3124, prepared testimony, Thomas Johnson, 2 pp.

D.    HB 3097, Governorís veto message (SB 987 1999), Glen Stonebrink, 1 p

E.     HB 3097, prepared testimony, Paul Cleary, 2 pp.

F.      HB 3097, prepared testimony, Kimberley Priestley, 1 p