HOUSE COMMITTEE ON STREAM RESTORATION
& SPECIES RECOVERY
April 20, 2001 Hearing
Room 343
2:00 P.M. Tapes 100 - 101
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Rep. Bob Jenson,
Chair
Rep. Jan Lee, Vice-Chair
Rep. Randy Leonard Vice-Chair
Rep. Tim Knopp
Rep. Jeff Kruse
Rep. Patti Smith
Rep. Al King
Rep. Carolyn Tomei
Rep. Kelley Wirth
STAFF PRESENT: Sandy Thiele-Cirka, Committee
Administrator
Linda K. Gatto, Committee Assistant
MEASURES HEARD:
HB 3854 - Public
Hearing
HB 3451 -Work Session
HB 3016 - Public Hearing
HJM 19 - Work Session
HB 3091 - Work Session
HB 3477 - Work Session
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 100, A |
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007 |
Vice-Chair Lee |
Calls the meeting to order
at 2:12 p.m. and open the public hearing on HB 3854. |
HB 3854 – PUBLIC HEARING
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012 |
Sandy Thiele-Cirka |
Administrator. Reviews the
status of HB 3854 and refers to the New Hampshire Clean Marine program, (EXHIBIT A). |
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020 |
Rep. Jeff Merkley |
HD 16. Announces there is
an effort being made to find a workable rebate program. Explains the concept. |
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064 |
Paul Donhefner |
Director, Oregon State
Marine Board. Testifies in support of
Rep. Merkley’s proposal. |
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074 |
Vice-Chair Lee |
Questions the work group
participants. |
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075 |
Rep. Merkley |
Identifies the,
Steelheaders, Oregon Environmental Council, Skippers for Clean Oregon Waters,
and other stakeholders. |
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090 |
Chair Jenson |
Closes the public hearing
on HB 3854 and opens the work session on HB 3451. |
HB 3451 – WORK SESSION |
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085 |
Thiele-Cirka |
Administrator. Summarizes
HB 3451 and the –9 amendments (EXHIBIT
B). |
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106 |
Rep. Elaine Hopson |
HD 2. Comments on (EXHBIT B). |
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119 |
Tim Josi |
Tillamook County Commissioner.
States the purpose of HB 3451 is to provide a long-term solution for
Tillamook County. |
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139 |
Rep. Wirth |
Questions the need for
additional study. |
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150 |
Josi |
Responds the goal
exception process provides proof that Goal 16 should be amended. |
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159 |
Rep. Hopson |
Comments that it adds
credibility and the opportunity to move forward. |
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172 |
Josi |
Notes that HB 3451 bridges
the gap between the goal exception process which addresses short term
problems and the amendment process that is two or three years ahead. |
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178 |
Rep. Wirth |
Requests clarification
that the goal for the exception process is different from the additional
study. |
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182 |
Rep. Hopson |
Concurs there is nothing
binding, the purpose is to begin discussions. |
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185 |
Josi |
Adds that there is no
connection with this bill to a goal exception. |
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193 |
Rep. Smith |
Asks if the Department of
Land Conservation and Development (DLCD) has responded to the time issue. |
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203 |
Dick Bennet |
Director, (DLCD). States
that a letter has been sent to the county board yesterday that responds to
questions about the exception process. |
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237 |
Rep. Wirth |
Questions how the study in
HB 3451 differs from what is analyzed during the exception process. |
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238 |
Bennett |
Responds the exception
process will address proposed extraction of aggregate in particular
places. The study would address the
question at large, as flood mitigation. |
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288 |
Rep. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3451 -9 amendments dated 4/10/01. |
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300 |
Chair Jenson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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302 |
Rep. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves HB 3451 to the floor with at DO PASS AS AMENDED
recommendation. |
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VOTE: 9-0 AYE: In a
roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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315 |
Chair Jenson |
The motion
CARRIES. |
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323 |
Rep. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves HB 3451 to the Consent Calendar. |
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329 |
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VOTE: 9-0 AYE: In a
roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Jenson |
The motion
CARRIES. |
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340 |
Chair Jenson |
Closes the work session on
HB 3451 and opens the public hearing on HB 3016. |
HB 3016 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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340 |
Thiele-Cirka |
Summarizes HB 3016,
submits prepared testimony from Rep. Betsy Close (EXHIBIT C). |
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353 |
Rep. Al King |
HD 44. Provides historical
background and explains the current condition of Diamond Lake and the impact
of the tui chub. |
TAPE 101, A |
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013 |
Rep. Wirth |
Questions if the federal
authorities will allow the use rotenone in Diamond Lake. |
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014 |
Rep. King |
Responds he is optimistic
that with the completion of the Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) there
will be a positive result. |
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022 |
Rep. Wirth |
Questions the completion
date of the EIS. |
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023 |
Rep. King |
Responds approximately
three years. |
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038 |
Rep. Knopp |
Questions if there was
legislation last session on the tui chub. |
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040 |
Rep. King |
Responds the
appropriations dedicated last session were not consumed. |
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054 |
Rep. Wirth |
Questions if this is
accommodated for in the governor’s budget. |
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051 |
Rep. King |
Responds that he believes
it is not. |
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067 |
Roy Elicker |
Legislative Coordinator,
Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife (ODFW). Reads prepared testimony, (EXHIBIT D). |
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107 |
Chair Jenson |
Questions if there is any
possibility of a trout fishery at Diamond Lake given present management. |
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113 |
Dave Loomis |
District Fisheries
Biologist, Southwest Region, ODFW. Details the number of trout fingerlings
stocked and notes that the survival rate with the tui chub has been reduced
from 70 percent to less than 1 percent.
Summarizes this method is non-productive. |
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156 |
Chair Jenson |
Clarifies that the option
would be to plant only larger fish. |
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151 |
Elicker |
Testifies that the EIS
needs to completed and opened for public comment. States that ODFW is planning options to the rotenone treatment
for a commission meeting next month. |
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178 |
Rep. King |
Comments on sustainable
populations. |
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196 |
Rep. Tomei |
Questions if there are
sport fish that would eat the tui chub. |
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200 |
Elicker |
Responds affirmatively. Explains there are other species being
considered but notes that as long as the tui chub is present in the lake,
attaining the large former catch quotas is not possible. |
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252 |
Rep. King |
States his primary
objective is to support the funding to continue the EIS process. |
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268 |
Rep. Kruse |
Concurs with Rep. King and
states the big issue is the United States Forest Service and the lengthy
process. |
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300 |
Rep. Tomei |
Questions if the
commission recommended a plan to stock a species that prey on the tui chub. |
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308 |
Rep. King |
Responds that this lake is
unique. Predicts this lake would not become the resort fishery it once was. |
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310 |
Rep. Kruse |
Notes that the long-term
expenditures would not result in the optimum condition being sought. Notes
that everything in the lake has been planted. |
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320 |
Rep. Wirth |
Questions the fiscal
impact of the bill. |
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329 |
Bennett |
Responds $200,000 has been
expended to get approximately 70 to 80 percent of the EIS drafted. It is estimated that another $50,000 is
needed to complete the draft EIS. After the public review, the final
statement best estimate is another $100,000 to $150,000 range and
approximately three years out. |
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356 |
Chair Jenson |
Closes the public hearing
on HB 3016. Directs ODFW to have answers regarding the use of predatory fish
and whether the management of a managed stock, restock fishery, or a
renewable fishery are options. Opens the work session on HJM 19. |
TAPE 100, B |
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HJM 19 – WORK SESSION |
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006 |
Thiele-Cirka |
Summarizes HJM 19 and the
–2 amendments. |
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020 |
Rep. Smith |
MOTION: Move HJM 19 – 2 amendments dated 4/16/01 BE ADOPTED. |
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023 |
Chair Jenson |
Hearing no objection, the motion carries. |
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024 |
Thiele-Cirka |
Summarizes the –1 dated
amendments dated 4/16/01. |
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040 |
Rep. Smith |
MOTION: Moves HJM 19 –1 amendments dated 4/16/01 BE ADOPTED. |
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045 |
Chair Jenson |
Hearing no objection, the motion carries. |
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047 |
Rep. Smith |
MOTION: Moves HJM 19 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED
recommendation. |
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050 |
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VOTE: 8-0 AYE: In a
roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 - Knopp |
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Chair Jenson |
The motion
CARRIES. |
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057 |
Rep. Smith |
MOTION: Moves HJM 19 be placed on the CONSENT
CALENDAR. |
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063 |
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VOTE: 8-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Knopp |
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Chair Jenson |
Hearing no
objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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066 |
Chair Jenson |
Closes the work session on
HJM 19 and opens the work session on
HB 3091. |
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068 |
Rep. Leonard |
Introduces HB 3091 -3
amendments (EXHIBIT F). |
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HB 3091 – WORK SESION |
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085 |
Paul Slyman |
Administrator, Department
of Environmental Quality (DEQ) Clean-Up Division. States support for the –3
amendments. |
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095 |
Rep. Leonard |
MOTION: Moves HB 3091 –3 amendments dated 4/20/01. |
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109 |
Chair Jenson |
Asks if Mr. Bergstein has
reviewed the –3 amendments. |
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111 |
Len Bergstein |
Representing Ross Island
Sand and Gravel. Responds affirmatively.
Submits proposed revisions to HB 3091 that are time and site specific,
(EXHIBIT G). |
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191 |
Rep. Leonard |
Responds that the proposed
amendment was submitted in the state of Washington the cost was five million
dollars to develop these standards. |
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218 |
Bergstein |
Explains his intentions
stating they need to know what Ross Island Sand & Gravel can have and
what will be excluded. |
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232 |
Jennifer Sutter |
Ross Island Project
Manager, Clean-up Program, Department of Environmental Quality, (DEQ).
Discusses evaluation of the criteria. |
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267 |
Rep. Lee |
Questions why the
Environmental Quality Commission, (EQC) needs to set up new administrative
rules instead of DEQ modifying the standards. |
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271 |
Slyman |
Responds they are advised
by legal counsel that when possible to adopt criteria in rules. |
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284 |
Rep. Lee |
Questions if there is
objection to the 90-day language. |
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313 |
Slyman |
States the objection is
that the clock starts as soon as the draft is submitted. |
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352 |
Keith Leavitt |
Port of Portland. States
that the –3 amendments and the proposed language in (EXHIBIT G) deleting lines 7 through 11 addresses their concerns.
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366 |
Jeannette Holman |
Assistant Director,
Division of State Lands, (DSL). States DSL has no concerns with the –3
amendments, notes that the Ross Island proposed amendments are directed to
DEQ. |
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400 |
Chair Jenson |
After a brief recess,
Chair states that HB 3091 will be held until Wednesday. Closes the work session on HB 3091 and
opens the work session on HB 3477. |
HB 3477 – WORK SESSION |
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432 |
Rep. Leonard |
Discusses the –2
amendments (EXHIBIT H). |
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434 |
Keith Leavitt |
Port of Portland. States support of the –2 amendments. |
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450 |
Rep. Leonard |
MOTION: Moves HB 3477 –2 amendments dated 4/20/01. |
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455 |
Chair Jenson |
Hearing no objection the motion carries. |
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461 |
Rep. Leonard |
MOTION: Moves HB 3477 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENED
recommendation. |
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463 |
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VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a
roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 2 - Knopp, Kruse |
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Chair Jenson |
The motion
CARRIES. Rep. Leonard
will lead discussion on the floor. |
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480 |
Chair Jenson |
Closes the work session on
HB 3477 and adjourns the meeting at
3:35 p.m.. |
Submitted By, Reviewed By,
Linda K. Gatto, Sandy Thiele-Cirka,
Committee Assistant Committee Administrator
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A.
HB 3854, New Hampshire Clean Marine Engine Initiative, Nina Deconcini, 20 pp.
B.
HB 3451, -9 amendments dated 4/10/91, staff, 1 p
C.
HB 3016, prepared testimony, Rep. Betsy Close, 1 p
D.
HB 3016, prepared testimony, Roy Elicker, 5 pp.
E.
HJM 19, -1 and -2 amendments dated 4/16/01, staff, 2 pp.
F.
HB 3091, -3 amendments dated 4/20/01, Rep. Randy Leonard, 1 p
G.
HB 3091, proposed revisions, Ross Island Sand & Gravel, 1 p
H.
HB 3477, fact sheet and –2 amendment dated 4/20/01, Rep. Randy Leonard, 2 p