HOUSE COMMITTEE ON STREAM RESTORATION

& SPECIES RECOVERY

 

May 9, 2001 Hearing Room E

1:00 P.M. Tapes  117 - 118

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:     

                                                Rep. Bob Jenson, Chair

Rep. Jan Lee, Vice-Chair

Rep. Randy Leonard Vice-Chair

Rep. Tim Knopp

Rep. Jeff Kruse

Rep. Patti Smith

                                                Rep. Carolyn Tomei

Rep. Kelley Wirth

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:            Rep. Al King

 

VISTING MEMBER:                 Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Sandy Thiele-Cirka, Committee Administrator

Linda K. Gatto, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES HEARD:

                                                SB 319 A – Public Hearing

                                                SB 869 A – Public Hearing & Work Session

                                                SB 870 A – Public Hearing & Work Session

                                                HB 3637 – Work Session

                                                HB 2184 – Work Session

                                                HB 3808 – Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

Tape 117, A

004

Chair Jenson

Calls the meeting to order at 1:05 p.m. as a subcommittee and opens a public hearing on SB 319 A.

SB 319 A – PUBLIC HEARING

030

Dick Bailey

Administrator, Water Rights Adjudication Division, Water Resource Department, (WRD). Submits report from the Hydroelectric Task Force and prepared testimony, (EXHIBIT A). Reads testimony in support of SB 319 A.

047

Bailey

Provides and overview of task force report and intent of SB 319 A.

070

Chair Jenson

Closes the subcommittee public hearing on SB 319 A and opens a subcommittee public hearing on SB 869 A.

SB 869 A – PUBLIC HEARING

087

Paul Cleary

Director, WRD. Submits prepared testimony, (EXHIBIT B).

095

Tom Byler

Legislative Coordinator, WRD. Reviews the main points of SB 869 A.

134

Rep. Lee

Questions water transfers.

135

Byler

Responds that the bill, as amended, eliminates the reference to the transfer statute.

143

Chair Jenson

Closes the public hearing on SB 869A and opens the public hearing on SB 870A.

Prepared testimony submitted by Robert Ramig; (EXHIBIT C); Peter Wells, (EXHIBIT D) and Antone Minthorn, (EXHIBIT E)

SB 870 A – PUBLIC HEARING

147

Cleary

WRD. Submits prepared testimony, (EXHIBIT F).  Provides an overview on SB 870 A.

179

Byler

Comments on City of Pendleton and the John Day area transfer interests.

210

Chair Jenson

Closes the public hearing on SB 870 A and opens a work session on HB 3637.

Prepared testimony submitted by Robert Ramig; (EXHIBIT G); Peter Wells; (EXHIBIT H) Antone Minthorn; (EXHIBIT I) and Pete Test, (EXHIBIT J)

HB 3637 – WORK SESSION

247

Sandy Thiele-Cirka

Explains HB 3637 –14 through –18 amendments (EXHIBIT K)

297

Rep. Wayne Krieger

House District 48. States this is a compromise bill. Discusses accountability, residency requirements, and public interests.

419

Rep. Krieger

Concludes testimony in support of the –18 amendments.

422

Rep. Tomei

Questions if each member would have a hunting or fishing license.

Tape 118, A

014

Rep. Krieger

Responds any member appointed and explains the residency requirement of the license.

010

Rep. Tomei

Comments that an individual with acceptable knowledge who does not have a hunting or fishing license.

024

Rep. Kruse

MOTION: Moves HB 3637 –18 amendment dated 5/9/01.

030

Rep. Tomei

Explains her opposition to the license requirement.

035

Rep. Krieger

Responds there are many people who are non-consumptive users of wildlife.

050

Rep. Wirth

States that due to the exclusion of the conservation member and the license requirement, she will vote no.

067

 

VOTE:  4-4

AYE:  4 - Knopp, Kruse, Smith P, Jenson

NAY:  4 - Lee, Leonard, Tomei, Wirth

EXCUSED:     1 – King

 

Chair Jenson

The motion FAILS.

077

Chair Jenson

Closes the work session on HB 3637 and opens the work session on HB 2184.

HB 2184 – WORK SESSION

089

Doug Riggs

Representing PacWest Communications and the Central Oregon Cities Organization. Introduces Mary Meloy

101

Mary Meloy

Director of Public Works, City of Redmond. Submits prepared testimony (EXHIBIT L) and states support for HB 2184.

160

Martha Pagel

Attorney, Schwabe, Williamson, & Wyatt. Submits prepared testimony that explains HB 2184 –4 amendments, (EXHIBIT M).

176

Pagel

Concludes testimony noting that the bill focuses on mitigation, the process of offering credits, and the banking concept.

195

Sen. Bev. Clarno

Senate District 27. Testifies in support of HB 2184.

207

Rep. Leonard

Questions if there are any opponents to the bill.

208

Pagel

Responds that she is not aware of any.

210

Riggs

Adds that there have been on going discussions and has been an inclusive process.

216

Rep. Wirth

Questions if this applies only to the Deshutes basin.

224

Pagel

Responds affirmatively.

261

Rep. Dingfelder

Questions the fiscal impact.

270

Pagel

Responds there will be workload for the department and to her knowledge there is no fiscal.

254

Rep. Dingfelder

Expresses concern about the backlog of water rights permits.

306

Cleary

Refers to the scenic waterways map, (EXHIBIT N). States the bill is banking tool.

380

Rep. Kruse

Questions if there is an assumption that every ground water source can be connected to surface water.

399

Cleary

Responds the connection is modeled out, existing statute provides WRD to consider evidence of different characteristics.

417

Rep. Kruse

Expresses concern about the connections being made.

Tape 117, B

009

Pagel

Responds to Rep. Kruse’s concern stating there was controversy in the Deshutes Basin relating to particular ground water use impacts that would result in a mitigation and refers to line seven of the -4 amendments. States WRD requests an emergency clause.

042

Brendan McCarthy

Deputy Legislative Counsel. Explains concerns about the –4 amendments.

085

Rep. Dingfelder

Questions if the interface between ground water and surface water is the burden of WRD.

099

Riggs

Responds it is a burden under existing statute, this proposal does not change any provision of law.

129

Rep. Kruse

Questions if the reference to ORS 39835 should be removed.

137

McCarthy

Responds affirmatively. Notes the concerns should be addressed instead of referencing a statute.

189

Pagel

Explains the language was inserted at the request of WaterWatch because they don’t want mitigation credits to limit protection for the scenic waterways. Adds that subsection nine refers to the potential interference.

200

Riggs

Continues discussion on potential interference.

311

Rep. Dingfelder

Questions if mitigation banks for groundwater has been attempted in other western states.

322

Riggs

Responds there are water banks in the west. Mitigating for the impacts of groundwater development on surface water rights is occurring in Washington state. Notes he has no information relating to mitigation credit banking.

360

Chair Jenson

Closes the work session on HB 2184 and opens the work session on HB 3808.

HB 3808 – WORK SESSION

382

Glen Stonebrink

Oregon Cattlemen’s Association. Submits and reviews (EXHIBIT O).

Tape 118, B

 

Chair Jenson

Closes the work session on HB 3808 and opens the work session on  SB 870A.

SB 870A – WORK SESSION

 

056

Rep. Kruse

MOTION:  Moves SB  870A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

061

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  3 - Smith, King, Tomei

 

Chair Jenson

The motion CARRIES.

070

Rep. Kruse

MOTION:  Moves SB 870A be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  3 - Smith, King, Tomei

 

Chair Jenson

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

 

Chair Jenson

Closes the work session on SB 870A and opens the work session on  SB 869A.

SB 869 A – WORK SESSION

072

Rep. Kruse

MOTION:  Moves SB 869A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

092

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  2 - Smith, King

 

Chair Jenson

The motion CARRIES.

094

Rep. Kruse

MOTION:  Moves SB 869A be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR.

095

 

VOTE:  7-0

EXCUSED:  2 - Smith, King

 

Chair Jenson

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

095

Chair Jenson

Closes the work session on SB 869A and adjourns the meeting at    2:35 p.m.

 

Submitted By,                        Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Linda K. Gatto,                        Sandy Thiele-Cirka,

Committee Assistant                        Committee Administrator

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A.     SB 319A, Hydroelectric Task Force and prepared testimony, Dick Bailey, 42 pp.

B.     SB 869 A, prepared testimony, Paul R. Cleary, 3 pp.

C.     SB 869 A, prepared testimony, Mayor Robert Ramig, 1 p

D.    SB 869 A, prepared testimony, Peter Wells, 1 p

E.     SB 869 A, prepared testimony, Chair Antone Minthorn,

F.      SB 870 A, prepared testimony, Paul R. Cleary, 3 pp.

G.    SB 870 A, prepared testimony, Mayor Robert Ramig, 1 p

H.    SB 870 A, prepared testimony, Peter Wells, 1 p

I.       SB 870 A, prepared testimony, Chair Antone Minthorn,

J.      SB 870 A, prepared testimony, Pete Test, 1 p

K.    HB 3637, -14 amendments dated 5/4/01, -15 amendments dated 5/4/01, -16 amendments dated 5/4/01, -17 amendments dated 5/4/01, -18 amendments dated 5/9/01, staff, 20 pp. 

L.     HB 2184, prepared testimony, Mary Meloy, 1 p

M.  HB 2184, prepared testimony and –4 amendments dated 5/09/01, Martha O. Pagel, 6 pp. 

N.    HB 2184, map, Paul Cleary, 1 p

O.    HB 3808, prepared testimony, Glen Stonebrink, 5 pp.-