CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON HB 2630
June 11, 2001 Hearing
Room
4:00 PM Tape
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MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Bill Witt, Chair
Rep. Alan Brown
Rep. Richard Devlin
Sen. Jason Atkinson
Sen. Avel Gordly
Sen. Steve Harper
STAFF PRESENT: Matt Wingard, Committee
Administrator
Patrick Brennan, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 2630-B Work Session
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Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
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Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 1, A |
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004 |
Chair Chair Witt |
Calls the committee to
order at 4:10 p.m. Opens a work session on
HB 2630-B. |
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HB 2630-B WORK SESSION |
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005 |
Matt Wingard |
Committee
Administrator. Gives a brief
description of the bill. Indicates
that the –B4 amendments (EXHIBIT A)
have been submitted for the committee’s consideration. |
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020 |
Steve Vincent |
Avista Utilities. Testifies in support of HB 2630-B and
submits informational materials (EXHIBIT
B). States that wholesale natural
gas prices have been relatively volatile for the past 9 months. Explains the relationship between
wholesale natural gas prices and the price Avista and other utilities charge
to consumers. Indicates that the
Public Utilities Commission (PUC) adjusts rates annually, but that rate
increases are limited to three percent.
States that the cap has resulted in Avista facing an accrued debt that
could take as long as 20 years to pay off.
Says HB 2630-B will allow greater rate increases in cases where they
are justified. Assures that the
bill’s passage will not result in massive rate increases, as utilities need
to guard against alienating their customer base. |
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066 |
Chair Witt |
Requests an explanation as
to how a company such as Avista goes about recouping costs in cases when
wholesale natural gas prices rise sharply in a short period of time. |
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072 |
Vincent |
Describes the effect that
a doubling of the wholesale price of natural gas could have on Avista. Says that losses accrued during a
short-term rise in prices can usually be worked off later during the year,
when prices drop back down due to reduced demand. Adds that the annual rate review can help mitigate some of the
accumulated debt by increasing rates, however, a three-percent increase would
require more than ten years to repay a debt of $20 million, which Avista
currently faces. Asks that Avista and
other utility companies be allowed to raise their rates higher to allow them
to recoup costs more quickly. |
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097 |
Chair Witt |
Requests confirmation that
in cases where unusually large debts are being paid off the interest from the
deferred debt is being passed on to consumers. |
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103 |
Vincent |
Confirms the accuracy of
the chair’s analysis. Explains that
in the current energy market it is now necessary to borrow money from the
bank to purchase the product for delivery to customers. |
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105 |
Chair Witt |
Concludes that HB 2630-B
would help utilities recoup costs without going into long-term deferral. |
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107 |
Vincent |
Answers that the bill
would shorten the period of deferral.
Clarifies that the only costs that are affected by the measure are
wholesale natural gas prices and transportation costs. Mentions that the PUC can refuse to grant
the requested rate increase, or require a refund should the rate increase
turn out to be unwarranted. Assures
that there are sufficient customer protections to prevent abuse. |
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118 |
Kevin Lynch |
PacifiCorp. Testifies in support of HB 2630-B. Refers to section 4 of the bill, which
brings statutory requirements up to date and addresses a particular issue
related to Klamath Falls. Remarks
that electricity is treated differently than natural gas with regard to rate
setting. Mentions that there is no
opposition to the bill among its stakeholders. Explains that deferred accounting is a way to pass debt along
during periods between rate increases. States that Oregon’s limit on rate
increases of three percent of gross annual revenues is unique among Western
states. Comments that PacifiCorp has
recently needed to purchase electricity on the open market to meet consumer
demand, which has required the company to expend an enormous amount of
money. Indicates that the measure
would raise the cap from three percent to six percent |
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173 |
Lynch |
Reiterates that customers
could be given refunds if subsequent PUC review determines the rate increases
were unwarranted. |
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184 |
Chair Witt |
Requests an estimate as to
what percentage of the retail price of power reflects the cost of power
generation or purchase. |
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186 |
Lynch |
Replies that the percentage
for residential consumers is between 25-40 percent, while the commercial rate
is much higher due to the cost of commercial transmission requirements. |
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193 |
Chair Witt |
Asks if Mr. Vincent or Mr.
Lynch has a position regarding the –B4 amendments. |
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195 |
Lynch |
Indicates PacifiCorp has
no position regarding the –B4 amendments. |
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196 |
Vincent |
Replies that the impact to
customers of the –B4 amendments would be approximately $.18/month. Mentions that there has been some interest
within Avista regarding such a provision but that the company has not chosen
to pursue it at this time. Supports
the –B4 amendments only if their adoption does not threaten the passage of
the bill. |
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211 |
Gary Conkling |
Business Customer
Coalition. Testifies in support of HB
2630-B. States that members of the
coalition participated in the work group on the bill, focusing primarily on
deferred accounting for electric utilities.
States that the final compromise achieves a balance through an
alternative rate setting tool.
Mentions that there are additional requirements that accompany any
request to raise rates above three percent of gross annual revenues. |
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239 |
Gary Bauer |
Northwest Natural
Gas. Testifies in support of HB
2630-B. Notes that the –B4 amendments
insert HB 3009 into the bill, which is currently under consideration in the
Senate Committee on Rules and Redistricting.
Describes the –B4 amendments, which authorizes the PUC to allow
natural gas utilities to structure rates to provide assistance to low-income
consumers. Clarifies that the PUC
needs the legislative authority to move forward with such a program, adding
that the bill does not mandate that it do so. Notes that a cap of .5 percent of gross residential customer
revenues is set by the amendments.
Assures that the program would be open to public scrutiny and
participation. |
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287 |
Chair Witt |
Summarizes that under the
provisions of the amendments the utility would need to make the request and
receive PUC approval. Compares the
–B4 amendments to similar programs for electrical utilities. |
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295 |
Bauer |
Answers affirmatively. |
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298 |
Jeff Bissonette |
Citizens Utility Board
(CUB) of Oregon. Testifies to a
position of neutrality regarding HB 2630-B and in support of the –B4
amendments. States that the
B-engrossed bill has been amended to address some of CUB’s concerns. Mentions that CUB has supported HB 3009
and believes it to be needed by customers of natural gas utilities. |
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333 |
Chair Witt |
Requests confirmation that
the –B4 amendments achieve the same results as does HB 3009. |
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336 |
Bissonette |
Replies affirmatively,
concluding that there would be no need to take further action on HB 3009
should the committee adopt the –B4 amendments and repass the bill. |
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345 |
Sen. Gordly |
MOTION: Moves HB 2630-B to the floor with the
recommendation that the House CONCUR in Senate amendments dated 5/15/01 and
that the bill be FURTHER AMENDED by the –B4 amendments dated 6/8/01 and the
measure be REPASSED. |
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350 |
Sen. Harper |
Mentions that the Senate
Committee on Rules and Redistricting, of which he is the chair, has HB 3009
under consideration. Takes exception
to efforts to amend HB 3009 into HB 2630-B and indicates he will oppose the
motion. |
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362 |
Sen. Gordly |
Asks Sen. Harper if it is
his intention to take action on HB 3009. |
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365 |
Sen. Harper |
Responds that he intends
to continue reviewing HB 3009, adding that it has some positive aspects as
well as some negative ones. |
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370 |
Chair Witt |
Opines that the Senate
amendments to HB 2630 have no more relevance to the original bill than do the
–B4 amendments. |
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382 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Indicates he will not
support the motion. |
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VOTE: 3-3 AYE: 3 - Rep. Brown, Sen. Gordly,
Rep. Witt NAY: 3 - Sen. Atkinson, Rep. Devlin,
Sen. Harper |
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Chair Witt |
The motion
Fails. |
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400 |
Chair Witt |
Indicates that an
additional work session will be held on 6-19-01 and adjourns the meeting at
4:50 p.m. |
Submitted By, Reviewed By,
Patrick Brennan, Matt Wingard,
Committee Assistant Committee Administrator
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 2630-B, -B4 amendments, Rep. Bill Witt, 1 p.
B
– HB 2630-B, informational materials, Steve Vincent, 10 pp.