SENATE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

 

 

January 26, 2001                                                                                                     Hearing Room B

1:00 PM                                                                                                                       Tapes  13 - 15

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Bill Fisher, Chair

Sen. Gary George

Sen. Frank Shields

Sen. Ken Messerle

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:          Sen. Margaret Carter, Vice-Chair

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Rick Berkobien, Administrator

Andrew Morris, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES HEARD:                       SB 288 Public Hearing

                                                SB 385 Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 431 Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 410 Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 409 Public Hearing and Work Session

                                               

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 13, A

004

Chair Fisher

Calls meeting to order at 1:07 p.m. and opens a public hearing on      SB 288.

SB 288 PUBLIC HEARING

007

Rick Berkobien

Administrator.  Explains SB 288 to the committee.

041

Charles Simpson

Board Member, Oregon Board of Chiropractic Examiners.  Presents testimony in support of SB 288 (EXHIBIT A).  States the bill will assist with public protection and deal with housekeeping issues.

066

Sen. George

Asks about unlicensed practice. 

067

Simpson

Responds by explaining unlicensed practice.  States the concern is over people who set up practices without being licensed.

080

Sen. George

Asks about an unlicensed person providing free chiropractic services.

088

Dave McTeague

Executive Director, Oregon Board of Chiropractic Examiners.  Responds by relating recent experiences.  States the board would send communication to the unlicensed person explaining concerns.

111

Simpson

Relates a possible experience.  States the bill will allow the board to pursue sanctions against a licensee. 

143

Sen. Messerle

Asks about chiropractors traveling with professional sports teams and reciprocity with other states.

152

McTeague

Responds by explaining the procedure.

159

Chair Fisher

Comments on the language of the bill.  Asks what happens to a person who has been unlicensed for over a year.

178

McTeague

Responds that it is an unusual situation.  States that a person would have to reapply.  Discusses the application process.

205

Chair Fisher

Discusses the proposed language.  Closes the public hearing on SB 288 and opens a public hearing on SB 385.

SB 385 PUBLIC HEARING

249

Barry Kast

Administrator, Mental Health Developmentally Disabled Services Division (MHDDSD).  Presents testimony in support of SB 385 (EXHIBIT B).  Gives background of SB 385.  Comments on native tribes that wish to be involved in providing mental health services to members.

301

Sen. Shields

Asks why the original restriction was in place.

306

Kast

Responds it was to keep mental health services controlled by the counties.

324

Chair Fisher

Asks if any groups have problems with the bill.

333

Kast

Responds there are not any objections to the concept in the bill.  Comments on a cooperative effort of parties involved.

347

Sen. Messerle

Asks about tribes offering services to non-tribal members.

357

Kast

Responds it would be okay as long public funds are not involved. 

374

Sen. Messerle

Comments on mental health treatment in rural areas.

384

Kast

Explains federal policy to the committee.

410

Justin Martin

Confederated Tribes of Grande Ronde.  Presents testimony in support of SB 385 (EXHIBIT C).  Explains the tribe’s services.  States there is agreement on the bill.

TAPE 14, A

009

Sen. George

Asks about servicing non-tribal members.

015

Anthony Gagliardo

Social Services Director, Grand Ronde.  Responds if the person is related to a tribal member, then they can receive services from the tribe.

023

Sen. Shields

Asks if tribal money is used to leverage federal funds.

037

Gagliardo

Responds that general funds are used only to match federal funds.

050

Michael Mason

Representing Warm Springs Tribe.  Testifies in support in of SB 385.  States the legislature has been welcoming to native tribes.  Comments on federal funding for reservation services. 

081

William LaRoque

Health General Manager, Klamath Tribes.  Testifies on SB 385.  Comments on the service areas of Klamath Tribes.  States that many tribe members do not have the transportation resources to reach services. 

110

Chair Fisher

Explains the bill language. 

120

Berkobien

Asks how many tribes will be affected by the change in statute.

137

Richard Ausvido

Responds by explaining which tribes would be affected.

163

Karen Quigley

Executive Director, Commission on Indian Services.  Continues describing the tribes that would be affected.

186

Ausvido

States the statute changes would allow for all of the federally recognized tribes in the state to be included.

198

Sen. Shields

Asks about mental health services in rural Oregon.

209

Kast

Explains mental health services in Lake County.  States that distance affects services in rural Oregon.  Comments on work being done with Klamath County. 

242

Sen. Shields

Asks about having countywide service agreements.

257

Kast

State he is unsure if that could happen.  States the bill does not ask for any money, so existing money will need to be used.  Comments on services in Klamath Falls.  Discusses rural health issues.

314

LaRoque

Comments on federal funding that is used to provide services.  Explains issues that are facing the Klamath Tribe.

354

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 385 and opens a work session on      SB 385.

SB 385 WORK SESSION

357

Sen. Shields

MOTION:  Moves SB 385 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:               4 - George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 - Carter

369

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. SHIELDS will lead discussion on the floor.

373

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 385 and opens a public hearing on      SB 431.

SB 431 PUBLIC HEARING

378

Berkobien

Explains SB 431 and the –1 amendments (EXHIBIT D) to the committee.

TAPE 13, B

000

Elizabeth Buys

State Board of Clinical Social Workers.  Presents testimony in support of SB 431 (EXHIBIT E).  Explains the benefits of the bill. 

034

Josh Alpert

National Association of Social Workers.  Presents testimony in support of SB 431 (EXHIBIT F).

045

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 431 and opens a work session on      SB 431.

SB 431 WORK SESSION

062

Sen. Shields

Comments on the Department of Administrative Services practices. 

077

Sen. Shields

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 431-1 amendments dated 01/25/01.

 

 

VOTE:  3-0

AYE:               3 - Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     2 - Carter, George

083

Chair Fisher

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

 

 

 

107

Sen. Shields

MOTION:  Moves SB 431 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:               4 – George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 – Carter

116

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. FISHER will lead discussion on the floor.

122

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 431 and opens a public hearing on      SB 410.

SB 410 PUBLIC HEARING

128

Berkobien

Explains SB 410 and the –1 amendments (EXHIBIT G) to the committee.

160

Carol Fleming

Board of Licensed Professional Counselors and Therapists.  Presents testimony in support of SB 410 (EXHIBIT H).  States the proposed changes would help the board to be more cost effective.  Summarizes current law and explains the proposed changes.

280

Fleming

Explains the process of raising fees.

288

Chair Fisher

Comments on raising fees.

307

Fleming

States the board has notified all involved parties about the bill and there is wide support of it.  States the fiscal impact will be minimal. 

342

Sen. Messerle

Asks if providers may be reluctant to put materials in files.

357

Fleming

Responds that is a possibility, but it is uncommon. 

366

Sen. Messerle

Asks about legal requirements.

368

Fleming

Responds the code of ethics is very clear on the requirements.

382

Nita Werner

Board Member.  Testifies in support of SB 410.

397

Pamela Lyons-Nelson

Board Members, Oregon Mental Health Counselors Alliance.  Testifies in support of SB 410.  Comments on the importance of the bill. 

431

Chair Fisher

Comments on the work of the Board of Counselors and Therapists.

TAPE 14, B

000

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 410 and opens a work session on      SB 410.

SB 410 WORK SESSION

 

006

 

Sen. Messerle

 

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 410-1 amendments dated 01/25/01.

 

 

VOTE:  3-0

AYE:               3 – Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     2 – Carter, George

 

Chair Fisher

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

014

Sen. Messerle

MOTION:  Moves SB 410 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:               4 – George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 – Carter

020

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. MESSERLE will lead discussion on the floor.

028

Chair fisher

Closes the work session on SB 410 and opens a public hearing on      SB 409.

SB 409 PUBLIC HEARING

031

Berkobien

Explains SB 409 to the committee.

048

Fleming

Presents testimony in support of SB 409 (EXHIBIT I).  Gives a background of SB 409.  States that by requiring intern registration, it would further develop the standards of practice.  States that a lot of other states have methods to monitor interns in licensing programs.  Relates that the bill has widespread support.

105

Chair Fisher

Comments on licensure. 

128

Sen. Messerle

Asks about the lack of statute requiring licensure.

135

Fleming

States that it is possible to practice without licensure.

143

Lyons-Nelson

Testifies in support of SB 409.  Explains her work supervising interns.  Comments on practicing without licensure.  States there is a strong incentive for people to be licensed practitioners. 

177

Chair Fisher

Comments on the importance of being licensed.

184

Sen. Shields

Discusses pastoral counseling. 

203

Werner

States support of SB 409.

215

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 409 and opens a work session on      SB 409.

SB 409 WORK SESSION

218

Sen. George

MOTION:  Moves SB 409 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:               4 – George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 – Carter

228

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

GEORGE will lead discussion on the floor.

243

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session and adjourns the meeting at 2:50 p.m.

 

Submitted By,                                                                           Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Andrew Morris,                                                                        Rick Berkobien,

Committee Assistant                                                                 Administrator

 

 

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 288, Written testimony, Charles Simpson, 3 pp.

B  - SB 385, Written testimony, Barry Kast, 1 p.

C – SB 385, Written testimony, Justin Martin, 3 pp.

D – SB 431, -1 Amendments, Staff, 1 p.

E – SB 431, Written testimony, Elizabeth Buys, 1 p.

F – SB 431, Written testimony, Josh Alpert, 1 p.

G – SB 410, -1 Amendments, Staff, 1 p.

H – SB 410, Written testimony, Carol Fleming, 4 pp.

I – SB 409, Written testimony, Carol Fleming, 1 p.