SENATE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

 

 

February 12, 2001                                                                                                   Hearing Room B

1:00 PM                                                                                                                        Tapes 25 - 27

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Bill Fisher, Chair

Sen. Margaret Carter, Vice-Chair

Sen. Gary George

Sen. Frank Shields

Sen. Ken Messerle

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Rick Berkobien, Administrator

Andrew Morris, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE HEARD:             SB 404 Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 408 Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 210 Public Hearing

                                                Introduction of Committee Bills

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 25, A

004

Chair Fisher

Calls meeting to order at 1:10 p.m. and opens a public hearing on      SB 404.

SB 404 PUBLIC HEARING

006

Rick Berkobien

Administrator.  Explains SB 404 to the committee. 

024

David Plunkett

Director, Oregon Board of Optometry.  Presents testimony in support of SB 404 (EXHIBIT A).  Gives the background of SB 404.  Relates a possible scenario.  Comments on investigating licensees. 

057

Joan Miller

President, Oregon Board of Optometry.  Testifies in support of SB 404.  Comments on the importance of being able to complete investigations, whether or not the optometrist relinquishes their license.

067

Chair Fisher

Asks about public access to information relating to the investigations.

070

Miller

Responds all the information on an investigation is public record and disseminated throughout the country and Canada.  Talks about the importance of a permanent record.

083

Chair Fisher

Asks about optometrists that move to another state and how the investigation would affect them.

090

Miller

Responds if the bill is passed, then the investigation could be completed and the findings would be disseminated.

095

Chair Fisher

Asks about reciprocity with other states.

100

Miller

Responds Oregon does not have reciprocity with other states.  Explains licensing procedures for Oregon.  Discusses hearings and judgements. 

128

Plunkett

Clarifies the investigation process.

133

Sen. George

Comments on the authority being requested in SB 404.  Asks how many investigations were not completed because of current law.

146

Miller

Responds that there have been two cases in the last nine years where the investigation could not be completed. 

166

Sen. Carter

Asks about violations.

179

Miller

Responds that if a violation occurs, licenses can be suspended or revoked. 

188

Sen. Carter

Comments on the need for SB 404.

195

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 404 and opens a work session on      SB 404.

SB 404 WORK SESSION

196

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves SB 404 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0

AYE:               5 - Carter, George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

206

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. MESSERLE will lead discussion on the floor.

210

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 404 and opens a public hearing on      SB 408.

SB 408 PUBLIC HEARING

214

Berkobien

Explains SB 408 to the committee. 

222

Miller

Testifies in support of SB 408.  States the bill resolves a fairness issue for optometrists.  Comments on reciprocity.  Explains licensure requirements for Oregon.  States the legislation allows for more people to be licensed in Oregon. 

267

Sen. Carter

Asks if the bill would be used for recruitment.

270

Miller

Responds no.  Relates a situation. 

296

Sen. Carter

Asks about including reciprocity in the bill.

305

Miller

Responds by explaining the specifics of SB 408. 

317

Sen. Carter

Asks how other state boards could learn of problems with a local licensee.

327

Miller

Responds that every state board in the nation and Canada is notified.

334

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 408 and opens a work session on      SB 408.

SB 408 WORK SESSION

337

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves SB 408 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0

AYE:               5 - Carter, George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

359

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. SHIELDS will lead discussion on the floor.

363

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 408 and opens a public hearing on      SB 210.

SB 210 PUBLIC HEARING

368

Berkobien

Explains SB 210 to the committee.  Comments on the –1 amendments.

406

Grover Simmons

Adult Care Providers Association.  Presents testimony in support of SB 210 (EXHIBIT B).  Discusses complaints against adult foster homes.

TAPE 26, A

000

Simmons

Comments on intentionally filing false complaints.  Discusses other bills dealing with immunities before the legislature this session.  Explains the –1 amendment.  States that Senior Disabled Services Division (SDSD) has another amendment request that has been agreed on by involved parties. 

067

Earlene Berry

Adult Foster Home Provider, President Adult Care Providers Association.  Testifies in support of SB 210 (EXHIBIT C).  Comments on the sources and motives of complaints.  States that due process is important.  Relates a personal experience. 

152

Berry

States that providers need recourse against people intentionally filing false complaints. 

164

David Brandt

Adult Foster Care Provider.  Testifies in support of SB 210.  Comments on his business.  Relates a personal experience.  States there is a lack of resolution.  States that providers are vulnerable to blackmail from previous employees.   

243

Sen. Shields

States support for having timely resolution to complaints.

274

Brandt

Comments on the motives of complaints. 

311

Sen. Shields

Asks about personal protection versus intimidation.

327

Brandt

Responds that retaliation is not allowed.  Comments on the protection of residential rights. 

355

Sen. Shields

States concerns over the possibility of intimidation.

384

Berry

States a majority of complaints come from employees that have been fired.

TAPE 25, B

000

Faye Marie

Adult Foster Care Provider.  Testifies in support of SB 210    (EXHIBIT D).  Relates a personal experience.  Comments on false claims filed against her business.  Discusses accountability. 

071

Christine Niemeyer

Adult Foster Care Worker.  Testifies in support of SB 210.  Comments on the emotional impact of false complaints.  Discusses accountability of people making complaints.  Relates a personal experience. 

150

Niemeyer

Comments on the complaint process.  Discusses substantiation of complaints. 

203

Gary Lane

Adult Foster Care Provider.  Testifies in support of SB 210   (EXHIBIT E).  Relates a personal experience.  Comments on complaints made against his business.  Discusses his personal fiscal impact due to complaints.  Comments on residents behaviors. 

340

Cindy Hannum

Manager, Long Term Quality Care, SDSD.  Testifies on SB 210.  Proposes language changes that allow for people to file complaints anonymously.

378

Sen. Messerle

Asks for clarification on anonymously filing complaints.

390

Hannum

Responds by explaining current law.  Relates an example. 

TAPE 26, B

010

Sen. Messerle

Comments on the certification process. 

017

Sen. Carter

Asks how the department defends providers who have problems with neighborhoods.

027

Hannum

Responds by explaining current statute.  Comments on the investigation process. 

043

Sen. Carter

Asks about the time frame for investigation.

050

Hannum

Responds the law requires that investigations are completed within 60 days, but that is not always possible.  States that it can take up to six months for resolution.

063

Sen. Carter

Comments on the current process.  Asks how ensuring expediency can protect providers. 

82

Hannum

Comments on the volume of complaints.  States that people make complaints on perceptions.  States that SDSD supports the foster home industry. 

115

Sen. Shields

Asks who would determine if someone knowingly filed a false complaint. 

131

Hannum

Responds that SDSD is not an arbitrator.  States that SDSD could be involved in a civil case. 

150

Sen. Messerle

Asks how many complaints are filed per year.

156

Hannum

Responds there are about 6,000 complaints are filed each year. 

164

Sen. Messerle

Comments on the volume of complaints.

170

Sen. George

Comments on the volume of complaints.

179

Hannum

Describes substantiated versus unsubstantiated. 

194

Sen. George

Asks how many providers there are in the state.

198

Hannum

Responds there are over 2,000 foster homes in the state.

204

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 210 and opens a work session to introduce committee bills

INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE BILLS

209

Berkobien

Explains LC 2315 to the committee. 

225

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves LC 2476 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0

AYE:               5 - Carter, George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

226

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

228

Berkobien

Explains LC 2476 to the committee. 

259

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves LC 2476 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0

AYE:               5 - Carter, George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

260

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

261

Berkobien

Explains LC 2285 to the committee. 

292

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves LC 2285 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0

AYE:               5 - Carter, George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

293

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

294

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session and reopens the public hearing on SB 210. 

SB 210 PUBLIC HEARING

352

Joan Gallelgly

Provider.  Testifies in support of SB 210 (EXHIBIT F).  Comments on providers that feel intimidated and harassed during the investigation process. 

TAPE 27, A

000

Virgil Dunbar

Provider.  Testifies in support of SB 210.  Comments on the complaint process.  Describes his background.

037

Daniela Fora

Provider.  Testifies in support of SB 210 (EXHIBIT G).  States there is no recourse for providers after false complaints are made.  Relates a complaint that was made in bad faith against her business.  Comments on the inequalities in the adult foster home business.  Relates a personal experience. 

163

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 210 and adjourns the meeting at     3:13 p.m.

 

Submitted By,                                                                           Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Andrew Morris,                                                                        Rick Berkobien,

Committee Assistant                                                                 Administrator

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 404, Written testimony, David Plunkett, 1 p.

B – SB 210, Written testimony, Grover Simmons, 2 pp.

C – SB 210, Submitted letters, Earlene Berry, 20 pp.

D – SB 210, Submitted testimony, Faye Marie, 11 pp.

E – SB 210, Written testimony, Gary Lane, 1 p.

F – SB 210, Written testimony, 5 pp.

G – SB 210, Copy of complaint and findings, Daniela For a, 12 pp.