SENATE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

 

 

March 5, 2001                                                                                                         Hearing Room B

1:00 PM                                                                                                                         Tape 42 - 43

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Bill Fisher, Chair

Sen. Margaret Carter, Vice-Chair

Sen. Gary George

Sen. Frank Shields

Sen. Ken Messerle

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Rick Berkobien, Administrator

Andrew Morris, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES HEARD:                       SB 786 Public Hearing

                                                SB 210 Public Hearing

                                                SB 413 Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 42, A

004

Chair Fisher

Calls meeting to order at 1:08 p.m. and opens a public hearing on       SB 786.

SB 786 PUBLIC HEARING

007

Rick Berkobien

Administrator.  Explains SB 786 to the committee.

025

Steve Marks

Senior Policy Advisor, Governor’s office.  Testifies in support of      SB 786 (EXHIBIT A).  Explains the background of including minorities on health and licensing boards.  Gives the history of the Racial and Ethnic Health Task Force assembled by the governor.  Describes the recommendations of the task force.

116

Sen. Avel Gordly

Senate District 10, Co-Chair Racial and Ethnic Health Task Force.  Reads testimony in Support of SB 786 (EXHIBIT B).  Comments on the representation of minorities.  Relates statistical data.  Describes existing disparities.  

222

Sen. Gordly

Describes the make-up of the task force.  Comments on data collection.  Reviews SB’s 784 through 792. 

310

Sen. Gordly

Comments on current practices.  States the bill could be enacted using existing funds. 

380

Chair Fisher

Enters letters in opposition to SB 786 (EXHIBIT I).

390

Rep. Jo Ann Bowman

House District 19.  Testifies in support of SB 786 (EXHIBIT C).  Explains the background of the Racial and Ethnic Health Task Force.  Explains the agenda of the task force.  Discusses federal grants. 

TAPE 43, A

000

Rep. Bowman

Explains the criteria for deciding which issues to pursue.  Comments on the fiscal impact of SB 786. 

054

Sen. Carter

Comments on the fiscal impact statement of SB 786.

082

Sen. Messerle

Discusses problems facing rural areas. 

104

Sen. Gordly

Comments on under served communities in Oregon. 

124

Sen. Carter

Explains past legislation. 

139

Sen. George

Comments on the budgets for all the health boards.

160

Ruby Haughton

Legislative Director for CareOregon, Racial and Ethnic Health Task Force member.  Reads testimony in support of SB 786 (EXHIBIT D).  Explains how information was compiled for the task force.  Gives statistical data. 

245

Sharon Hill

Legislative Aide, Sen. Gordly.  Testifies in support of SB 786.  Discusses under served areas.  States the Board of Nursing is the only board that has kept ethnic data.  Comments on the task force package.  

328

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 786 and opens a public hearing on    SB 210.

SB 210 PUBLIC HEARING

340

Berkobien

Explains SB 210 and the proposed amendments. 

382

David Nebel

Oregon Law Center, Quality Long Term Care.  Testifies in opposition to SB 210 (EXHIBIT E).  Disputes the need for SB 210.  States the bill could discourage people from making legitimate complaints against adult foster homes. 

TAPE 42, B

029

May Dasch

Oregon Alzheimer’s Association.  Testifies in opposition to SB 210 (EXHIBIT F).  Comments on the fear of retaliation against residents by providers. 

057

Chair Fisher

Asks why the provider should be less liable than the clients should.

064

Dasch

Responds it is hard to tell what happens behind closed doors.  States the bill would allow for intimidation.  Comments on intentionally filling false complaints. 

084

Chair Fisher

Comments on filling false complaints.

088

Dasch

States that false complaints are a rarity. 

095

Chair Fisher

States that providers and clients should be equally responsible.

101

Sen. Carter

Asks why the new language would threaten state agencies.

108

Nebel

Responds that providers could use the bill to their advantage.

130

Sen. Carter

Asks why people are concerned.

133

Nebel

Responds that clients are very vulnerable.  States that providers can assert their rights through current law. 

160

Chair Fisher

Comments on the court costs. 

171

Nebel

States the bill does not help with fairness. 

184

Chair Fisher

Discusses good faith. 

195

Nebel

Comments on current law.  Refers to page two line nine of SB 210. 

224

Chair Fisher

Enters a letter from DHS into the record (EXHIBIT H). 

253

Phyllis Rand

Capitol Coordinator, Governor’s Commission on Senior Services.  Testifies in opposition to SB 210 (EXHIBIT G).  Comments on the role of the governor’s commission.  Relates a personal experience.  Comments on current administrative rules.

321

Chair Fisher

Discusses complaints against providers.  Explains the reason for the  SB 210.  States the bill creates a better atmosphere. 

393

Rand

Relates a personal experience. 

412

Chair Fisher

States the bill is directed at people who knowingly make false complaints.

432

Sen. Messerle

Provides personal opinion. 

455

Sen. George

Comments on false complaints made by people who have Alzheimers.

TAPE 43, B

009

Nebel

Responds that a person with Alzheimers would not be responsible.

013

Sen. George

States the bill is directed at people who knowingly make false complaints.

025

Nebel

States that current law covers the concerns of providers.

042

Sen. George

States the bill is very clear on actions of providers.

058

Cindy Hannum

Senior Disabled Services Division, Long Term Quality.  Comments on the importance of being able to make anonymous complaints.  States the current law has served the department very well.

102

Sen. George

Comments on the complaint process. 

108

Hannum

States the department is concerned about current statute language being removed. 

125

Sen. George

Comments on the right to face accusers. 

137

Hannum

Discusses the reluctance to report problems because of the fear of retaliation. 

170

Sen. Shields

Asks about presented statistics. 

184

Hannum

Responds by explaining the burden of proof.

208

Chair Fisher

Comments on substantiated complaints.

218

Sen. George

Provides personal interpretation of (EXHIBIT H).

237

Hannum

Explains how SB 210 would be implemented. 

251

Sen. Messerle

Provides personal opinion.

268

Hannum

Explains license monitoring.  Comments on the investigation process.

281

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 210 and opens a work session on      SB 413. 

SB 413 WORK SESSION

291

Berkobien

Explains SB 413 and the –1 amendments to the committee. 

314

Sen. Shields

MOTION:  Moves SB 413 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:               4 - George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 – Carter

338

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. SHIELDS will lead discussion on the floor.

344

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session SB 413 and adjourns the meeting at 2:59 p.m.

 

Submitted By,                                                                           Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Andrew Morris,                                                                        Rick Berkobien,

Committee Assistant                                                                 Administrator

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 786, Written testimony and report, Steve Marks, 103 pp.

B – SB 785, Written testimony, Sen. Avel Gordly, 5 pp.

C – SB 786, Written testimony, Rep. Jo Ann Bowman, 2 pp.

D – SB 786, Written testimony, Ruby Haughton, 1 p.

E – SB 210, Written testimony, David Nebal, 2 pp.

F – SB 210, Written testimony, May Dasch, 1 p.

G – SB 210, Written testimony, Phyllis Rand, 2 pp.

H – SB 210, Letter from DHS, Sen. Fisher, 2 pp.

I – SB 786, Letters, Sen. Fisher, 2 pp.