SENATE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

 

 

May 4, 2001                                                                                                            Hearing Room B

1:00 PM                                                                                                                    Tapes 112 - 115

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Bill Fisher, Chair

Sen. Margaret Carter, Vice-Chair

Sen. Gary George

Sen. Frank Shields

Sen. Ken Messerle

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Rick Berkobien, Administrator

Andrew Morris, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           SB 894 Work Session

                                                SB 927 Work Session

                                                SB 917 Work Session

                                                SB 819 Work Session

                                                HB 3078 Work Session

                                                HB 2672A Work Session

                                                SB 418 Work Session

                                                SB 885 Work Session

                                                SB 30 Work Session

                                                SB 553 Work Session

                                                SB 906 Work Session

                                                SB 144 Work Session

                                                HB 3145A Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 112, A

004

Chair Fisher

Calls meeting to order at 1:15 p.m. and opens a work session on        SB 894.

SB 894 WORK SESSION

011

Lori Long

Department of Consumer and Business Services.  Testifies on SB 894 (EXHIBIT A).  Comments on the workgroup that was convened. 

033

Kevin Earls

Oregon Association of Hospitals and Health Systems.  Gives a sectional analysis of the –2 amendments to SB 894. 

132

John Powell

Regence Blue Cross/Blue Shield.  Testifies on SB 894 and the –3 amendments. 

165

Long

Comments on the presented amendments. 

174

Rick Berkobien

Administrator.  Clarifies the amendments. 

186

Powell

Continues testimony. 

194

Holly Robinson

Legislative Counsel.  Explains the language in the –3 amendments.

204

Earls

Follows-up to Robinson’s comments. 

211

Robinson

Comments on federal law.

251

Earls

Discusses the background of SB 894.  Enters letters into the record (EXHIBIT B).

266

Chair Fisher

Enters letters into the record (EXHIBIT C).

280

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 894 and opens a work session on        SB 927.

SB 927 WORK SESSION

290

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves SB 927 to the floor WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION as to passage and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0

AYE:               5 - Carter, George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

327

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

333

Chair Fsiher

Closes the work session on SB 927 and opens a work session on        SB  917.

SB 917 WORK SESSION

336

Berkobien

Explains SB 917 and the –1 amendments (EXHIBIT D) to the committee.

355

Chair Fisher

Comments on SB 917.

388

Sen. George

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 917-1 amendments dated 05/03/01.

 

 

VOTE:  3-2

AYE:               3 - George, Messerle, Fisher

NAY:               2 - Carter, Shields

390

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

394

Sen. George

MOTION:  Moves SB 917 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  3-2

AYE:               3 - George, Messerle, Fisher

NAY:               2 - Carter, Shields

405

Chair

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. FISHER will lead discussion on the floor.

408

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 917 and opens a work session on        SB 819.

SB 819 WORK SESSION

412

Berkobien

Explains SB 819 to the committee. And –8’s (EXHIBIT E)

TAPE 113, A

024

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 819-8 amendments dated 05/02/01.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0

AYE:               5 - Carter, George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

037

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

024

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves SB 819 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0

AYE:               5 - Carter, George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

037

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

039

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 819 and opens a work session on       HB 3078.

HB 3078 WORK SESSION

045

Berkobien

Explains HB 3078 and the –1 amendments (EXHIBIT F) to the committee.

062

Rep. Barnhart

HD 40.  Testifies in opposition to the –1 amendments.  Gives reasons to oppose the –1 amendments. 

090

Sen. George

States the –1 amendments can clarify current law.

096

Rep. Barnhart

Relates a possible scenario.  Comments on psychological treatment. 

151

Sen. Carter

Asks about the –1 amendments.

157

Rep. Barnhart

Responds he does not support the –1 amendment.  Comments on the    –1 amendment.

171

Chair Fisher

Provides personal opinion.  Comments on the best interest of the child.

205

Rep. Barnhart

Comments on the treatment of children. 

248

Chair Fisher

Calls a recess at 2:01 p.m.

250

Chair Fisher

Calls meeting back to order at 2:06 p.m.

266

Dr. Jana Zeedyk

Comments on HB 3078.

300

Dr. Michelle Whitehead

Ph.D.  Chair, Board of Psychologist Examiners.  Testifies on HB 3078 (EXHIBIT G).  Comments on the –1 amendment. 

395

Sen. George

Asks how many problems have been reported in the area of the –1 amendments.

405

Zeedyk

Responds not many.

TAPE 112, B

004

Sen. Carter

Comments on the administrative rules. 

011

Zeedyk

Relates a hypothetical situation.

019

Sen. Carter

Asks if the –1 amendment could cause problems in the future.

023

Whitehead

Responds affirmatively.

025

Dr. Susan Patchin

Board of Psychologist Examiners.  Testifies in support of the HB 3078.

042

Sen. Carter

Asks about the affects of reprimands on record.

045

Patchin

Responds it depends on the level of reprimand. 

057

Zeedyk

Explains the reprimand process. 

070

Whitehead

Comments on letters of reprimand. 

087

Sen. Shields

Asks how many people check on psychologists records.

093

Whitehead

Responds not many. 

103

Chair Fisher

Refers to (EXHIBIT G).  Asks about the adoption of administrative rules and ethics.

112

Whitehead

States that the appropriate ethics have been adopted. 

138

Zeedyk

Explains ethical standards. 

155

Whitehead

Comments on legislative guidance. 

177

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on HB 3078 and opens a work session on     SB 30.

SB 30 WORK SESSION

183

Berkobien

Explains SB 30 to the committee.

228

Sen. George

MOTION:  Moves SB 30 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  3-2

AYE:               3 – George, Messerle, Fisher

NAY:               2 – Carter, Shields

249

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. FISHER will lead discussion on the floor.

252

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 30 and reopens the work session on   HB 3078.

HB 3078 WORK SESSION

265

Justin Burns

Attorney.  Testifies in support of the –1 amendment.  States the bill corrects a misinterpretation.  States the bill is retroactive.  Comments on the background of the –1 amendment.

320

Mike Farnell

Attorney.  Comments on psychological examinations.  Relates a situation with the Board of Psychological Examiners. 

383

Sen. Carter

Comments on the presented scenario.

401

Farnell

Discusses the impact of reprimands. 

TAPE 113, B

000

Farnell

Continues testimony.

015

Sen. Messerle

Comments on the intention of HB 3078.

024

Farnell

Discusses civil liability. 

034

Burns

States the amendment is already in place with administrative rules. 

044

Rep. Barnhart

Provides personal opinion.

096

Chair Fisher

Comments on board responsibility.  Asks if the whole psychological commentary has been adopted by the board.

120

Whitehead

Responds affirmatively.

144

Zeedyk

Comments on the American Psychological Association’s (APA) commentary.

160

Chair Fisher

Asks if the rules are all in print.

163

Zeedyk

Responds she is unsure.

182

Rep. Barnhart

Comments on the APA’s commentary. 

199

Zeedyk

Reads from the administrative rules.  Relates a possible scenario.

220

Whitehead

Reviews administrative rules.

244

Zeedyk

Continues reviewing administrative rules. 

277

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 3078-1 amendments dated 05/03/01.

 

 

VOTE:  2-2

AYE:               2 – Messerle, Fisher

NAY:               2 – Carter, Shields

EXCUSED:     1 – George

304

Chair Fisher

The motion FAILS.

308

Sen. Shields

MOTION:  Moves HB 3078 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

360

Chair Fisher

Calls a recess at 3:08 p.m.

363

Chair Fisher

Calls the meeting back to order at 3:09 p.m.

 

 

VOTE:  2-2

AYE:               2 – Carter, Shields

NAY:               2 – Messerle, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 – George

381

Chair Fisher

The motion FAILS.

385

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on HB 3078 and opens a work session on     HB 2672A.

HB 2672A WORK SESSION

388

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves HB 2672A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Rules and Redistricting.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:               4 – Carter, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 – George

395

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

400

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on HB 2672A and opens a work session on   SB 418.

SB 418 WORK SESSION

416

Sen. Shields

MOTION:  Moves SB 418 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

TAPE 114, A

 

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:               4 – Carter, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 – George

002

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. CARTER will lead discussion on the floor.

003

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 418 and opens a work session on        SB 885.

SB 885 WORK SESSION

004

Sen. Dukes

SD 1.  Explains the –1 amendments (EXHIBIT H).

038

Scott Gallant

Oregon Medical Association (OMA).  Testifies in opposition to         SB 885. 

077

Sen. Dukes

Reviews the intentions of SB 885.  Comments on chronic pain.

113

Gallant

Gives reasons why the association disagrees with SB 885.

134

Sen. Dukes

Comments on continuing education. 

143

Chair Fisher

Asks about pain management programs.

148

Sen. Dukes

Explains how the program would work for different practitioners. 

163

Chair Fisher

Comments on the potential fiscal impact.

177

Sen. Dukes

Responds how continuing education would be incorporated.

196

Sen. Messerle

Relates a possible scenario.

200

Sen. Dukes

Explains how the bill will work. 

268

Gallant

Comments on the intent of SB 885.

287

Sen. Dukes

Explains what the bill will do. 

322

Gallant

Comments on the affects of the –1 amendments. 

329

Sen. Dukes

Reiterates the intent of SB 885.

345

Sen. Messerle

States a need for clarification.

350

Sen. Dukes

Explains SB 885. 

370

Gallant

Comments on the issues surrounding SB 885.

378

Sen. Messerle

Asks for the OMA’s issues with the bill.

383

Gallant

Explains the OMA’s position.

TAPE 115, A

000

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves SB 885 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Rules and Redistricting.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:               4 - Carter, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 – George

005

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

007

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 885 and opens a work session on        SB 553. 

SB 553 WORK SESSION

016

Sen. Shields

Comments on SB 553.

028

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves SB 553 to the floor WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION as to passage and BE REFERRED to the committee on Rules and Redistricting.

045

Sen. Carter

Withdraws the motion to move SB 553 to Rules and Redistricting.

053

Chair fisher

Closes the work session on SB 553 and opens a work session on        SB 906.

SB 906 WORK SESSION

056

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves SB 906 to the floor WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION as to passage and BE REFERRED to the committee on Rules and Redistricting.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:               4 - Carter, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 – George

072

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

074

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 906 and opens an work session on     HB 3145A.

HB 3145A WORK SESSION

077

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves HB 3145A to the floor WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION as to passage and BE REFERRED to the committee on Rules and Redistricting.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:               4 - Carter, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 – George

085

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

087

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on HB 3145A and opens a work session on   SB 144.

SB 144 WORK SESSION

088

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves SB 144 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Judiciary.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0

AYE:               4 - Carter, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

EXCUSED:     1 – George

097

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

098

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 144 and opens a work session on        SB 894.

SB 894 WORK SESSION

103

Sen. Shields

Serves notice of  possible minority reports on SB 30 and SB 917. 

104

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 894-4 amendments dated 05/04/01 (EXHIBIT I).

 

 

VOTE:  3-0

AYE:               3 - Carter, Messerle, Fisher

EXCUSED:     2 - George, Shields

115

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

116

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves SB 894 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  3-0

AYE:               3 - Carter, Messerle, Fisher

EXCUSED:     2 - George, Shields

126

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. FISHER will lead discussion on the floor.

130

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 894 and closes the committee at       3:51 p.m.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Submitted By,                                                                           Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Andrew Morris,                                                                        Rick Berkobien,

Committee Assistant                                                                 Administrator

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 894, Written testimony, Lori Long, 3 pp.

B – SB 894, Letters, Kevin Earls, 15 pp.

C – SB 894, Letters, Sen. Bill Fisher, 4 pp.

D – SB 917, -1 amendments, Staff, 5 pp.

E – SB 819, -8 amendments, Staff, 10 pp.

F – HB 3078, -1 amendments, Staff, 2 pp.

G – HB 3078, Written testimony and information, 102 pp.

H – SB 885, -1 amendments, Sen. Joan Dukes, 5 pp.

I – SB 894, -4 amendments, Staff, 7 pp.