SENATE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

 

 

March 28, 2001                                                                                                       Hearing Room B

1:00 PM                                                                                                                        Tapes 65 - 67

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Bill Fisher, Chair

Sen. Margaret Carter, Vice-Chair

Sen. Gary George

Sen. Frank Shields

Sen. Ken Messerle

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Rick Berkobien, Administrator

Andrew Morris, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           SB 405 Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 917 Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 65, A

004

Chair Fisher

Calls meeting to order at 1:16 p.m. and opens a public hearing on        SB 405.

SB 405 PUBLIC HEARING

008

Rick Berkobien

Administrator.  Explains SB 405 to the committee.

024

Gary Schnabel

Executive Director, Board of Pharmacy.  Testifies in support of SB 405 (EXHIBIT A).  Explains the background of SB 405.  Comments on fee increases and staffing levels. 

066

Chair Fisher

Asks about the Legislative Fiscal Office impact statement.

075

Schnabel

Responds by explaining (EXHIBIT A). 

093

Chair Fisher

Comments on delinquent renewal fees.

098

Schnabel

Discusses delinquent licensees.  Refers to page three of (EXHIBIT A).  States that drug manufactures are not interested in the fee increases.  States that other parties are in favor of passage. 

143

Chair Fisher

Reviews possible fee increases in the 2001-2003 budget cycle. 

159

Schnabel

Comments on the fiscal statement. 

174

Sen. Messerle

Asks about authority in fee increases.

178

Schnabel

Responds the Board of Pharmacy has the authority to raise fees.

190

Tom Holt

Oregon Pharmacy Association.  Testifies in support of SB 405. 

200

Sen. Messerle

Asks about the make-up of the pharmacy association.

207

Holt

Responds by explaining membership. 

216

Chair Fisher

Comments on the budget of the Board of Pharmacy.  Gives personal opinion on fee increases.

243

Schnabel

States that there has not been any opposition to the bill.  Points out that it has been 10 years since any fee increases. 

262

Holt

Comments on the discussion that took place during the drafting process. 

280

Sen. Shields

Asks whom the bill would affect.

284

Holt

Responds by explaining who would be affected.

296

Sen. Shields

Comments on the budgeting process.

318

Chair Fisher

Discusses the budgeting process.

325

Sen. George

Asks for a list of people who would be affected.

332

Chair Fisher

Comments on people he has spoken with. 

344

Schnabel

Explains how the proposed numbers were decided upon.  Comments on policies that need to developed and computer updates that are needed. 

370

Chair Fisher

Asks how many delinquent renewals there are annually.

379

Schnabel

Responds he is unsure, but estimates 100 to 300.  Comments on licenses. 

420

Chair Fisher

Asks about different types of licenses.

TAPE 66, A

000

Chair Fisher

Provides his personal opinion. 

013

Schnabel

Explains the registration and licensing process.  State the board tried to spread out the proposed fee increases. 

030

Chair Fisher

Asks about the equity of payment between licensees.

032

Schnabel

Explains the equity situation.  Comments on the current computer system the board uses. 

052

Chair Fisher

Asks when the e-board is expecting the report on fee increases.

054

Schnabel

Responds the date is not set.  Discusses investigation of complaints. 

072

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 405 and opens a work session on      SB 405.

077

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves SB 405 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  4-1

AYE:               4 - Carter, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

NAY:               1 – George

181

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. FISHER will lead discussion on the floor.

185

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 405 and opens a public hearing on      SB 917.

SB 917 PUBLIC HEARING

190

Berkobien

Explains SB 917 to the committee.

225

Grover Simmons

Adult Care Providers Association.  Testifies in support of SB 917.  Comments on continuing education credit.  Relates an experience where continuing education credits were disapproved. 

290

Earlene Berry

President, Adult Care Providers of Oregon.  Testifies in support of    SB 917.  Presents (EXHIBIT B).  Comments on the role of providers.  Explains reasons why business education courses are needed. 

393

Chair Fisher

Asks how many hours of continuing education adult foster home providers usually have per year.

416

Berry

Responds that some years, up to 40 hours of continuing education is taken.

TAPE 65, B

004

Simmons

Comments on training that providers take. 

008

Chair Fisher

Asks about approval for continuing education classes.

015

Berry

Responds permission has to be received from appropriate authorities before the classes are taken.

043

Sen. Carter

Asks if the business side and care side are considered a single or separate entity.  Comments on training requirements.  Provides personal opinion.

087

Chair Fisher

Comments on business practices.  Provides opinion.

133

Sen. Shields

Asks about training ratios for care and business classes. 

144

Berry

Responds by explaining the importance of business training. 

169

Sen. Shields

Comments on continuing education credits. 

188

Berry

Explains flexibility in training courses. 

204

Chair Fisher

Discusses continuing education credits. 

323

Berry

States that Adult Foster Homes are over regulated. 

246

Cindy Hannum

Manager of Long Term Care Quality, Senior and Disabled Services Division, SDSD.  Presents testimony in opposition to SB 917 (EXHIBIT C).  Comments on the importance of continuing education. 

305

Chair Fisher

States the bill is directed towards the license holders.  Comments on reimbursement rates from SDSD.

330

Hannum

States concern about continuing education.

339

Chair Fisher

Provides opinion.  States that appropriate credit needs to be given. 

409

Sen. Messerle

Comments on the differences in training between business and care practices.

TAPE 66, B

000

Chair Fisher

Comments on SDSD’s role in supervising adult foster homes.

009

Hannum

States the importance of providing adequate care.  Asks that SDSD would be given authority to review courses.

030

Chair Fisher

Comments on the needs for amendments.

040

Meredith Cote

Long-term Care Ombudsman.  Testifies in opposition to SB 917.  Comments on the importance of training.  Proposes an idea for a possible amendment. 

072

May Dasch

Oregon Chapters of the Alzheimer’s Association.  Presents testimony in opposition to SB 917.  Comments on the importance of continuing education.  Discusses the importance of training on Alzheimer’s. 

124

Sen. George

Asks who is in charge of continuing education curriculum.

130

Hannum

Responds SDSD.

147

Chair Fisher

Provides personal opinion. 

174

Sen. George

Asks for Cote’s perception of Section 3.

176

Cote

Explains her viewpoint. 

191

Chair Fisher

Asks about current continuing education requirements.

203

Hannum

Responds by explaining current practices. 

233

Sen. George

Asks about the language of the bill.

242

Simmons

Responds by explaining the association’s position. 

293

Sen. Shields

Asks if Oregon providers can change their practices.

300

Simmons

Responds that the association is working on informing people.

321

Sen. Carter

Asks about the licensing process. 

330

Simmons

Responds by explaining current practices.

339

Berry

Comments on current industry standards. 

404

Chair Fisher

Discusses the looming audit by the federal government. 

438

Gabe Winslow

Legislative Aide to Sen. Charles Starr, SD 5.  Testifies in support of   SB 917. 

TAPE 67, A

000

Winslow

Continues testimony.

037

Sen. Messerle

Asks about requirements to become licensed.

043

Chair Fisher

Responds by explaining situations that occur due to lack of licensing requirements.  Comments on the role of counties.

095

Sen. Messerle

States concern about current licensing practices.  Comments on business practices. 

123

Chair Fisher

Provides personal opinion. 

141

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 917 and adjourns the meeting at     3:22 p.m.

 

Submitted By,                                                                           Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Andrew Morris,                                                                        Rick Berkobien,

Committee Assistant                                                                 Administrator

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 405, Documentation in support of SB 405, Gary Schnabel, 5 pp.

B – SB 917, Written testimony, Earlene Berry, 3 pp.

C – SB 917, Written testimony, Cindy Hannum, 2 pp.

D – SB 917, Written testimony, Mary Dasch, 1 p.