SENATE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

 

 

March 30, 2001                                                                                                       Hearing Room B

1:00 PM                                                                                                                        Tapes 68 - 70

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Bill Fisher, Chair

Sen. Margaret Carter, Vice-Chair

Sen. Gary George

Sen. Frank Shields

Sen. Ken Messerle

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:         

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Rick Berkobien, Administrator

Andrew Morris, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES HEARD:                       SB 104 Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                SB 108 Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 68, A

004

Chair Fisher

Calls meeting to order at 1:14 p.m. and opens a public hearing on        SB 104.

SB 104 PUBLIC HEARING

009

Rick Berkobien

Administrator.  Explains SB 104 to the committee. 

021

Scott Gallant

Oregon Medical Association (OMA).  Presents testimony in support of SB 104 (EXHIBIT A).  Gives a background of SB 104.  Discusses previous testimony and the effect of the proposed amendments.  Comments on the fiscal impact. 

078

Chair Fisher

Comments on the fiscal impact.

081

Gallant

Discusses traveling costs. 

091

Joel Ario

Insurance Administrator.  Comments on the proposed fiscal impact.  Talks about travel reimbursement. 

120

Chair Fisher

Calls a recess.

206

Chair Fisher

Calls meeting back to order.

213

Sen. Messerle

Comments on the fiscal impact.

223

Tom Holt

OSPA.  Testifies in support of SB 104. 

230

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 104 and opens a work session on      SB 104.

SB 104 WORK SESSION

232

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 104-4 amendments dated 03/29/01.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0

234

Chair Fisher

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

240

Sen. Carter

MOTION:  Moves SB 104 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0

AYE:               5 - Carter, George, Messerle, Shields, Fisher

253

Chair Fisher

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. CARTER will lead discussion on the floor.

255

Chair Fisher

Closes the work session on SB 104 and opens a public hearing on      SB 108.

SB 108 PUBLIC HEARING

258

Berkobien

Explains SB 108 to the committee.

272

Chair Fisher

Comments on how the public hearing will proceed.  Provides personal opinion on SB 108.

337

John Lattimer

Audits Division.  Presents the audit of Qualified Rehabilitation Facilities (QRF) (EXHIBIT B).  Reviews the recommendations of the audit that was done. 

TAPE 69, A

000

Lattimer

Continues explaining the audit.

099

Sen. Messerle

Asks about the location of the companies that were audited.

103

Lattimer

Responds that the companies were located in the urban areas.

110

Sen. Messerle

Asks if any conclusions were drawn from the audit.

118

Lattimer

Responds no.

123

Sen. Carter

Provides personal opinion.  Asks how assumptions were drawn.

139

Lattimer

Responds assumptions were not made about specific disabilities. 

154

Sen. Carter

Asks about data collection.

165

Lattimer

Explains the interpretation of the law by the Department of Justice.

180

Chair Fisher

Comments on the legislative intent of the original legislation.

200

Sen. Messerle

States that companies serve specific needs.

213

Chair Fisher

Comments on the contracting process. 

233

Sen. Shields

Discusses the history of the issue.

260

Sen. George

Comments on the need to clarify definitions.  Asks about dollar figures.

272

Lattimer

Responds that the Department of Administrative Services (DAS) needs to keep better records.

284

Cindy Robert

Representing Goodwill Industries.  Testifies against SB 108.  Explains the intent of the original legislation.  Comments on changes that have been made due to the audit.  Discusses the population that Goodwill works with.

368

Sen. Shields

Asks what information the audit report includes.

377

Robert

Responds it includes the information before the changes were made.

389

Sen. Messerle

Asks about locations served.

392

Robert

Responds the Columbia/Willamette region.

415

Tim Kral

Oregon Rehabilitation Association.  Testifies against SB 108 (EXHIBIT B).  Comments on changes made in administrative rules.

TAPE 68, B

000

Roy Soards

Executive Director, St. Vincent DePaul.  Testifies against SB 108.  Comments on services provided by St. Vincent.  Explains past work done on the issue of defining disabled. 

040

Glenda Burke

St. Vincent DePaul employee.  Testifies against SB 108.  Relates her personal experience. 

075

Chair Fisher

Outlines his goal of the public hearing. 

086

Emil Graziani

Garten Services Inc.  Testifies in opposition to SB 108 (EXHIBIT C).  States that SB 108 would make it difficult to employee disabled people.  States that the issues from the audit have been resolved.  Comments on the federal definition. 

146

Sen. Shields

Asks what a work group could accomplish.

155

Graziani

Responds that the audit issues have been resolved.

176

Susana Ramirez

Oregon Developmental Disabilities Coalition.  Testifies against         SB 108 (EXHIBIT D).  Describes the affects of SB 108.

216

James Toews

Office of Developmental Disability Services, Department of Human Services (DHS).  Testifies against SB 108 (EXHIBIT E).  Comments on the definition of disabilities.  Discusses competitive employment. 

268

Chair Fisher

Comments on issues brought forward.

276

Sen. George

Asks if SB 108 is meant to weaken current law.

280

Toews

Responds affirmatively.

291

Chair Fisher

Provides personal opinion.  Comments on the contracting process.

344

Sen. Shields

Provides personal opinion.

379

Sen. Carter

Comments on Toews testimony. 

417

Dugan Petty

Department of Administrative Services.  Testifies on SB 108 (EXHIBIT F).  Explains the role of DAS.

TAPE 69, B

000

Dugan

Gives DAS’s interpretation of SB 108.  Explains issues that SB 108 rises.  Explains current definitions.  Describes the complexity of the issue. 

090

Chair Fisher

Provides personal comments.

095

Dugan

Comments on the intent of the current law.   Provides information on fair market value.

127

Sen. Messerle

Asks about the impact on public funds.

139

Kral

Explains public funds that are used. 

162

Sandra Bishop

Fair Competition Alliance (FCA).  Testifies in support of SB 108 (EXHIBIT G).  Describes SB 108.  Comments on the need for the law.  States that other states in the United States have more restrictive laws.  Discusses the legalities of the issue.  States the law passed in 1977 is outdated.  States that 15 to 25 percent of Oregonians could fall under the current law.

312

Jerry Egger

President, Fair Competition Alliance.  Testifies in support of SB 108.  Comments on the public contracting process.  States that DAS has refused to clarify the definition of disabled. 

405

Bishop

Comments on the make-up of a work group that attempted to work on the presented issue.

435

Chair Fisher

Provides personal opinion.

TAPE 70, A

000

Chair Fisher

Closes the public hearing on SB 108 and adjourns the meeting at     3:13 p.m.

 

Submitted By,                                                                           Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Andrew Morris,                                                                        Rick Berkobien,

Committee Assistant                                                                 Administrator

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 104, Written testimony, Scott Gallant, 2 pp.

B – SB 108, Audit Report, Tim Kral, 79 pp.

C – SB 108, Written testimony, Emil Graziani, 2 pp.

D – SB 108, Written testimony, Susana Ramirez, 1 p.

E – SB 108, Written testimony, James Toews, 2 pp.

F – SB 108, Written testimony, Dugan Petty, 2 pp.

G – SB 108, Written testimony and supporting materials, Sandra Bishop, 90 pp.