SENATE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES, AGRICULTURE, SALMON AND WATER

 

 

January 10, 2001   Hearing Room B

8:00 a.m.     Tapes  1 - 2

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Sen. Ken Messerle, Chair

Sen. Frank Shields, Vice-Chair

Sen. Bill Fisher

Sen. Ginny Burdick

Sen. Jason Atkinson

Sen. Roger Beyer

Sen. Ryan Deckert

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Patricia Nielsen, Committee Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:         Adoption of Committee Rules

                                                 Oregon Plan for Salmon and Watersheds

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 1, A

007

Chair Messerle

Calls committee to order at 8:17 a.m.

ADOPTION OF COMMITTEE RULES

017

Chair Messerle

Offers to entertain a motion to adopt rules (EXHIBIT A).

 

020

Sen. Burdick

Inquires whether there is a change to item 11, regarding minority reports.

025

Judith Callens

Responds these are from Judy Hall, adopted to coincide with new Senate rules, to reflect a 48-hour deadline for filing minority reports.

030

Sen. Burdick

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT the proposed Committee Rules.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0

EXCUSED:  2 – Sen. R. Beyer, Sen. Deckert

040

Chair Messerle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

045

Chair Messerle

Asks for introductions, and introduces himself.

057

Sen. Atkinson

Introduces himself and describes his background.

69

Sen. Burdick

Introduces herself and describes her background.

094

Sen. Shields

Introduces himself and describes his background.

109

Sen. Fisher

Introduces himself and describes his background

136

Sen. Deckert

Introduces himself and describes his background.

156

Chair Messerle

Introduces committee staff.

170

Judith Callens

Introduces herself and describes her background.

189

Jennifer Solomon

Introduces herself and describes her background.

207

Chair Messerle

Describes issue assignments for staff, with Judith Callens working on salmon and water issues, and Jennifer Solomon handling agriculture and forestry issues.

OREGON PLAN FOR SALMON AND WATERSHEDS

238

Chair Messerle

Opens informational meeting regarding the Oregon Plan for Salmon and Watersheds.

250

Louise Solliday

Governor’s Assistant for Natural Resources.  Describes the structure and staffing for the Oregon Plan.  Refers to handouts:  “A guide to State Teams, Oversight Bodies and Funding Agency” (EXHIBIT C); Oregon Plan Directory (EXHIBIT D); and List of Governor’s staff working on Oregon Plan (EXHIBIT E).

296

Solliday

Presents overview of Oregon Plan oversight structure and stakeholders.

383

Solliday

Describes how implementation has been progressing.

414

Roy Hemmingway

Governor’s Policy Advisor on Salmon and Energy Policy.  Submits and reviews written material on the Oregon Plan (EXHIBIT F).

TAPE 2, A

040

Hemmingway

Continues reviewing submitted material.

119

Hemmingway

Continues reviewing submitted material.

207

Hemmingway

Continues reviewing submitted material.

291

Chair Messerle

Describes Soil and Water Districts efforts, forest industry activities, and actions of ranchers, cities and counties.  Asks Hemmingway to describe what progress has been made to try to get the federal agencies to work with us, instead of having individual agencies work on their own behalf.

371

Hemmingway

Explains that it has always been the idea of the Oregon Plan to let local people solve their own area problems, and to give landowners a set of tools to manage their land.

431

Solliday

Describes other efforts under the Oregon Plan to deal with issues on a more local level, and the lesser level of involvement of federal agencies which is developing.

TAPE 1, B

22

Chair Messerle

Reiterates anxiety and concern of constituents about the uncertainty over what the federal government will do, and concern about third-party lawsuits.

068

Hemmingway

Reviews his understanding of the economics of the energy crisis problem.

080

Chair Messerle

Requests information, with focus on Oregon Plan efforts and how they will be affected by the energy situation.

085

Hemmingway

Continues to describe economics of the energy crisis, with net effect of money leaving Oregon because of the situation in California.

162

Chair Messerle

Describes the California energy deregulation, and what consequences resulted.

176

Sen. Burdick

Asks for clarification about interaction between federal listings and mandates, and the Oregon Plan.

185

Hemmingway

Identifies the two aspects of the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA).

216

Solliday

Describes federal process of listing a species, and developing a recovery plan for that species, and explains how the Oregon Plan is the state equivalent.

240

Sen. Burdick

Asks about cooperation between federal and state agencies.

248

Solliday

Responds and describes cooperation efforts, especially with regard to the Willamette River.  Cautions that neither Oregon Plan nor Willamette Restoration Initiative (WRI) is a complete strategy.

262

Chair Messerle

Elaborates about other federal agencies which have come in without consulting the state agencies.

280

Solliday

Describes the interface of Oregon Water Rights law with the ESA, and court cases resulting from conflicts, enforcement actions, and permitting processes.

325

Sen. Deckert

Asks what implications the White House Conference on 1-9-01 will have for Oregon, and the whole northwest, and who will speak for the northwest region during the energy crisis.

347

Hemmingway

Details the results of the meeting, the Governor’s efforts to work with other western leaders to alleviate the problems, and federal agency actions.

414

Chair Messerle

Asks for clarification whether the Federal Energy Regulatory (FERC) has required the northwest to send power south.

420

Hemmingway

Explains that the Secretary of Energy has required utilities throughout the west to sell power to California, and describes the effect on the selling companies, and the prices of electricity in California.

454

Messerle

Observes how the Bonneville system was holding water behind the dams in reserve for extreme winter conditions, and was then ordered to generate power and sell it in California.  Describes the Boise meeting to form a coalition of northwest legislators.

TAPE  2, B

021

Sen. R. Beyer

Introduces himself and describes his background.

036

Chair Messerle

Concludes that natural resource issues are becoming very important statewide, and that the energy crisis could cause a recession or depression in our economy.

050

Chair Messerle

Announces the next meeting, at 8:00 a.m., Friday, January 12, 2001, with Eric Bloch to further discuss energy crisis and its impact.


 

055

Chair Messerle

Adjourns meeting at 9:40 a.m.

 

 

Submitted By,                        Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Patricia Nielsen,                        Judith Callens,

Committee Assistant                        Committee Administrator

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – Proposed Committee Rules, staff, 2 pp

B – Year 2000 update on the Oregon Plan, booklet, staff, 44 pp

C – A guide to State Teams, Oversight Bodies and Funding Agency, booklet, Louise Solliday, 18 pp

D – Oregon Plan Directory, brochure, Louise Solliday, 2 pp

E – List of Governor’s staff working on the Oregon Plan, Louise Solliday, 1 p

F – The Oregon Plan for Salmon and Watersheds, Roy Hemmingway, 12 pp