SENATE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES, AGRICULTURE, SALMON AND WATER

 

 

January 17, 2001   Hearing Room B

8:00 AM     Tapes  7 - 8

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Sen. Ken Messerle, Chair

Sen. Frank Shields, Vice-Chair

Sen. Bill Sen. Fisher

Sen. Ginny Burdick

Sen. Jason Atkinson

Sen. Roger Beyer

Sen. Ryan Sen. Deckert

 

VISITING MEMBER PRESENT:

                                                Sen. Joan Dukes

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Patricia Nielsen, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            SB 49 Public Hearing

SB 50 Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 7, A

004

Chair Messerle

Convenes the meeting at 8:05 a.m.  Opens public hearing on SB 49.

SB 49 - PUBLIC HEARING

008

Judith Callens

Describes bill and impacts.

020

Roy Elicker

Assistant Director, Fish Division, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW).  Presents written statement (EXHIBIT A).  Testifies in opposition.

040

Al Elkins

Porter Public Relations.  Representing the Oregon Hunters Association.  Testifies in opposition.

048

Sen. Fisher

Comments that the appointment of the director is a political process.

055

Elkins

Responds.

060

Chair Messerle

Asks how many members Elkins represents.

062

Elkins

Responds there are 9000 members.

065

Chair Messerle

Asks for alternative suggestions.

068

Elkins

Answers none at this time; he will be polling association members.


 

073

Phil Donovan

Representing the Oregon Sportfishing Industry Association, the Oregon Guides and Packers Association, and the Association of Northwest Steelheaders.  Testifies in opposition.  Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT B).

099

Sen. Deckert

Asks about the difference between this agency and others where the governor directly appoints the executive director.

101

Donovan

Describes different types of agency director appointments.

121

Chair Messerle

Asks how many clients Donovan represents, and whether he has any suggested alternatives.

124

Donovan

Describes membership of his clients.  Responds with suggested alternatives to the bill.

140

Chair Messerle

Asks whether anything prevents the Commission from hiring a consultant.

145

Donovan

Responds in the negative.

150

Chair Messerle

Observes that the commissioners do not serve at the pleasure of the governor, but they can be removed by just cause, which is a stricter standard.

160

Rod Harder

Representing Oregon Sportsmen’s Defense Fund.  Testifies in opposition.

201

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on SB 49.  Opens public hearing on SB 50.

SB 50 - PUBLIC HEARING

215

Callens

Describes the bill and impacts.

220

Chair Messerle

Observes that the issue was raised with the interim committee.  The estimated cost was questioned by that committee, which brought the bill before the current committee.  Describes the current building.

240

Harder

Representing Oregon Sportsmen’s Defense Fund.  Testifies in favor, depending on cost.

255

Chair Messerle

Asks about difficulty of access to department, and advantage of proximity to Portland airport.

260

Harder

Responds.

265

Elkins

Representing the Oregon Hunters Association.  Testifies in support of the concept of the bill, but expresses concerns about the cost of the study.

282

Sen. Fisher

Asks witness whether his client would be in favor of spending the amount dedicated to the study on moving the agency instead.

285

Elkins

Responds with concern about cost to the agency.

290

Sen. Fisher

Wonders about the cost of travel from Portland to Salem during the session, and whether time and cost would be saved if the agency were moved.

300

Elkins

Discusses travel of agency staff and access to Portland airport.

315

Sen. Deckert

Comments about concerns of his constituents who want to retain state resources within the Portland metropolitan area.

330

Elkins

Discusses the cost of renovating the current building, compared to cost of moving the agency.

354

Vice-chair Shields

Explains the concern he had, as a member of the interim committee, about the value of the building.  Suggests that members of the committee go and look at the building.

370

Chair Messerle

Agrees the committee would welcome more information about the building.

375

Sen. Fisher

Suggests the building be sold as is, and allow a buyer to renovate.

390

Chair Messerle

Urges the committee to focus on how the agency functions and whether it would be more effective located in Salem, in addition to the costs of the move.  Asks witness whether there is an advantage to having the department closer to other agencies, the legislature and the governor’s office.

410

Elkins

Describes prior experiences.

TAPE 8, A

020

Chair Messerle

Asks about the agency’s perception of how it functions in its present location.

025

Elkins

Explains the perception of a gap because of the distance.

040

Sen. R. Beyer

Expresses general preference for moving state workers away from Salem.  Asks why the field staff are in downtown Portland, where there is little wildlife.

050

Elkins

Agrees that the emphasis needs to be in the field.

070

Sen. R. Beyer

Comments that Salem has an airport, and asks whether using that airport would be just as easy.

073

Elkins

Expresses support.

076

Sen. Dukes

Asks how many field staff are in Portland, when many staff are located around the state.

080

Sen. Fisher

Observes he has had trouble using airline system in Oregon to serve a business purpose, either to save time or money.

090

Chair Messerle

Points out that all state agencies have access to the state airport, using state-owned planes stationed in Salem.

100

Sen. Burdick

Asks why there must be a study.  Recommends evaluating worth of building if sold as is, and cost of moving the agency to Salem.

110

Chair Messerle

Describes other costs involved.  Explains the interim committee felt all costs should be evaluated before deciding whether to move the agency, and how to fund a move.  Agrees the amount of detail in the study must be addressed.

120

Sen. R. Beyer

Asks whether the bill would go to the Ways and Means Committee to decide how much would be spent on the study.  Recommends against an open-ended study.

130

Chair Messerle

Agrees it probably should go to Ways and Means.


 

135

Callens

Points out the committee received the bill without a subsequent referral to Ways and Means, probably because the cost of the study would be under the threshold.  Explains that the committee may request a referral.

140

Sen. Burdick

Asks for fiscal impact information.

145

Callens

Advises that committee staff is awaiting fiscal information.

160

Chair Messerle

Closes the public hearing on SB 50.

165

Chair Messerle

Adjourns the meeting at 8:45 a.m.

 

Submitted By,                        Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Patricia Nielsen,                        Judith Callens,

Committee Assistant                        Committee Administrator

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – Statement on SB 49, ODFW, Roy Elicker, 1 p

B – Statement on SB 49, Phil Donovan, 2 pp