SENATE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES, AGRICULTURE, SALMON AND WATER

 

 

March 14, 2001   Hearing Room B

8:00 AM Tapes  59 - 60

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Sen. Ken Messerle, Chair

Sen. Frank Shields, Vice-Chair

Sen. Bill Fisher

Sen. Ginny Burdick

Sen. Jason Atkinson

Sen. Roger Beyer

Sen. Ryan Deckert

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Patricia Nielsen, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 2604 – Work Session

SB 319 – Public Hearing

SB 710 – Public Hearing

SB 31 –Work Session

HJM 4 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2455 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 59, A

005

Chair Messerle

Opens meeting at 8:04 a.m.  Opens work session on HB 2604.

HB 2604 - WORK SESSION

010

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of reconsidering the DO-PASS recommendation on HB 2604.

010

 

VOTE:  5-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  2 - Vice-chair Shields, Sen. Burdick.

 

Chair Messerle

The motion CARRIES.

015

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which Sen. Atkinson moved HB 2604 to the floor with a DO-PASS recommendation.

015

 

VOTE:  5-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  2 - Vice-chair Shields, Sen. Burdick.

020

Chair Messerle

The motion CARRIES.

025

Chair Messerle

Opens public hearing on SB 319.

SB 319 – PUBLIC HEARING

035

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator.  Presents bill, dash–1 amendments, and dash-2 amendments.

055

Dick Bailey

Administrator, Water Rights and Adjudication Division, Water Resources Department.  Chair, Hydroelectric Task Force.  Testifies in favor of bill and dash-1 amendments.  Submits written testimony and booklet (EXHIBITS A, B).

110

Sen. Fisher

Asks about decommissioning projects.

115

Bailey

Responds.

130

Julie Keil

Manager of Hydroelectric Licensing, Portland General Electric.  Member of Hydroelectric Task Force.  Testifies in support of bill and dash-1 amendments.

135

Glen Stonebrink

Testifies and raises concern about putting legislature in the decision-making process.

150

Chair Messerle

Comments about possible conflict.

155

Bailey

Confirms.

160

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on SB 319.  Opens public hearing on SB 710.

SB 710 – PUBLIC HEARING

165

Callens

Presents bill and dash-1 amendments.

185

Pete Test

Oregon Farm Bureau Federation.  Testifies in favor of bill and dash-1 amendments.  Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C).

230

Chair Messerle

Asks about issue with processing plant in Medford wanting to use water and irrigate back onto agricultural land.

235

Test

Responds.

240

Chair Messerle

Asks about amending this bill.

245

Test

Answers.

250

Tom Byler

Water Resources Department (WRD).  Testifies in favor of bill and –1 amendments.

285

Willie Tiffany

League of Oregon cities.  Testifies in support of bill and dash-1 amendments.

290

Sen. Deckert

Asks why the Water Resources director should appoint the work group instead of the Governor.

295

Byler

Explains.

300

Vice-chair Shields

Asks about sunset.

310

Byler

Responds.

315

Test

Responds further.

318

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on SB 710.  Opens work session on SB 31.

SB 31 – WORK SESSION

325

Callens

Presents bill, dash-1 amendments, dash-2 amendments, and impacts.

360

Sen. Burdick

Asks whether the Governor’s office was contacted.

390

Callens

Responds.

395

Chair Messerle

Comments on bill last session, not to perform a study but to take action with the federal government. 

400

Sen. Burdick

Asks whether the Governor or agencies have taken a position on the bill.

405

Sen. R. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 31-1 amendments dated 1/22/01.

TAPE 60, A

010

Sen. Deckert

Asks where funding will come from.

015

Sen. R. Beyer

Expresses support for the bill being reviewed by Ways and Means.

020

Chair Messerle

Explains the funding would have to be special fund dollars.

035

Kay Brown

Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW).  Responds to concerns of amendments.

050

Chair Messerle

Comments about the urgency of moving forward.

055

Vice-chair Shields

Asks about the possibility of getting the authority from the federal government.

060

Brown

Answers.

065

Vice-chair Shields

Asks whether ODFW is dealing with the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS).

068

Brown

Confirms.

070

Louise Solliday

Governor’s office.  Discusses budget issues.  Discusses management of marine mammals by federal government.

090

Chair Messerle

Expresses concern that the federal government is mismanaging the mammals and there is overpopulation now.

100

Solliday

Responds and explains further.

115

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Messerle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

120

Sen. R. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 31-2 amendments dated 3/5/01.

125

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Messerle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

130

Sen. R. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves SB 31 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

135

Deckert

Expresses continuing concern about funding.

140

Callens

Describes fiscal impact.

145

Sen. R. Beyer

Suggests the funding issue be referred to Ways and Means.

150

Sen. Deckert

Expresses continued reservations about asking for general funds.

155

Chair Messerle

Suggests sending the bill on with committee’s intent in the record.


 

155

Sen. R. Beyer

VOTE:  6-1

AYE:               6 - Atkinson, Beyer R, Burdick, Fisher, Shields, Messerle

NAY:               1 – Deckert

 

Chair Messerle

The motion CARRIES.

160

Chair Messerle

Closes work session SB 31.  Opens public hearing HJM 4.

HJM 4 – PUBLIC HEARING

170

Callens

Presents bill.

175

Terry Thompson

Past state representative.  Testifies in support of bill.

210

Chair Messerle

Describes movement of marine mammals.

215

Thompson

Elaborates on marine mammal habits.

244

Brown

Testifies in support and submits written testimony of ODFW (EXHIBIT D).

270

Chair Messerle

Describes the issue as more broad than fishing industries.

275

Sen. Fisher

Describes seal activity in upstream rivers.

300

Chair Messerle

Asks if there is a need for similar action for terns and cormorants.

305

Thompson

Explains need for predator evaluation.

325

Chair

Closes public hearing on HJM 4.  Opens work session on HJM 4.

HJM 4 – WORK SESSION

330

Sen. R. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves HJM 4 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED recommendation.

330

Sen. R. Beyer

Comments on watching sea lions hunting herring.

350

Chair Messerle

Describes observations of seals and sea lions.

355

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Sen. Atkinson

 

Chair Messerle

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. R. BEYER will lead floor discussion.

360

Chair Messerle

Closes work session on HJM 4. Opens public hearing on HB 2455.

HB 2455 – PUBLIC HEARING

380

Callens

Presents bill and impacts.

400

Thompson

Testifies in favor.

TAPE 59, B

010

Brown

Testifies in support, and submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E).

030

Sen. Burdick

Asks what the federal government does with the permits.

035

Thompson

Responds.

045

Sen. Burdick

Asks how this bill adjusts the floor of the number of permits.

050

Thompson

Explains.

055

Sen. Fisher

Suggests allowing the federal government to buy the permits.

060

Thompson

Elaborates.

065

Chair Messerle

Asks whether the federal government has relaxed its improvement fund.

070

Thompson

Responds.

075

Chair Messerle

Describes the federal capital improvement fund.

080

Thompson

Explains further.

090

Chair Messerle

Asks about investing the capital fund proceeds in another business.

095

Thompson

Elaborates.

100

Chair Messerle

Asks about opposition during house hearings.

105

Thompson

Responds.

106

Solliday

Responds.

110

Sen. Fisher

Asks about specific terms in bill.  Recommends correction.

115

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on HB 2455.  Adjourns meeting at 9:08 a.m.

 

Submitted By,                        Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Patricia Nielsen,                        Judith Callens,

Committee Assistant                        Committee Administrator

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 319, written testimony, Dick Bailey, Oregon Water Resources Department, 1 p

B – SB 319, Hydroelectric Task Force Report, Dick Bailey, Oregon Water Resources Department, 53 p

C – SB 710, written testimony, Pete Test, Oregon Farm Bureau, 1 p

D – HJM 4, written testimony, Kay Brown, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, 1 p

E – HB 2455, written testimony, Kay Brown, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, 1 p