SENATE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES, AGRICULTURE, SALMON AND WATER

March 21, 2001 Hearing Room B

8:00 AM Tapes 65 - 66

MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Ken Messerle, Chair

Sen. Frank Shields, Vice-Chair

Sen. Bill Fisher

Sen. Ginny Burdick

Sen. Jason Atkinson

Sen. Roger Beyer

Sen. Ryan Deckert

STAFF PRESENT: Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Patricia Nielsen, Committee Assistant

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: SB 710 – Work Session

SB 319 – Work Session

SB 271 – Public Hearing

SB 845 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 518 – Public Hearing

HB 2457 – Work Session

HB 2601 - Public Hearing and Work Session

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

TAPE/#	Speaker	Comments
TAPE 65, A
004	Chair Messerle	Opens the meeting at 8:10 a.m. Opens work session on SB 710.
SB 710 – WORK SESSION
010	Judith Callens	Committee Administrator. Presents bill and dash–1 amendments.
031	Sen. Atkinson	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 710-1 amendments dated 3/9/01.
		VOTE: 6-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Burdick
033	Chair Messerle	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
035	Sen. Atkinson	MOTION: Moves SB 710 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.
036		VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. A motion is made later in the meeting to suspend the rules to allow Sen. Burdick to cast her AYE vote.
	Chair Messerle	The motion CARRIES. SEN. ATKINSON will lead discussion on the floor.
041	Chair Messerle	Closes work session on SB 710. Opens work session on SB 319.
SB 319 – WORK SESSION
043	Callens	Presents bill and dash–1 amendments.
065	Sen. Fisher	Discourages deactivation or decommissioning of any hydro projects.
070	Chair Messerle	Expresses his understanding that this allows them to be part of the process.
074	Sen. Atkinson	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 319-1 amendments dated 3/12/01.
075		VOTE: 6-0 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Burdick
	Chair Messerle	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
078	Sen. Atkinson	MOTION: Moves SB 319 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.
081		VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. A motion is made later in the meeting to suspend the rules to allow Sen. Burdick to cast her AYE vote.
	Chair Messerle	The motion CARRIES. SEN. DECKERT will lead discussion on the floor.
086	Chair Messerle	Closes work session on SB 319. Opens public hearing on SB 271.
SB 271 – PUBLIC HEARING
089	Callens	Presents bill and dash–3 amendments.
115	Sen. Joan Dukes	District 1. Testifies in favor of SB 271.
142	Sen. Fisher	Asks about difference between someone working in a processing plant and a commercial or sport fisherman.
147	Sen. Dukes	Explains.
156	Sen. Fisher	Asks if this refers only to someone holding an office.
157	Sen. Dukes	Replies and clarifies.
172	Sen. Fisher	Asks for a distinction between someone within the organization and someone who is an officer.
175	Sen. Dukes	Responds.
179	Sen. Fisher	Comments some lay people are very political.
185	Sen. Dukes	States that those organizations exist in part for a political end.
191	Jim Myron	Oregon Trout. Testifies in favor of SB 271 with the dash–3 amendments.
203	Sen. Fisher	Asks if this applies to all commission members.
208	Myron	Replies.
210	Sen. Dukes	Explains there is a specific section to deal with this.
214	Sen. Fisher	Asks what becomes of the compensation.
222	Callens	Clarifies issue.
229	Sen. R. Beyer	Recommends revision of section 4, to get people from all interest groups on the commission.

251	Chair Messerle	Asks if Sen. Dukes would be interested in working with a group moving a house bill.
255	Sen. Dukes	Responds.
269	Sen. Burdick	Asks how this will affect the bigger bill. Suggests it would send a message about priorities.
281	Chair Messerle	Reiterates one of the needs of the commission is to have people who know how to serve on boards.
297	Sen. Fisher	Asks if this applies only to fish or to other organizations as well.
327	Chair Messerle	Agrees.
331	Callens	Describes current prohibition.
342	Sen. Fisher	Suggests doing away with all provisions unless all organization officers are included.
353	Phil Donovan	Representing Northwest Sportfishing Industry Association. Testifies in opposition to SB 271and offers dash–1 amendments. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT A).
391	Sen. Burdick	Asks for Sen. Dukes’ opinion.
392	Sen. Dukes	Replies.
430	Sen. Fisher	Comments about excessive restrictions.
453	Chair Messerle	Notes that Sen. Dukes has raised some good points to be considered.
461	Sen. Dukes	Recommends against adding the extra amendment.
472	Chair Messerle	Closes public hearing SB 271. Opens public hearing SB 845.
SB 845 – PUBLIC HEARING
479	Callens	Presents bill.
TAPE 66, A
035	Sen. R. Beyer	Asks if there is a conflict with the fiscal impact.
039	Callens	Clarifies.
050	Onno Husing	Director of the Oregon Coastal Zoning Management Association. Asks the Chair to invite Sen. Dukes and Liz Hamilton of the Coastal Salmon Restoration Task Force to join him at the podium.
066	Sen. Dukes	Testifies in favor of SB 845. Speaks about coastal hatcheries and sport fishing.
142	Sen. Fisher	Asks about location of Nonpariel Dam.
158	Kay Brown	Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW). Offers to find out.
164	Husing	Responds.
185	Brown	Explains further. Testifies in support and submits written testimony (EXHIBIT B).
214	Sen. Fisher	Asks how this hatchery is funded.
217	Brown	Replies.

225	Sen. Fisher	States he wants to go on record that he regrets they can’t agree on the needs of the current hatcheries, but to go ahead and ask for money to do other projects at other hatcheries. Governor’s budget should speak to all projects.
239	Sen. Dukes	Describes Coastal Hatchery Improvement Program (CHIP) and funding.
270	Sen. Fisher	Recommends evaluating the hatchery problem as a whole.
289	Chair Messerle	Agrees, but also commends the task force for its work.
300	Sen. Fisher	Suggests it be done through ODFW Commission, as a whole approach.
309	Liz Hamilton	Executive Director, NW Sport Fishing Industry Association. Testifies in support.
344	Sen. Fisher	Expresses concern over hatcheries being dropped out of the program.
354	Jim Myron	Oregon Trout. Testifies in support of SB 845.
379	Husing	Describes the wide range of people supporting this bill. Testifies in favor, and submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C).
424	Chair Messerle	Closes public hearing SB 845. Opens work session on SB 845.
SB 845 – WORK SESSION
430	Vice-chair Shields	MOTION: Moves SB 845 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation, and be referred to Ways and Means.
434		VOTE: 6-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Burdick
440	Chair Messerle	The motion CARRIES.
446	Chair Messerle	Closes work session on SB 845. Opens public hearing on SB 518.
SB 518 – PUBLIC HEARING
448	Callens	Presents bill, dash–1amendments and dash–3 amendments.
TAPE 65, B
030	Sen. Fisher	Asks if they are doing away with provision for grandfathering.
032	Sen. R. Beyer	Describes.
040	Sen. Fisher	Asks where the dash–3 amendments came from.
043	Sen. R. Beyer	Responds.
052	Sen. Fisher	Asks why anyone outside Oregon is treated differently.
056	Sen. R. Beyer	Describes other states’ requirements for hunter education. Recommends improved and increased hunter education throughout Oregon.
064	Sen. Fisher	States that he is one who would be affected.
076	Sen. R. Beyer	Responds.
082	Chair Messerle	Notes that the bill will not move out today, because they just received the proposed amendments today.
087	Roy Elicker	Legislative coordinator, ODFW. Asks to look at amendment and return with updated information.
099	Chair Messerle	Closes public hearing SB 518. Opens work session on HB 2457.
HB 2457 – WORK SESSION
104	Callens	Presents bill and dash-1 amendments.
116	Sen. Atkinson	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2457-1 amendments dated 3/7/01.
116		VOTE: 6-0 EXCUSED: 1 – Vice-chair Shields
121	Chair Messerle	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
122	Sen. Atkinson	MOTION: Moves HB 2457 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.
124		VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. A motion was made later in the meeting to suspend the rules to allow Vice-chair Shields to record his AYE vote.
	Chair Messerle	The motion CARRIES. SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on the floor.
128	Chair Messerle	Closes work session on HB 2457. Opens public hearing on HB 2601.
HB 2601 – PUBLIC HEARING
131	Callens	Presents bill and dash–1 amendments.
148	Kay Brown	ODFW. Testifies in support of HB 2601and submits written testimony. (EXHIBIT D).
167	Sen. Fisher	Asks if there is more than one tag available per fishermen.
170	Brown	Replies.
173	Jim Myron	Oregon Trout. Testifies in support of HB 2601.
182	Donovan	Testifies in favor of bill and submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E).
214	Steve Grutbo	President, NW Sportfishing Industry Association. Testifies in support of HB 2601.
234	Sen. R. Beyer	Asks why a separate tag is required before purchase of a hatchery harvest tag.
242	Donovan	Responds.
254	Sen. R. Beyer	Asks why people need to buy one tag before buying the other tag.
256	Hamilton	Clarifies further.
267	Sen. Fisher	Asks about limits.
276	Donovan	Responds.
290	Sen. Fisher	Asks what the actual cost is.
283	Hamilton	Lists fees.
291	Sen. Fisher	Asks if there are any other costs.
297	Donovan	Specifies additional charges.
305	Sen. Fisher	Asks about total fees.
305	Donovan	Responds.
306	Sen. R. Beyer	Asks if there is a limit per day.
311	Donovan	Explains.
312	Sen. R. Beyer	Asks why.
317	Donovan	Explains.
339	Sen. R. Beyer	Asks about timing of rule changes.
349	Chair Messerle	States desire to encourage the commission to be proactive.
351	Hamilton	Describes financial impacts.
416	Bob Martyn	Testifies in opposition to HB 2601. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT F).
TAPE 66, B
010	Martyn	Continues testimony.
118	Chair Messerle	Recalls Mr. Donovan, to respond.
127	Donovan	Responds to Mr. Martyn’s points regarding crowding and the change of salmon limits.
175	Chair Messerle	Asks who Mr. Martyn represents.
176	Martyn	Explains.
178	Vice-chair Shields	Asks whom he has talked to.
181	Martyn	Responds.
190	Vice-chair Shields	Asks for ideas how to get more people into the sport.
202	Martyn	Responds.
229	Donovan	Responds further.
258	Chair Messerle	Closes public hearing HB 2601. Opens work session on HB 2601.
HB 2601 – WORK SESSION
261	Sen. Deckert	MOTION: Moves HB 2601 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.
264	Sen. R. Beyer	Comments bill is not broad enough.
286		VOTE: 7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.
	Chair Messerle	The motion CARRIES. SEN. DECKERT will lead discussion on the floor.
292	Chair Messerle	Closes work session on HB 2601. Reopens work session on HB 2457 to allow Sen. Shields to cast his vote.
HB 2457 – WORK SESSION
303	Sen. Messerle	MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules be SUSPENDED to allow VICE-CHAIR SHIELDS to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on Sen. Atkinson’s MOTION: Moves HB 2457 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.
304		VOTE: 7-0
	Chair Messerle	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
305	Vice-chair Shields	Casts his AYE vote.
307	Chair Messerle	Closes work session on HB 2457. Asks for motion to reopen work session SB 710 and SB 319.
317	Vice Chair Shields	Moves to reopen work sessions on SB 710 and SB 319, to allow Sen. Burdick to cast her votes.
320	Chair Messerle	No objection, motion carries. Reopens work session on SB 710.
SB 710 – WORK SESSION
322	Sen. Messerle	MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules be SUSPENDED to allow SEN. BURDICK to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on Sen. Atkinson’s MOTION: Moves SB 710 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.
323		VOTE: 7-0
	Chair Messerle	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
324	Sen. Burdick	Casts her AYE vote.
326	Chair Messerle	Closes work session on SB 710. Opens work session on SB 319.
SB 319 – WORK SESSION
327	Sen. Messerle	MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules be SUSPENDED to allow SEN. BURDICK to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on Sen. Atkinson’s MOTION: Moves SB 319 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.
327		VOTE: 7-0
	Chair Messerle	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
328	Sen. Burdick	Casts her AYE vote.
329	Chair Messerle	Closes work session on SB 319. Adjourns meeting at 9:54 a.m.

Submitted By, Reviewed By,

Patricia Nielsen, Judith Callens,

Committee Assistant Committee Administrator

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A – SB 271, written testimony, Phil Donovan, NW Sportfishing Industry Association, 8 pp

B – SB 845, written testimony, Kay Brown, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, 1 p

C – SB 845, written testimony, Onno Husing, Coastal Salmon Restoration and Production Task Force, 9 pp

D – HB 2601, written testimony, Kay Brown, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, 1 p

E – HB 2601, written testimony, Phil Donovan, NW Sportfishing Industry Association, 1 p

F – HB 2601, written testimony, Bob Martyn, 3 pp