SENATE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES, AGRICULTURE, SALMON AND WATER

 

 

May 04, 2001 Hearing Room B

8:00 AM Tapes  116 - 118

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Sen. Ken Messerle, Chair

Sen. Frank Shields, Vice-Chair

Sen. Bill Fisher

Sen. Ginny Burdick

Sen. Jason Atkinson

Sen. Roger Beyer

Sen. Ryan Deckert

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Patricia Nielsen, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 3634 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 3858 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 3123 A – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 3964 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2008 A – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2604 A – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2051 B – Public Hearing and Work Session

HJM 20 – Public Hearing and Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 116, A

005

Chair Messerle

Opens meeting at 8:06 a.m.  Opens public hearing on HB 3634.

HB 3634 – PUBLIC HEARING

010

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator.  Presents bill.

015

Gary Lynch

Department of Geology and Mineral Industries (DOGAMI).  Testifies in favor and submits written testimony (EXHIBIT A).

040

Linda Bye

Oregon Concrete and Aggregate Producers Association (OCAPA).  Testifies in support of bill.

045

Sen. Fisher

Asks if bill refers to only aggregate sites or also small mining claims.

050

Lynch

Responds.

055

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on HB 3634.  Opens work session on HB 3634.

HB 3634 – WORK SESSION

060

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves HB 3634 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

065

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Deckert

 

Chair Messerle

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. BURDICK will lead discussion on the floor.

070

Chair Messerle

Closes work session on HB 3634.  Opens public hearing on HB 3858.

HB 3858 – PUBLIC HEARING

075

Callens

Presents bill.

085

Kristina McNitt

Oregon Water Resources Congress (OWRC).  Testifies in favor of bill and submits written testimony (EXHIBITS B, C).

100

Chair Messerle

Asks whether a representative of a corporation can serve on a board.

105

McNitt

Responds.

120

David Filippi

OWRC Board Member.  Testifies in support.

140

Chair Messerle

Asks whether the language should be changed.

145

Filippi

Explains.

160

Chair Messerle

Asks about application to drainage districts.

162

Filippi

Responds.

165

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on HB 3858.  Opens work session on HB 3858.

HB 3858 – WORK SESSION

165

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves HB 3858 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

170

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Messerle

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. ATKINSON will lead discussion on the floor.

175

Chair Messerle

Closes work session on HB 3858. Opens public hearing on HB 3123 A.

3123 A – PUBLIC HEARING

180

Callens

Presents bill.

185

Mike Dewey

Waste Management, Inc.  Introduces Frank Hammond, attorney representing Waste Management, Inc.  Testifies in support.

285

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on HB 3123 A.  Opens work session on           HB 3123A.

HB 3123 A – WORK SESSION

290

Sen. Deckert

MOTION:  Moves HB 3123A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

295

Sen. R. Beyer

Comments about land use laws applied differently to local governments than to private citizens.

300

 

VOTE:  5-2

AYE:               5 – Atkinson, Deckert, Fisher, Shields, Messerle

NAY:               2 – Beyer R, Burdick

 

Chair Messerle

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. DECKERT will lead discussion on the floor.

305

Chair Messerle

Closes work session on HB 3123 A.  Opens public hearing on           HB 3964.

HB 3964 – PUBLIC HEARING

320

Callens

Presents bill.

330

Chuck Craig

Deputy Director, Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA).  Testifies in support of bill.

345

Jim Cramer

Acting Administrator, Commodity Inspection Division, ODA.  Testifies in support.

360

Bruce Bishop

Perennial Ryegrass Bargaining Association (PRBA).  Testifies in support.  Represents support of Dave Nelson and Oregon Seed Council for bill.

390

Jim Carnes

Executive Director, PRBA.  Testifies in support and submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D).

430

Ralph Fisher

Member, Oregon Seed Council, grass seed grower. Testifies in support.

TAPE 117, A

015

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on HB 3964.  Opens work session on HB 3964.

HB 3964 – WORK SESSION

020

Sen. R. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves HB 3964 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

025

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 – Shields

 

Chair Messerle

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. R. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor.

030

Chair Messerle

Closes work session on HB 3964.  Opens public hearing on               HB 2008 A.

HB 2008 A – PUBLIC HEARING

035

Callens

Presents bill.

045

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on HB 2008 A.  Opens work session on HB 2008A.

HB 2008 A – WORK SESSION

050

Sen. Fisher

Asks about type of littering covered by bill.

055

Chair Messerle

Explains the bill is sponsored by Speaker Simmons.

060

Callens

Explains application of the penalty code.

065

Chair Messerle

Reviews definition of types of litter in bill.

066

Sen. Fisher

Asks how and why fine amount was set.

080

Sen. Deckert

Comments about increase in fines.

100

Chair Messerle

Closes work session on HB 2008 A.

105

Callens

Gives references from bill.

110

Chair Messerle

Opens public hearing on HB 2604 A.

HB 2604 A – PUBLIC HEARING

115

Callens

Presents bill and dash–A3 amendments (EXHIBIT E).

155

Sen. Fisher

Asks about the restriction against soliciting or advertising for pesticide application business outside jurisdiction.

165

Terry Witt

Oregonians for Food and Shelter.  Testifies in support of bill and dash-A3 amendments.  Describes limited scope of license.

200

Sen. Fisher

Asks why advertising is allowed.

205

Witt

Explains.

250

Craig

Testifies in support of bill and amendments.  Offers correction to text.

260

Chair Messerle

Asks if agency concerns have been worked out.

265

Craig

Responds.

266

Chris Kirby

Administrator, Pesticides Division, ODA.  Testifies in support.

270

Sen. Fisher

Asks about conceptual amendment to correct bill language.

272

Callens

Confirms.

275

Sen. R. Beyer

Raises other differences where corrections may be needed.

295

Callens

Explains.

315

Witt

Responds further.

400

 

Discussion continues to clarify language of amendments.

425

Craig

Elaborates on corrections.

TAPE 116, B

022

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing 2604 A.  Reopens public hearing on HB 2008 A.

HB 2008 A – PUBLIC HEARING

030

Capt. Lindsay Ball

Oregon State Police (OSP) / Acting Director Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW).  Responds to questions regarding penalties.

040

Chair Messerle

Asks about increases in fines.

045

Harvey Mathews

Speaker’s office.  Explains house testimony about increase in littering problem and recommendation that fines be increased.

050

Sen. Fisher

Asks about assessment of fines.

070

Mathews

Explains.

080

Sen. Fisher

Asks who enforces the fines.

085

Capt. Ball

Responds.

095

Sen. Fisher

Inquires how many fines are levied.

100

Capt. Ball

Answers.

102

Sen. Fisher

Asks whether the fines are reduced after being levied.

110

Mathews

Offers to report back with additional information.

115

Chair Messerle

Asks whether there are any criminal charges for contaminating a waterway.

118

Capt. Ball

Responds.

120

Vice-chair Shields

Describes anecdote about tracing the dumping of garbage.  Asks about tracing perpetrators.

145

Capt. Ball

Responds.

170

Chair Messerle

Advises the Speaker will come down to testify.

180

Sen. R. Beyer

Asks about motor vehicle licensing and exemption for littering by commercial fishermen.

190

Mathews

Explains.

200

Capt. Ball

Explains about licenses.  Raises another issue re angling licensing.

235

Terry Thompson

Recommends review by legislative counsel.  Bill intends to include sport fishing licenses. 

250

Sen. R. Beyer

Asks about other licensing.

265

Thompson

Responds.

280

Sen. Fisher

Continues comments about selective levying of fines.

300

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on HB 2008 A.  Advises that legislative counsel needs to work on amendments.  Reopens work session on HB 2604 A.

HB 2604 A – WORK SESSION 

310

Callens

Presents further explanation about dash-A3 amendment.

320

Sen. R. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of amending the HB 2604 dash-A3 amendments.

325

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Messerle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

330

Sen. R. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves to amend the HB 2604-A3 amendments dated 5/4/01 by inserting “(C)” at the end of line 1, page 2.

340

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Messerle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

345

Sen. R. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT the amended HB 2604-A3 amendments dated 5/4/01.

350

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Messerle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

360

Sen. R. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves HB 2604A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

365

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Messerle

The motion CARRIES. 

SEN. R. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor.

370

Chair Messerle

Closes work session on HB 2604 A.  Opens public hearing on HB 2051B.

HB 2051 B – PUBLIC HEARING

380

Callens

Presents bill and dash-B14 amendments (EXHIBIT F).

TAPE 117, B

010

Jeff Kropf

Testifies in support with dash-B14 amendments.

015

Tom Rush

Corporation Division, Secretary of State.  Testifies in support of bill with dash-B14 amendments.

025

Bruce Bishop

Testifies in support of the dash-B14 amendments and bill on behalf of Mr. Carnes, Executive Director, PRBA.

035

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on HB 2051 B.  Opens work session on           HB 2051 B.

HB 2051 B – WORK SESSION

040

Sen. R. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2051-B14 amendments dated 5/3/01.

045

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 – Atkinson

 

Chair Messerle

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

050

Sen. R. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves HB 2051B to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

055

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 – Atkinson

057

Chair Messerle

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. R. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor.

060

Chair Messerle

Closes work session on HB 2051 B.  Opens public hearing on HJM 20.

HJM 20 – PUBLIC HEARING

065

Callens

Presents bill and dash-1 amendments (EXHIBIT G).

080

Glen Stonebrink

Oregon Cattlemen’s Association.  Testifies support of bill.  Testifies in opposition to the dash-1 amendments.

090

Duane Bales

Speaker’s office.  Testifies in support of original bill.  Testifies in opposition to the dash-1 amendments.

100

Arleigh Isley

Testifies in support and submits written testimony (EXHIBIT H).  Testifies in opposition to the dash-1 amendments.

200

Isley

Continues.

300

Isley

Continues.

365

Vice-chair Shields

Asks about the human population of the canyon.

375

Isley

Explains and continues.

TAPE 118, A

025

Vice-chair Shields

Asks about the eagle habitat and population.

030

Isley

Responds.

035

Einav Shochat

Hells Canyon Preservation Council.  Testifies in opposition to bill because of wording which misrepresents the intention of the Hells Canyon National Recreation Area Act.  Submits written material with suggested changes (EXHIBIT I).

070

Gilly Lyons

Hells Canyon Preservation Council.  Testifies in opposition to bill.

120

Sen. Deckert

Asks about the food source of the animal populations in the area.

130

Shochat

Responds and offers to provide additional information.

155

Vice-chair Shields

Asks about effect of change in food supply.

160

Shochat

Responds.

170

Chair Messerle

Closes public hearing on HJM 20.  Opens work session on HJM 20.

HJM 20 – WORK SESSION

175

Sen. Burdick

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HJM 20-1 amendments dated 4/17/01.

175

Sen. Burdick

VOTE:  3-4

AYE:               3 - Burdick, Deckert, Shields

NAY:               4 - Atkinson, Beyer R, Fisher, Messerle

 

Chair Messerle

The motion FAILS.

080

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves HJM 20 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED recommendation.

185

Sen. Atkinson

VOTE:  4-3

AYE:               4 - Atkinson, Beyer R, Fisher, Messerle

NAY:               3 - Burdick, Deckert, Shields

 

Chair Messerle

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. ATKINSON will lead discussion on the floor.

190

Chair Messerle

Closes work session on HJM 20.  Adjourns meeting at 10:11 a.m.

 

Submitted By,                        Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Patricia Nielsen,                        Judith Callens,

Committee Assistant                        Committee Administrator

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 3634, written testimony, Gary Lynch, Dept Geology and Mineral Industries, 1 p

B – HB 3858, written testimony, Kristina McNitt, Oregon Water Resources Congress, 5 pp

C – HB 3858, written testimony, Lyle Umpleby, Powder Valley Water Control Dist, 2 pp

D – HB 3964, written testimony, Jim Carnes, Perennial Ryegrass Bargaining Assn, 2 pp

E – HB 2604, proposed dash-A3 amendments, staff, 2 pp

F – HB 2051, proposed dash-B14 amendments, staff, 2 pp

G – HJM 20, proposed dash-1 amendments, staff, 1 p

H – HJM 20, written testimony, Arleigh Isley, 6 pp

I – HJM 20, written testimony, Einav Shochat, Hells Canyon Preservation Council, 5 pp

J – SB 470, written testimony, James Lewis, City of Jacksonville, 3 pp

K – SB 470, written testimony, Phillip Fell, City of Eugene, 2 pp