HOUSE SPECIAL SESSION COMMITTEE ON BUDGET

Second Special Session

 

 

March 2, 2002 Hearing Room F

2:00 p.m.      Tapes 6 - 7

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:     

                                                Rep. Ben Westlund, Chair

                                                Rep. Jan Lee

Rep. Susan Morgan

Rep. Kurt Schrader

Rep. Lane Shetterly

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 

                                                Adrienne Sexton, Administrator

                                                Paul Warner, Legislative Revenue Officer

                                                Dick Yates, Legislative Revenue Office

                                                Harrison Conley, Legislative Counsel's Office

Sandy Thiele-Cirka, Administrative Support

 

MEASURES HEARD:                     Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                            HJR 76

                                                            HB 4034-A

                                                            HB 4041

                                                            HB 4042

                                                Introduction of Committee Measures

                                                            LC 53 – Revenue Bonds for State School Funds

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 6, A

004

Chair Westlund

Calls meeting to order at 2:29 p.m. and opens public hearing on       HJR 76.

HJR 76 – PUBLIC HEARING

008

Chair Westlund

Closes public hearing on HJR 76 and opens work session on HJR 76.

HJR 76 – WORK SESSION

010

Paul Warner

Legislative Revenue Officer, Legislative Revenue Office. Summarizes and submits amendments –2 (3/1/02), -4 (3/2/02) and the –5 (3/2/02) amendments (EXHIBIT A). Reviews the estimated end-of-year balance chart (EXHBIT B).

043

Rep. Shetterly

Provides additional clarification (EXHIBIT B).

052

Rep. Shetterly

MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HJR 76 –2 amendments dated 3/1/02.

055

Rep. Schrader

Comments on the amendments not before the committee. Notes possible confusion between SJR 50 and HJR 76.

072

Rep. Shetterly

Responds that Rep. Schrader’s question is based on the possibility that both resolutions will be on ballot.

083

Rep. Schrader

Questions the purpose of the –5 amendments (EXHIBIT A).

085

Chair Westlund

Responds that the –5 amendments (EXHIBIT A) are being proposed as a back up.

095

Rep. Schrader

Responds in agreement.

101

Rep. Lee

Notes concern and opposition to the 200 and 220 figures being proposed. States opposition to the –2, -4, and –5 amendments (EXHIBIT A).

114

Chair Westlund

Acknowledges concerns and states that if the proposed amount is not approved that the ability to fund schools will be in question.

121

Rep. Lee

States support for the resolution but not the proposed dollar figure.

124

Rep. Shetterly

Provides further clarification regarding the location of the fund.

138

Rep. Lee

Comments on the backfill situation and the remaining budget shortfall.

156

 

VOTE: 4-1-0

AYE:           4 – Morgan, Schrader, Shetterly, Westlund

NAY:           1 - Lee

 

Chair Westlund

The motion CARRIES.

158

Rep. Shetterly

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HJR 76-4 amendments dated 3/2/02.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0-0

 

Chair Westlund

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

160

Rep. Shetterly

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HJR 76-5 amendments dated 3/2/02.

 

 

VOTE:  3-2-0

AYE:               3 - Morgan, Shetterly, Westlund

NAY:               2 - Lee, Schrader

 

Chair Westlund

The motion CARRIES.

165

Chair Westlund

MOTION:  Moves HJR 76 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  4-1-0

AYE:               4 - Morgan, Schrader, Shetterly, Westlund

NAY:               1 - Lee

 

Chair Westlund

The motion CARRIES.

REP. SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor.

179

Chair Westlund

Closes work session on HJR 76 and opens public hearing on             HB 4034 A.

HB 4034 A - PUBLIC HEARING

186

Chair Westlund

Closes public hearing on HB 4034 A and opens work session on        HB 4034 A.

HB 4034 A - WORK SESSION

191

Rep. Shetterly

MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 4034 –A2 amendments dated 3/1/02 (EXHIBIT C).

 

 

VOTE:  5-0-0

210

Chair Westlund

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

211

Rep. Shetterly

MOTION:  Moves HB 4034A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  5-0-0

215

Chair Westlund

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

REP. SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor.

216

Chair Westlund

Closes work session on HB 4034A and opens public hearing on

HB 4041.

HB 4041 - PUBLIC HEARING

219

Chair Westlund

Closes public hearing on HB 4041 and opens work session on

HB 4041.

HB 4041 - WORK SESSION

234

Warner

Summarizes –2 amendments (3/1/02) (EXHIBIT D).

242

Rep. Shetterly

MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 4041 –2 amendments dated 3/1/02.

248

Rep. Shetterly

Provides additional clarification on the ballot title opinion.

 

 

VOTE: 4-1-0

AYE:    4 - Morgan, Schrader, Shetterly, Westlund

NAY:    1 - Lee

 

Chair Westlund

The motion CARRIES.

270

Chair Westlund

MOTION:  Moves HB 4041 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE: 4-1-0

AYE:    4 - Morgan, Schrader, Shetterly, Westlund

NAY:    1 - Lee

 

Chair Westlund

The motion CARRIES.

REP. SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor.

277

Chair Westlund

Closes work session on HB 4041 and opens public hearing on

HB 4042.

HB 4042 - PUBLIC HEARING

279

Chair Westlund

Closes public hearing on HB 4042 and opens work session on

HB 4042.

HB 4042 - WORK SESSION

284

Warner

Summarizes and reviews  –1 amendment (3/2/02) (EXHIBIT E).

305

Rep. Schrader

Questions and requests clarification of line 20 and the current language.

312

Warner

Responds the current language reflects current law.

319

Rep. Shetterly

Clarifies title reflected on the agenda.

324

Rep. Shetterly

MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 4042 –1 amendments dated 3/2/02.

329

Rep. Lee

Acknowledges support.

334

Rep. Shetterly

MOTION:  Moves HB 4042 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

338

Chair Westlund

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

REP. SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor.

342

Chair Westlund

Recesses meeting 2:50 p.m. and reconvenes at 3:43 p.m. Opens a public hearing on the introduction of committee bills.

INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE BILLS

LC 53 - PUBLIC HEARING

354

Chair Westlund

Closes public hearing on the introduction of LC 53 and opens a work session on LC 53.

LC 53 - WORK SESSION

371

Dick Yates

Economist, Legislative Revenue Office. Summarizes LC 53 (EXHIBIT F). Notes similarities with HB 4034.

389

Rep. Shetterly

Questions if the figure should be $120 million.

400

Harrison Conley

Deputy Legislative Counsel, Legislative Counsel's office. Responds that SJR 50 provides the $120 million and LC 53 adds $100 million in order that the total equals $220 million.

413

Rep. Schrader

Requests clarification that SJR 50 is $120 million and LC 53 is $100 million.  Ask how the figures are interfaced.

416

Conley

Responds and clarifies that LC 53 will only be enacted if HJR 76 fails and SJR 50 passes at the election. 

432

Rep. Shetterly

Questions the consequences if SJR 50 is not on the ballot.

438

Conley

Responds that if SJR 50 is on the ballot, that situation is addressed in HB 4034.

452

Rep. Shetterly

MOTION: Moves LC 53 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.

456

Rep. Schrader

Questions if SJR 50 passes and HJR 76 fails whether the goal of LC 53 is to allocate tobacco revenue bonds to generate the $220 million figure.

468

Chair Westlund

Responds affirmatively.

 

 

VOTE: 4-1-0

AYE:    4 - Morgan, Schrader, Shetterly, Westlund

NAY:    1 - Lee

472

Chair Westlund

The motion CARRIES

481

Chair Westlund

Recesses meeting at 3:48 p.m.

TAPE 7, A

001

Chair Westlund

Reconvenes meeting at 4:31 p.m. and opens public hearing on HB 4043.

HB 4043 - PUBLIC HEARING

003

Chair Westlund

Closes public hearing on HB 4043 and opens work session on

HB 4043.

HB 4043 - WORK SESSION

008

Rep. Shetterly

MOTION: Moves HB 4043 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE: 3-0-2

AYE:    3 - Morgan, Shetterly, Westlund

EXCUSED:    2 – Lee, Schrader

 

Chair Westlund

The motion CARRIES.

REP. SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor.

012

Chair Westlund

Recesses the meeting at 4:34 p.m.

NOTE: The committee did not reconvene.

 

Submitted By,                        Reviewed By,

 

 

 

Sandy Thiele-Cirka,                        Adrienne Sexton,

Administrative Support                        Administrator

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HJR 76, -2 (3/1/02), -4 (3/2/02), -5 (3/2/02) amendments, staff, 3 pp

B – Education Stability Fund Balance Chart, staff, 1 p

C – HB 4034A, -A2 amendment, dated 3/1/02, staff, 1 p

D – HB 4041, -2 amendment, dated 3/1/02, staff, 1 p

E – HB 4042, -1 amendment, dated 3/2/02, staff, 1 p

F – LC 53 (HB 4043), dated 3/2/02, staff, 16 pp