HOUSE SPECIAL SESSION COMMITTEE ON BUDGET
RECONCILIATION
Third Special Session
June 14, 2002 Hearing Room F
10:45 AM Tapes 7 - 10
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Rep. Westlund, Chair
Rep. Tom Butler
Rep. Gary Hansen
Rep. Betsy Johnson
Rep. Susan Morgan
Rep. Kurt Schrader
Rep. Lane Shetterly
STAFF PRESENT: Fiscal
Staff
Revenue Staff
Andrew Morris, Committee Assistant
Sandy Thiele-Cirka, Committee Assistant
MEASURES HEARD: Work
Session
HB 4053
Introduction of Committee Measures
LC 37-1 – State School Fund and
state finance
LC 47 – Revenue Bonds for State
School Fund
LC 46 – Implementation of Measure 88
LC 49 – Public Employees Retirement
Board
LC 54 – Common School Fund
LC 25 – Statewide Special Election
Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 1022
HB 4055
HJR 80
HB 4052
HB 4056
HB 4057
HB 4058
HB 4054
HB 4051
HB 5091
HB 4059
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 7, A |
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004 |
Chair Westlund |
Calls meeting to order at
11:55 a.m. and opens a work session on HB 4053. |
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HB 4053 – WORK SESSION |
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010 |
Rick Olsen |
Legislative Analyst,
Legislative Fiscal Office (LFO).
Summarizes HB 4053 which
delays the sunset on the hearings officer panel until January 2, 2006. States that with the current sunset it
would create budgeting problems for the 2003-05 biennium. |
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023 |
Rep. Butler |
Explains the original
intent of the sunset. |
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033 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Explains the intent of the
sunset extension is to make the budgeting process easier. States that the sunset and the panel will
be looked at in the 2003 session. |
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050 |
Rep. Hanson |
Asks if there are any
other sunset provisions that this type of provision would help. |
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055 |
Olsen |
Responds no. |
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057 |
Rep. Johnson |
Asks for the language
showing a review of the panel will take place in the 2003 session. |
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062 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Responds the specific
language is not the bill. States that
there will be a bill whether HB 4053 passes or not. |
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084 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves HB 4053 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: 7 - Butler, Hansen, Johnson,
Morgan, Schrader, Shetterly, Westlund |
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093 |
Chair
Westlund |
The motion
CARRIES. REP.
SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor. |
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INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE MEASURES – WORK SESSION |
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099 |
Olsen |
Explains LC 37-1 (EXHIBIT A). |
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110 |
Rep. Schrader |
Asks about the state
school fund grants. |
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115 |
Chair Westlund |
Explains the need for the
bill. |
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131 |
Steve Meyer |
Economist, Legislative
Revenue Office (LRO). Provides background of LC 37-1, section 3. Explains
that the $4.9 million referenced on pg. 2, line 16 is the figure from the
first special session. Explains that the education service districts (ESDs)
supported shifting some of the loss to school districts from the state school
fund dollars. States that ESDs requested that they specify how the loss is to
be shared among the ESDs. Adds that if the state school fund is reduced, and
the ESDs share in that reduction and states that the ESDs requested that the
dollars be shared on a per weighted student basis. |
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175 |
Rep. Schrader |
Questions if ESDs will
share the burden not share in excess of burden. |
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178 |
Meyer |
Responds the ESDs would
share in the burden of the $112 million and then specify how the burden is
shared among the ESDs for any reduction in state school fund dollars. |
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181 |
Rep. Schrader |
Clarifies that this LC is
an open ended solution to hold the ESDs relatively harmless. |
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185 |
Meyer |
Responds affirmatively. |
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189 |
Rep. Johnson |
Questions Section 6, sub
2. Questions how the bill addresses the 911 tax. |
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198 |
Olsen |
Responds that he does not
have that information. |
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201 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves LC 37-1 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. NOTE: LC 37-1 introduced as HB 4055. |
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206 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes work session on LC
37-1 and opens work session on LC 47. |
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LC 47 – WORK SESSION |
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214 |
Paul Warner |
LRO. Summarizes and
explains LC 47 (EXHIBIT B). States
that this measure will allow the State Treasurer to issue revenue bonds to be
paid from the flow of revenue from the master settlement agreement. Notes
that the revenues obtained from the bonds will be placed in the State School
Fund before May 1, 2003. |
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242 |
Rep. Schrader |
MOTION: Moves LC 47 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. NOTE: LC 47 introduced as HB 4056. |
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247 |
Chair Westlund |
Recesses the committee at
12:13. Reconvenes the meeting at 4:49 p.m. Opens work session for
introduction of committee measures, LC 46, phases in implementation of
Measure 88. |
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LC 46 – WORK SESSION |
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254 |
Lizbeth Martin-Mahar |
Economist, LRO. Summarizes LC 46 (6/12/02) to the
committee (EXHIBIT C). Explains
that the measure phases in the implementation of Measure 88 for two years and
decreases the maximum amount of the federal income tax deduction for Oregon
personal taxable income. |
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280 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves LC 46 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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285 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. NOTE: LC 46 introduced as HB 4054. |
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287 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes work session on LC
46 and opens work session on LC 49. |
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LC 49 – WORK SESSION |
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289 |
Dick Yates |
Economist, LRO. Summarizes
LC 49 to the committee (EXHIBIT D).
Explains that the bill directs PERS to adopt new mortality tables January 1
of each year, beginning 2003, that PERS adopt new mortality tables as of the
effective date of this act and to apply those tables to any one who retires
on or after the 61st day from the effective date and before
January 1, 2003. Describes the lower employer assessments. |
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382 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves LC 49 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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387 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. NOTE: LC 49 introduced as HB 4057. |
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388 |
Chair Westlund |
Recesses meeting at 4:56
p.m. |
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389 |
Chair Westlund |
Reconvenes meeting at 6:35
p.m. and opens public hearing on
SB 1022. |
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SB 1022 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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391 |
Chair Westlund |
Determines no one wishes
to testify on SB 1022. Closes public hearing on SB 1022 and opens work
session on SB 1022. |
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SB 1022 – WORK SESSION |
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403 |
Meyer |
LRO. Summarizes and
reviews modifications of SB 1022. Reviews the –A3 (EXHIBIT E) and –A4 (EXHIBIT
F). |
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429 |
Rep. Schrader |
Questions the effect of
the -8% balance. |
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436 |
Ozzie Rose |
Confederation of Oregon
School Administrators (COSA). Responds that the 8% relates to that portion of
the State School Fund that is being established to accrue in the cash basis
districts to eliminate those districts from accruing their own cash.
Continues explanation. |
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450 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Clarifies that these amendments
equalize the cash basis districts with the accrual districts in an effort to
benefit from the retiming. |
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453 |
Rose |
Responds affirmatively. |
TAPE 8, A |
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008 |
Rep. Shetterley |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 1022 –A3 amendments dated 6/14/02. |
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010 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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011 |
Meyer |
Summarizes -A4 amendments (EXHIBIT F). |
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021 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Clarifies that this
amendment guarantees that the distributions between present and May will be
higher than actuality. |
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024 |
Rose |
Responds that the
distribution will be based on the end of session estimates. Notes that the
districts will be treated from the present until May as if the districts are
meeting the end of session amount. Clarifies that the additional language
will assist the districts with the auditors and the audit reports. |
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039 |
Rep. Hansen |
Questions if the –A4
amendment is a technical modification and questions the impact for 2003-05
biennium. |
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046 |
Rose |
Responds and describes
that the legislature is shifting an expenditure until the next budget cycle
and the districts are being allowed to accrue the revenue during this budget
cycle. |
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063 |
Rep. Butler |
Questions if any interest
will accrue. |
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067 |
Rose |
Responds and explains that
each district has a unique payment schedule. States that some districts may
have to borrow money, but some may not. |
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091 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Comments and further
explains the -A4 amendment. Acknowledges appreciation for COSA’s work and
effort on the amendments. |
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102 |
Rep. Schrader |
Requests review of
additional advantages. |
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104 |
Rose |
Responds that the schools
will receive the funding in 2001-03 budget cycle, that $5.2 million is the
base budget figure and identifies the advantage of the payment schedule in
2003-2004. |
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145 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 1022
–A4 amendments dated 6/14/02. |
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147 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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148 |
Chair Westlund |
MOTION: Moves SB 1022 be sent to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED
recommendation. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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151 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. REP. SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor |
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154 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes the work session on
SB 1022 and opens work session introduction of LC 54. |
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INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE MEASURE – WORK SESSION |
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161 |
Chair Westlund |
MOTION: Moves LC 54 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. NOTE: LC 54 introduced as HB 4058. |
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167 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes work session and
opens public hearing on HB 4055. |
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HB 4055 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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169 |
Chair Westlund |
Determines no one wishes
to testify on HB 4055. Closes public hearing and opens work session on HB
4055. |
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HB 4055 – WORK SESSION |
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173 |
Olsen |
LFO. Summarizes –1
amendment (EXHIBIT G). |
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185 |
Rep. Schrader |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 4055 –1 amendments dated 6/14/02. |
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187 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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193 |
Rep. Johnson |
Requests clarification
from the Oregon Employment Department. |
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201 |
Frank Richey |
Manager, Unemployment
Insurance Programs Analysis, Oregon Employment Department. Clarifies the
Supplemental Employment Department Administrative Fund (SEDAF) and the
backfill with the Reed Act. Explains that currently the fund is used to
support employment operations throughout Oregon. |
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212 |
Chair Westlund |
Clarifies the actuarial
integrity of the fund. |
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216 |
Richey |
Further explains that the
current projection is that the monies in SEDAF will not support current
service levels beyond the next biennium. States that the potential associated
with utilizing $19 million of the Reed Act money is a possible tax increase
in 2004-2005. |
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233 |
Rep. Schrader |
Questions the current tax
rate. |
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236 |
Richey |
Responds that for 2002 tax
schedule 3 of 8. Comments that the department is anticipating a move to tax
schedule 4 in 2003. |
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255 |
Rep. Schrader |
Questions which tax
schedule was used during the last recession. |
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257 |
Ritchie |
Responds that after 1991
recession unemployment taxes moved towards the middle. Notes that the
reaction in this recession is very close to the reaction of the last
recession. |
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284 |
Rep. Butler |
Questions if the Reed Act
funds will be used for backfill distribution. |
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290 |
Richey |
Responds that the
distribution has not been determined. |
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286 |
Rep. Butler |
Questions if the Reed Act
funds will be in jeopardy. |
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303 |
Richey |
Responds that the current
language has been reviewed by staff and determined that it is in the
legitimate scope. |
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315 |
Rep. Butler |
Questions the emergency
communication account referenced in the bill. |
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321 |
Olsen |
Responds the bill
addresses three topics. |
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340 |
Chair Westlund |
Questions without the Reed
Act monies, what is the current actuarial integrity of the fund. |
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344 |
Richey |
Responds that without Reed
Act there is $40-$50 million in reserve before moving to schedule 5, which is
a very small margin. |
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404 |
Rep. Hansen |
Questions if the transfer
is authorized, does the department foresee a negative impact to unemployment
recipients or programs. |
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413 |
Richey |
Responds that at some
point the $19 million would not be available for the administration of current
programs. |
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425 |
Rep. Hansen |
Questions if that would
trigger an increase in unemployment tax rate or a decrease in benefits. |
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431 |
Richey |
Responds that the full
proposal brings the SEDAF complete and impacts the trust fund by removing the
Reed Act monies. |
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475 |
Lisa Trussell |
Associated Oregon
Industries (AOI). Testifies in opposition to using the SEDAF to the General
Fund, section 4 of HB 4055 A. |
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489 |
Chair Westlund |
Refers to the -1
amendment, line 5 and the blank amount. Requests that $19 million be the figure
inserted. |
TAPE 7, B |
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005 |
Rep. Johnson |
Questions language in
Section 6, subsection 2, enhanced 9-1-1 Sub account, does it go beyond the $7
million. |
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010 |
Olsen |
Responds that he does not
have that information. |
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016 |
Rep. Johnson |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 4055 –1 amendments dated 6/14/02 and that
the measure be FURTHER AMENDED on Page 1, line 5, by inserting “$19 million” after “of” and before
“is”. |
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020 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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021 |
Rep. Johnson |
MOTION: Moves HB 4055 be sent to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED
recommendation. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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027 |
Rep. Schrader |
Requests staff document,
the average tax rate chart, be submitted into the record (EXHIBIT H). |
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035 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. REP. SCHRADER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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039 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes work session on HB
4055 and opens public hearing on HJR 80. |
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HJR 80 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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052 |
Paul Warner |
Legislative Revenue
Officer, LRO. Summarizes the –5 amendments (EXHIBIT I) and -6 amendments (EXHIBIT
J). Discusses the stability fund and notes that on page 2, line 10, of
the -6 amendment should be changed from $150 to $180. States that the -6
amendment creates a school capital matching fund when the stability fund
reaches the 5% cap. |
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095 |
Rep. Schrader |
Questions the development
of the school capital fund. |
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097 |
Rose |
Responds that developing
the rules on distribution of funds, availability of funds, and the equity of
funds. States it will take several legislative sessions to craft the final
product. Notes that once the fund is established the education system could
begin researching other funding sources to contribute. |
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120 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Comments on discussion
that occurred during the 2001 Legislative Assembly on this topic and states
that issue was thoroughly discussed. |
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129 |
Warner |
Refers to the Revenue
Impact statement (EXHIBIT K). Comments
on the future projections of the lottery fund. |
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151 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Acknowledges and requests
a bar chart be available for the floor discussion. |
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156 |
Rep. Schrader |
Requests a chart of the
current endowment fund operations and what sub accounts currently exist in
the fund. |
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164 |
Warner |
Responds affirmatively. |
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167 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Requests Cindy Hunt
provide clarification on conceptual amendments. |
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177 |
Warner |
Reviews the conceptual
changes in the -6 amendments. |
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186 |
Cindy Hunt |
Deputy Legislative
Counsel, Legislative Counsel. Comments that those changes are acceptable. |
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187 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Questions the language
modifications between General Fund and State Lottery. |
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199 |
Hunt |
Comments that the bill
should reference Section 4 paragraph d, where the Lottery Fund is created in
the Constitution. |
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211 |
Chair Westlund |
Repeats conceptual
language. |
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219 |
Rep. Butler |
Requests clarification
from LRO on the revenue chart. Questions the amounts transferred to stability
fund would be from the lottery fund. |
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225 |
Warner |
Responds that there is no
interest earnings created in the fund. States that the interest earnings will
be allocated as the endowment funds are currently allocated. Notes that the
estimate in earnings reduction would be $19.4 million lower than endowment
earnings. |
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236 |
Hunt |
Provides conceptual
language for the -6 amendments, page 1, line 22 delete colon and line 23
delete “(a)” and on page 2, line 1 delete semicolon and “and” and replace
with period. Delete lines 2-3. |
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256 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HJR 80 –5 amendments dated 6/14/02. |
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258 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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259 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HJR 80 –6 amendments dated 6/14/02 and that
the measure be FURTHER AMENDED on Page 1, line 22, deleting colon, on line 23 delete “(a) and on page 2
line 1, delete semicolon and “and” insert a period, and delete lines 2-3, and
on line 10 delete “$150” and insert “$180”. |
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271 |
Chair Westlund |
Questions the blanks on
page 2 lines 27 and 28. |
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276 |
Hunt |
Responds that those blanks
can be edited once LC 25 is printed. |
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290 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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294 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves the rules be suspended for the purpose of reconsidering
the vote on HJR 80 -5 amendments dated 6/14/02. |
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300 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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302 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Provides conceptual
language to the -5 amendments. Line 2, delete the word “statute” and insert
“law” and delete line 3. |
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308 |
Rep Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HJR 80 –5 amendments dated 6/14/02 and that
the measure be FURTHER AMENDED on line 2, delete “statute” and insert “law”
and delete line 3. |
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318 |
Rep. Hansen |
Requests explanation for
the language changes. |
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325 |
Greg Chaimov |
Legislative Counsel,
explains the proposed language is a broader definition and more consistent. |
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341 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves HJR 80 be sent to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED
with the -5 and -6 amendments recommendation. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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352 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. REP. SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor. |
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360 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes work session on HJR
80 and opens public hearing on HB 4052. |
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HB 4052 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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365 |
Chair Westlund |
Determines no one wishes
to testify on HB 4052. Closes the public hearing on HB 4052 and opens work
session on HB 4052. |
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HB 4052 – WORK SESSION |
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368 |
Warner |
LRO. Summarizes HB 4052.
Clarifies the diversion of funds. Notes the -1 amendment (EXHIBIT L) is a reference amendment at the request of
Legislative Counsel. |
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384 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 4052 -1 amendments dated 6/13/02 |
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396 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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397 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves HB 4052 be sent to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED
recommendation. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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401 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. REP. SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor. |
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403 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes work session on HB
4052 and opens public hearing on HB 4056. |
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HB 4056 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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408 |
Chair Westlund |
Determines no one wishes
to testify on HB 4056. Closes the public hearing on HB 4056 and opens work
session on HB 4056. |
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HB 4056 – WORK SESSION |
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416 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Requests staff from State
Treasurer speak to the bill. |
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427 |
Kate Richardson |
Oregon State Treasurer.
States that HB 4056 is similar to SB 832 (2001). |
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445 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Questions if the blank on
page 3, line 35 is $180 million. |
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461 |
Richardson |
Responds affirmatively. |
TAPE 8, B |
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038 |
Yates |
LRO. Comments that if HJR
80 is not passed by the voters, HB 4056 is a back-up measure to issue revenue
bonds based on the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement (MSA). |
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058 |
Rep. Butler |
Questions if any of the
monies being generated by the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement been
expended for backfill. |
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067 |
Yates |
Responds that the revenue
generated by the funds can not be accessed until 2004. |
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068 |
Chuck Smith |
State Treasurer. Concurs. |
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070 |
Rep. Butler |
Comments that $87 million
that is being considered for backfill are utilizing existing resources. |
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075 |
Smith |
Responds affirmatively.
States that the first MSA revenues will be in the April 2004 payment. |
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085 |
Rep. Shetterly |
References the conceptual
amendments outlined in LRO memo and tobacco revenue table (EXHIBIT M). |
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116 |
Harrison Conley |
Deputy Legislative
Counsel, Legislative Counsel. States that the changes identified are
acceptable. |
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129 |
Richardson |
Comments Section 2, sub 3
(a) addresses capitalized interest. |
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136 |
Conley |
Discusses the proposed
language for Section 5 relating to the administrative fund. Notes support for
the language. |
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144 |
Rep. Butler |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT LC 47 (HB 4056) conceptual amendments outlined
in LRO memo dated 6/14/02 in the corresponding sections of HB 4056 and insert
$180 in all appropriate locations. |
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165 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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172 |
Chair Westlund |
MOTION: Moves HB 4056 be sent to the floor with a DO PASS AS CONCEPTUALLY
AMENDED recommendation. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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176 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. REP. SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor. |
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178 |
Chair Westlund |
Recesses meeting at 7:45
p.m. Reconvenes meeting at 9:45 p.m. and opens public hearing on HB 4057. |
HB 4057 - PUBLIC HEARING
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193 |
Hasina Squires |
Special Districts
Association of Oregon. Comments on the companion bill in the Senate. Requests
reviewing the compromise bill. |
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204 |
Michelle Deister |
League of Oregon Cities
(LOC). Comments on SB 1021 and states that this measure generates an
increased savings to employers. |
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221 |
Anthony Bieda |
Lane County Government.
Asserts that Lane County has been addressing PERS for several years.
Testifies and notes concerns with HB 4057. |
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239 |
Maria Keltner |
Association of Oregon
Counties (AOC). Testifies in opposition to HB 4057. |
|
270 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes public hearing HB
4057 and opens work session on HB 4057. |
HB 4057 - WORK SESSION
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272 |
Yates |
LRO. Summarizes HB 4057,
requires Public Employees Retirement Board to establish mortality tables for
each calendar year beginning January 1, 2003. Notes the need for amending
page 2, lines 32-35. |
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305 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Comments on the blank on
page 2, line 34. |
|
318 |
Yates |
Questions the operative
date for employer’s contributions, page 2, line 34. |
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322 |
Dave Heynderickx |
Senior Deputy Counsel,
Legislative Counsel. Defers to Steve Delaney. States that in order to have
any current savings in this biennium, the contribution rate needs to be
adjusted. Notes that the next scheduled rate adjustment is July 1, 2003. |
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335 |
Dallas Weyand |
Legislative Analyst, LFO.
States that the implementation can occur quickly. Assumes July 1, 2002. |
|
353 |
Chair Westlund |
Questions if committee
members have a copy of the -1 amendment. |
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364 |
Rep. Butler |
Questions if the PERS
computer technology is capable of handling the annual mortality reports. |
|
379 |
Steve Delaney |
Legislative Liaison, PERS.
Responds that the question addressed when PERS could change employer rates in
factoring the change in mortality tables. States that PERS can react very
quickly to this directive. Concurs that the implementation of multiple
mortality tables will be an increased workload to PERS and will have a fiscal
impact. |
|
394 |
Rep. Butler |
Questions the estimated fiscal
impact. |
|
399 |
Delaney |
Responds that all three
proposals have approximately the same impact. States that the impact is
approximately $7.5 million and that includes FTE and initial expenses for the
computer systems. |
|
416 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Refers to page 2 of the
Fiscal Impact Statement, implementation costs to PERS (EXHIBIT N). |
|
438 |
Brian DeLashmutt |
Representing numerous
organizations. States that the -1 amendments are technical (EXHIBIT O). Explains the language
change mortality to actuarial equivalency. Comments on the deletion of
Section 7 and that on page 2, line32 that 2003 be deleted and insert 2002. |
|
488 |
Rep. Butler |
Notes concerns in deleting
Section 7. States that this language needs to be somewhere in HB 4057.
Asserts that he is not supportive of moving forward without establishing
clarity that no new contract rights are created. |
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016 |
DeLashmutt |
Responds that this
language does not impact what is currently contractual rights. States that
this measure establishes a system on addressing actuarial equivalence tables
and to develop a continuous system. |
|
020 |
Rep. Butler |
Stresses that nothing
occur in PERS that creates, modifies, changes or expands contract rights. |
|
035 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes work session on HB
4057 and opens public hearing on HB 4058. |
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037 |
Chair Westlund |
Determines no one wishes
to testify on HB 4058. Closes the public hearing on HB 4058 and opens work
session on HB 4058. |
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HB 4058 – WORK SESSION |
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041 |
Meyer |
LRO. Summarizes HB 4058,
directs the Division of State Lands (DSL) to apportion to counties for
distribution to school districts at least 5% of the Common School Fund from
2002-2005. |
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043 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Comments that the Common
School Fund is approximately $730 million as of January 1 and 5% is
approximately $20 million. States that in extending this distribution until
2007 will assist in filling the gap in future biennium and create some
distribution stability. |
|
060 |
Rep. Schrader |
Questions if enacted, the
act sunset in 2007. |
|
063 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Responds affirmatively. |
|
065 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves HB 4058 be sent to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. VOTE: 6-0-1 |
|
069 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. REP. SHETTERLY will lead discussion on the floor. |
|
070 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes work session on HB
4058 and opens public hearing on
HB 4054. |
HB 4054 - PUBLIC HEARING
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079 |
Joe Schweinhart |
Associated Oregon
Industries (AOI). Testifies in opposition to HB 4054. Recommends that Measure
88 be fully implemented. |
|
095 |
J.L. Wilson |
National Federation of
Independent Business. Testifies in opposition to HB 4054. Supports fully
implementing Measure 88. |
|
108 |
Rep. Hansen |
Questions if the business
community has any suggestions for solving the state’s financial crisis. |
|
116 |
Schweinhart |
Responds no. |
|
133 |
Wilson |
Responds that the business
community has suffered loss of employment and small business closures. States
that once employment is increased the state’s revenue will rise. |
|
141 |
Chair Westlund |
Comments and discusses the
phase-in outlined in HB 4054. |
|
158 |
Schweinhart |
Responds and discusses
that full implementation of Measure 88 would stimulate the economy. |
|
169 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Comments and explains that
Oregon is moving towards a rebalance without implementing a general tax increase. |
|
190 |
Chair Westlund |
Acknowledges testimony.
States that Oregon has maintained the state’s credit rating. Closes public
hearing on HB 4054 and opens work session on HB 4054. |
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214 |
Martin-Mahar |
LFO. Summarizes HB 4054
and the –1 amendment (EXHIBIT P)
and reviews the income tax table on the Fiscal Impact Statement (EXHIBIT Q). |
|
237 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 4054 -1 amendment dated 6/14/02. |
|
240 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
|
251 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves HB 4054 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED
recommendation. VOTE: 6-0-1 |
|
254 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objections, declares the motion CARRIED. REP. WESTLUND will lead discussion on the floor. |
|
260 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes work session on HB
4054. Requests staff research the status of HB 4059, ask that the committee
stand at ease at 10:25 p.m. |
|
275 |
Chair Westlund |
Reconvenes at 10:40 p.m.
and opens public hearing on HB 4051. |
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HB 4051 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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287 |
Chair Westlund |
Determines no one wishes
to testify on HB 4051. Closes public hearing on HB 4051 and opens work
session on HB 4051. |
HB 4051 - WORK SESSION
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303 |
Yates |
LRO. Summarizes and
reviews the previously adopted –1, -2, and –3 amendments. |
|
325 |
Rep. Johnson |
Requests additional review
of -1, -2 and -3 amendments. |
|
327 |
Yates |
Explains that and provides
additional review. |
|
365 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Comments and questions the
-8 amendment. |
|
402 |
Yates |
Responds that the -8
combines the -1, -2 and -3 amendments. |
|
432 |
Chair Westlund |
Recesses the committee at
10:55 p.m. Reconvenes the committee at 11:02 p.m. |
|
441 |
Chair Westlund |
Comments on the –8
amendments. |
|
452 |
Rep. Butler |
Summarizes the –9
amendments (EXHIBIT R),
establishing a revenue neutral arrangement to the cities, counties and the Elderly
and Disabled Special Transportation Fund. |
|
477 |
Rep. Butler |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 4051 -9 amendments dated 6/14/02. |
|
480 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Questions the revenue
impact. |
|
482 |
Yates |
Responds that 2001-2003
biennium revenue appropriated to the health plan would be reduced by $1.7
million. |
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007 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Comments on revenue
negotiations. Notes concerns and unintended consequences with agreements in
existing revenue packages. |
|
015 |
Chair Westlund |
Acknowledges concerns. |
|
024 |
Rep. Hansen |
Comments in support of –9
amendments. |
|
038 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objections, declares the motion CARRIED. |
|
040 |
Rep. Butler |
Summarizes the –11
amendments (EXHIBIT S),
establishes the Oregon Health Care Fund. Notes that the monies in that fund
would be distributed to the Oregon Health Plan and mental health services. |
|
066 |
Rep. Johnson |
Questions what mechanism
allows for revenue distribution. |
|
074 |
Rep. Butler |
Responds that funds are
currently available and would be transferred. States that the Legislature would
determine the distribution of extra revenues. |
|
102 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Comments on the potential
policy implications. Discuses concerns. |
|
108 |
Chair Westlund |
Questions the intent of
the amendment. |
|
118 |
Rep. Schrader |
Clarifies that the monies
are to be dedicated to health care, not exclusively the Oregon Health Plan.
States that the scope of funding is being expanded. |
|
122 |
Rep. Butler |
Concurs. Further explains
the legislative intent. States that creating a Health Care Fund would address
the health care needs of Oregonians. Notes the importance of preventative
care. |
|
140 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Clarifies that the
amendment creates a new fund. |
|
145 |
Rep. Butler |
Responds affirmatively,
Section 7 creates the Oregon Health Care Fund. |
|
149 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Repeats concerns regarding
unintended consequences and impact to current policy. |
|
160 |
Rep. Butler |
Discusses the longevity of
health care benefits, not just medical insurance benefits relating to the
health plan. |
|
172 |
Chair Westlund |
Recommends developing -11
amendments in the Senate. |
|
195 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves HB 4051 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
|
200 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objections, declares the motion CARRIED. REP. SCHRADER will lead discussion on the floor. |
|
225 |
Chair Westlund |
Recesses meeting at 11:20
p.m. Reconvenes meeting at 12:25 a.m. and opens work session for introduction
of committee measures. |
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234 |
Adrienne Sexton |
Fiscal Analyst, LFO.
Summarizes LC 25, establishes procedure for statewide special election for
HJR 80 and HB 4051. |
|
251 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Questions the consequences
if the governor vetoes this bill. |
|
252 |
Ted Reutlinger |
Senior Deputy Legislative
Counsel, LC. Responds that there would be no statewide special election in
September. Notes that this is an unresolved legal question. States that the
bill is necessary to call the election and to appropriate the money to the
Secretary of State’s office. |
|
269 |
Chair Westlund |
MOTION: Moves LC 25 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
|
272 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection,
declares the motion CARRIED. NOTE: LC 25 introduces as HB 4059. |
|
275 |
Chair Westlund |
Closes work session and
requests the committee stand at ease at 12:28 a.m. (June 15, 2002). |
|
277 |
Chair Westlund |
Reconvenes 12:32 a.m. and
opens a public hearing on HB 5091. |
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HB 5091 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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|
280 |
Chair Westlund |
Determines no one wishes
to testify on HB 5091. Closes public hearing on HB 5091 and opens work
session on HB 5091. |
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|
306 |
Ken Rocco |
Legislative Fiscal
Officer, LFO. Summarizes the –2 amendments (EXHIBIT T). Reviews the conceptual changes resulting from the
action taken on HB 4051 -9 amendments. Notes the amendment caused a $2.1
million reduction to the anticipated cigarette tax. Page 13, line 29 “General
Fund” figure changed to $-200,080,503, page 14, line 6, “Federal Funds”
changed to $-167,943,064, page 28, line 31, “Other Funds” $115,416,128, and
page 29, line 4 “Other Funds” $113,282,749 and line 5 “Federal Funds”
$167,537,155. |
|
363 |
Chair Westlund |
MOTION: Moves HB 5091 conceptual changes to the -2 amendments, dated
6/14/02. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
|
367 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
|
375 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves HB 5091 –2 amendments, dated 6/14/02, as conceptually
amended. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
|
379 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
|
381 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves HB 5091 be sent to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED
recommendation. |
|
367 |
Chair Westlund |
Comments and contends that
the legislative intent is to allow the university system to increase tuition
above the 3% at the discretion of each university. Explains that the PERS
bill will not be moved out of committee, thus the budget will be out of
balance by $15 million. |
|
437 |
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VOTE: 6-1-0 AYE: Butler, Johnson, Morgan,
Schrader, Shetterly, Westlund NAY: Hansen |
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442 |
Chair Westlund |
The motion CARRIES. REP. WESTLUND will lead discussion on the floor. |
|
447 |
Chair Westlund |
Recesses meeting at 12:40
a.m. Reconvenes at 12:55 |
|
450 |
Chair Westlund |
Reconvenes meeting at
12:55 a.m. and opens a public hearing on HB 4059. |
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HB 4059 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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455 |
Chair Westlund |
Determines no one wishes
to testify on HB 4059. Closes public hearing on HB 4059. |
HB 4059 - WORK SESSION
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459 |
Sexton |
LFO. Summarizes HB 4059.
Comments that an amendment is necessary and speaks to page 6, section 10
insert into the blank $1.5 million into the emergency fund. |
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023 |
Chair Westlund |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 4059 conceptual amendment in Section 10 to
include $1.5 million from the General Fund be placed in the Emergency Fund
for special purpose appropriation for election expenses to the Secretary of
State. VOTE: 7-0-0 |
|
030 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
|
031 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves HB 4059 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED
recommendation. |
|
035 |
Rep. Hansen |
Questions why order a
special election and not wait until the general election. |
|
038 |
Chair Westlund |
Responds that the special
election will provide certainty for the school boards. |
|
041 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Adds there will be
uncertainty with the cigarette dealers and wholesalers. |
|
048 |
Rep. Hansen |
Questions if July 1, 2002
were removed from HB 4059 would a special election still be necessary. |
|
055 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Responds that if the
Senate passes the revenue bonds to underlie Measure 88 a special election
would still be necessary. |
|
066 |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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067 |
Chair Westlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. REP. BUTLER will lead discussion on the floor. |
|
070 |
Chair Westlund |
Recesses meeting at 1:15
a.m. NOTE: The committee did not reconvene. |
Submitted By, Reviewed By,
Andrew Morris, Adrienne Sexton,
Committee Assistant Administrator
Sandy Thiele-Cirka,
Committee Assistant
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– LC 37-1, Draft, staff, 4 pp
B
– LC 47, Draft, staff, 9 pp
C
– LC 46, Draft, staff, 20 pp
D
– LC 49, Draft, staff, 4 pp
E
– SB 1022, -A3 amendments, staff, 1p
F
– SB 1022, -A4 amendments, staff, 1 p
G
– HB 4055, -1 amendment, staff, 1p
H
– HB 4055, Tax Rate Schedule, staff, 1p
I
– HJR 80, -5 amendments, staff, 1p
J
– HJR 80, -6 amendments, staff, 2pp
K
– HJR 80, Revenue Impact Statement, staff, 1p
L
– HB 4052, -1 amendment, staff, 1p
M
– HB 4056, DAS Memo dated 6/14/02, staff, 2pp
N
– HB 4057, Fiscal Impact Statement, staff, 2pp
O
– HB 4057, -1 amendment, DeLashmutt, 2pp
P
– HB 4054, -1 amendment, staff, 9pp
Q
– HB 4054, Fiscal Staff Measure Summary, staff, 1p
R
– HB 4051, -9 amendments, Butler, 2pp
S
– HB 4051, -11 amendments, Butler, 1p
T
– HB 5091, -2 amendments, staff, 30 pp