HOUSE COMMITTEE ON

AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES

 

January 21, 2003   Hearing Room D

1:00 PM     Tapes  4 - 6

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Jeff Kropf, Chair

Rep. George Gilman, Vice-Chair

Rep. Kelley Wirth, Vice-Chair

Rep. Elizabeth Terry Beyer

Rep. Dave Hunt

Rep. Donna Nelson

Rep. Patti Smith

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Ray Kelly, Committee Administrator

David Peffley, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            LC 1388 – Work Session

                                                Informational Meeting

                                                         Invited testimony

                                                            Mike Grainey, Oregon Office of Energy

                                                            Lindsay Ball, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife

                                                                (ODFW)

                                                            Ann Hanus, Oregon Division of State Lands (ODSL)

                                                HB 2179 – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 4, A

005

Chair Kropf

Calls meeting to order; 1:06.  Announces that the swearing in of witnesses will not occur, but a clause on truthful testimony will be contained on future sign-in sheets.  Opens a work session on LC 1388.

WORK SESSION – LC 1388

036

Chair Kropf

Opens a work session on Introduces Legislative Concept (LC) 1388, relating to the bear and cougar issue. 

053

Ray Kelly

Explains the purpose of introducing an LC.

058

Rep. Gilman

MOTION:  Moves LC 1388 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.

061

Rep. Nelson

Questions wording of measure.

067

Chair Kropf

Asks what she means.

069

Rep. Nelson

Explains her concern

073

Chair Kropf

Explains that this is just a draft summary.  Asks Ray Kelly to read ORS to clarify the issue.

078

Kelly

Reads relative portion of ORS.  Explains intended meaning of measure. 

090

Chair Kropf

Asks about damage control, government management exceptions, and whether the LC would repeal them..

095

Kelly

Confirms that it would repeal them.

097

Chair Kropf

Asks about the license suspension for violation clause.

099

Kelly

Affirms that this clause also would be repealed.

102

Chair Kropf

Asks Rep. Nelson if she understands.

106

Rep. Nelson

States agreement with the intended meaning.

110

Rep. Wirth

Asks for clarification of the present statute.

119

Kelly

Clarifies present statute.

126

Chair Kropf

Offers further clarification regarding the intention of LC 1388.

139

Rep. Wirth

Reiterates her understanding that individual hunters would not face license suspensions.

142

Rep. Beyer

Asks for clarification that Oregon Fish and Wildlife (ODFW) would be in jurisdiction under this regulation.

150

Chair Kropf.

Affirms Rep. Beyer’s understanding.  Adds that this is a question which needs to be fleshed out in the upcoming debate. 

159

Rep. Hunt

Asks procedural question of the Chair.

164

Chair Kropf

Explains the process of a legislative concept becoming a law.

175

Rep. Nelson

Asks if there have been an excess of bear or cougar attacks.

183

Chair Kropf

Confirms that a bear was eating a deer within city limits in Bend recently, amongst other instances and feels that this is a public safety issue.

217

Rep. Nelson

Asks if the ORS speaks to the disposal of animals.

220

Kelly

Clarifies the contents of the present statute.  Restates that this is currently not a bill, but a concept. 

239

Rep. Nelson

Notes that if we pass this LC, we will need a provision for disposal.

255

 

VOTE:  6-1

AYE:               6 - Beyer, Gilman, Hunt, Nelson, Smith P., Kropf

NAY:               1 - Wirth

 

Chair

The motion CARRIES.

274

Chair

Closes work session and opens the informational meeting. 

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

282

Mike Grainey

Director, Oregon Office of Energy (OOE).  Explains duties, jurisdiction of the Office of Energy. Responds to legislation regarding a potential energy crisis. 

TAPE 5, A

028

Grainey

Continues testimony. Introduces (EXHIBIT A) explaining past legislation and examining future legislation.

066

Grainey

Discusses biomass energy and submits (EXHIBIT B), Oregon Biomass Energy Facility Directory.

080

Chair Kropf

Asks witness whether tax incentives have been successful in promoting the use of biomass fuels.

088

Grainey

Testifies that it definitely made a significant difference.  States issues of concern to OOE.  Submits (EXHIBIT C) – the 2003-2005 State of Oregon Energy Plan.

168

Chair Kropf

Refers to the Oregon ethanol plant to be operating 2004.  Asks if this is the first of its kind in Oregon.

172

Grainey

Responds affirmatively.  States interest in also opening two other plants in Eastern Oregon.

185

Rep. Nelson

Asks about the success of the straw program.

197

John White

States that he’s not aware of the program, but would definitely support straw as energy.

199

Rep. Nelson

Asks what could we have done to prevent the deceptive pricing by utilities

210

Grainey

Alludes to the unregulated market and suggests that more regulation could help with the problem.  States that the federal government is investigating the problem.

254

Rep. Nelson

Asks witness if they would be able to help draft a bill to go after the offenders.

259

Grainey

Responds that they would be interested in working toward that goal.

266

Nelson

Asks if we could use all the tires we get from Washington and Idaho for energy generation?

271

Grainey

Responds that it’s too expensive and that unfortunately, it’s cheaper to landfill. 

287

White

Adds that using tires for energy is not viable at this point.

294

Rep. Nelson

Recommends that the Energy office direct used tires to R.B. Rubber in McMinnville so they won’t have to import them from Canada.  Asks if the Energy office has any economic development programs ready to put people to work this year.

308

Grainey

Responds that they are working on that issue.

326

Rep. Nelson

Asks where we can get the extra $50,000,000 in loans.

333

Grainey

States that he expects the loans to be approved.

336

Rep. Wirth

Asks how much the public purpose fee from SB 1149 fund has accumulated to date?

338

Grainey

States that for 2002, the figure was $50,000,000.  Adds that the figure will increase in the future.

367

Lindsay Ball

Director of the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife.  Introduces his office and (EXHIBIT D)- ODFW legislative concepts. 

TAPE 4, B

024

Ball

Continues introducing ODFW’s legislative agenda.

043

Chair Kropf

Asks if Oregon grass seed can successfully be used in habitat restoration after a fire. 

053

Ball

Responds that ODFW will search for the answer.

065

Ball

Continues stating ODFW’s legislative agenda.

085

Chair Kropf

Assumes this is a dedicated fund problem.  Asks if this understanding is correct?

087

Ball

Responds affirmatively.

088

Chair Kropf

Asks how much money we have left in the fund.

092

Ball

States that he doesn’t exactly know, but that Pam Ryan can bring forth the active file. 

110

Chair Kropf

Commends Ball and ODFW. 

124

 Ball

Introduces LC 635 related to harmful substances in  the water. 

131

Chair Kropf

Asked whether the witness has discussed HB 2209.

136

Ball

Discusses HB 2209 in light of tuberculosis crisis.  Introduces issues relating  to Oregon salmon hatcheries and research on fish.

213

Chair Kropf

States that he finds this research to be an excellent concept which may revolutionize hatcheries.

225

Rep. Wirth

Asks how that differs from a conservation hatchery.

227

Ball

Elucidates on the differences between this program and those relating to the conservation hatcheries.

272

Ball

Continues with issues relating to wolves, agriculture, and hunting. 

321

Nelson

Suggests that we invoke a fee for non-resident clammers.

334

Ball

Mentions that that issue has been brought to the legislature five times and it’s been soundly refuted each time. 

350

Nelson

States that she has been asked to sponsor a similar bill.

360

Ann Hanus

Director of the Oregon Division of State Lands (ODSL).  Introduces her staff.  Gives an overview of (EXHIBIT E) – Oregon Division of State Lands packet.

TAPE 5, B

030

Hanus

Continues testimony, introducing the history of the department and agency activities of ODSL. 

071

Hanus

Highlights agency activities and legislative issues of concern to ODSL through a power point presentation. 

258

Rep. Wirth

Asks how ODSL to explain how we’re proceeding in regard to the removal fill permitting.

267

John Lilly

Assistant Director ODSL.  Responds to Rep. Wirth’s concern in relation to the isolation of wetlands issue.

301

Rep. Hunt

Asks for explanation of the distributions from the Common School Fund (CSF).

313

Hanus

Explains the process for CSF distribution.

337

Rep. Hunt

Follows up by asking if this process would  require statutory changes.

339

Hanus

Responds that one of the bills which ODSL is planning to introduce will address that concern.

350

Rep. Nelson

States that her constituents are concerned about establishing low cost housing, which is not being addressed promptly due to the protection of  wetlands.

377

Hanus

States that she would be interested to know more specifics so that ODSL can respond in a timely fashion. 

TAPE 6, A

005

Chair Kropf

Closes informational meeting and opens a public hearing on HB 2179.

HB 2179 – PUBLIC HEARING

010

Ray Kelly

Gives brief overview of HB 2179.

033

Jeanette Holman

Assistant Director, Division of State Lands.  Introduces (EXHIBIT F) in support of HB 2179.  Gives background and benefits of this proposed legislation.

080

Rep. Beyer

Asks if there was a line item in the budget or a fund transfer?

083

Holman

Responds to the funding concerns of Rep. Beyer.

096

Chair Kropf

Asks witness how much money we’re talking about in terms of a budget item for Oregon State University (OSU).

100

Holman

Responds that she believes the figure is $100,000.

107

Rep. Nelson

Asks if she has an agreement with OSU to accept this burden

110

Holman

Responds affirmatively.

114

Rep. Nelson

States a desire to see a formal acceptance by OSU.

120

Chair Kropf

Asks what the total budget for the National Heritage Program.

122

Holman

Responds approximately $130,000 plus about $69,000 for federal grants.

131

Dr. Hal Salwasser

Dean of College of Forestry and Interim Director of the Institute of Natural Resources at OSU. Speaks to Rep. Nelson’s concerns about funding.  Affirms support for HB 2179, but does express concern for the wording at Section 3-2F. 

176

Chair Kropf

Asks if funding were not to materialize, how the program would be affected.

185

Dr. Salwasser

Responds that services would be compromised.

193

Nelson

Asks what the assumed cost is at OSU.

202

Dr. Salwasser

States that it is difficult to assess in time, but the tangible cost is approximately $5,000.   

236

Chair Kropf

Closes public hearing on HB 2179.  Adjourns meeting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A - Informational Meeting, written materials, Mike Grainey, 2 pp.

B - Informational Meeting, written materials, Mike Grainey, 14 pp.                  

C - Informational Meeting, written materials, Mike Grainey, 54 pp.

D - Informational Meeting, written materials, Lindsay Ball, 5 pp.

E - Informational Meeting, written materials, Ann Hanus, 17 pp

F - HB 2179, written testimony, Jeannette Holman, 2 pp