HOUSE COMMITTEE ON

AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES

 

 

April 15, 2003 Hearing Room D

1:00 PM Tapes 65 – 66

 

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Jeff Kropf, Chair

Rep. George Gilman, Vice-Chair

Rep. Terry Beyer

Rep. Dave Hunt

Rep. Donna Nelson

Rep. Patti Smith

 

MEMBER ABSENT:                    Rep. Kelley Wirth, Vice-Chair

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Ray Kelly, Committee Administrator

David Peffley, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES HEARD:                     HB 2915 – Reconsideration and Work Session

                                                HB 2344 – Work Session

                                                HB 3152 – Work Session

                                                HB 3264 – Public Hearing

HB 3126 – Work Session

                                                HB 2574 – Work Session

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 65, A

004

Chair Kropf

Calls the meeting to order at 1:21 and opens a work session on          HB 2915.

HB 2915 – RECONSIDERATION AND WORK SESSION

024

Ray Kelly

Committee Administrator.  Explains the process of the reconsideration of HB 2915.

030

Rep. Gilman

MOTION:  Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of reconsidering HB 2915.

032

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Wirth

033

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

036

Rep. Hunt

MOTION:  Moves HB 2915 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on BE RESCINDED.

038

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Wirth

039

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

044

Rep. Nelson

MOTION:  Moves HB 2915 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

045

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Wirth

046

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

047

Rep. Kropf

MOTION:  Moves HB 2915 be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR.

049

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Wirth

050

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

051

Chair Kropf

Closes the work session HB 2915 and opens a work session on            HB 2344.

HB 2344 – WORK SESSION

055

Ray Kelly

Announces the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT A).

080

Ted Lorensen

Department of Forestry (DOF).  Offers support for HB 2344 with the    -2 amendments.

086

Chair Kropf

Explains the effects of the -2 amendments.

102

Bill Kluthing

Western Council of Industrial Workers.  Speaks in favor of HB 2344 as amended in order to return the forest to a healthy state and to help jump start the economy.

126

Rep. P. Smith

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2344-2 amendments dated 4/4/03.

128

 

VOTE:  4-0

EXCUSED:  3 - Nelson, Gilman, Wirth

129

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

136

Rep. P. Smith

MOTION:  Moves HB 2344 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

141

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Wirth

144

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

REP. KROPF AND REP. JENSON will lead discussion on the floor.

154

Chair Kropf

Closes the work session on HB 2344 and opens a work session on       HB 3152.

HB 3152 – WORK SESSION

158

Andy High

Introduces the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT B) and addresses concerns with the legislation and provides how they were alleviated. Affirms no known opposition to the bill.

181

Rep. Beyer

Asks if the Audubon Society finds the amendments acceptable.

183

High

Affirms that they do.

190

Bill Kluthing

Western Council Industry Workers.  Sees long term benefits emanating from this programs and thus supports HB 3152.

208

Rep. Smith

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 3152-1 amendments dated 4/10/03.

214

 

VOTE:  4-0

EXCUSED:  3 - Hunt, Nelson, Wirth

216

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

219

Rep. P. Smith

MOTION:  Moves HB 3152 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

224

 

VOTE:  4-0

EXCUSED:  3 - Hunt, Nelson, Wirth

227

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

KNOPP will lead discussion on the floor.

229

Chair Kropf

Chair closes the work session on HB 3152 and recesses the meeting.

230

Chair Kropf

Reconvenes the meeting and opens a public hearing on HB 3264.

HB 3264 – PUBLIC HEARING

235

Ted Lorensen

Submits (EXHIBIT C), offers background, and testifies in support of HB 3264.  Discusses the proposed amendments to HB 3264. Asserts that plaintiffs may be opposed to this legislation.

340

Chair Kropf

Closes the public hearing on HB 3264 and opens a work session on   HB 3126.

HB 3126 – WORK SESSION

380

Rep. Greg Smith

HD 57. Introduces the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT D) and discusses the bill with the amendments.

TAPE 66, A

008

Glen Stonebrink

States that wolves have more protection than humans do under the Endangered Species Act (ESA).

040

Chair Kropf

Asks for confirmation that the report must be filed within 30 days of disposal.

048

Stonebrink

Clarifies the language for Chair Kropf.

059

Rep. Hunt

Asks about “d” and what it means.

065

Rep. Greg Smith

Explains the situation of a wolf which is not afraid of humans. Adds the disclaimer and points out the passage which states that. 

086

Chair Kropf

Clarifies his understanding of the legislation.

094

Rep. Nelson

Asks for clarification in the bill.

105

Ray Kelly

Explains intent for Rep. Nelson.

117

Rep. Nelson

States that people need to have the right to protect themselves.

133

Rep. Smith

States that they attempted to use the existing language for the purposes of simplification and consensus.

141

Rep. Nelson

Asks for an amendment to address a wider meaning than residence.

153

Rep. Smith

Notes that other structures are not precluded.

162

Stonebrink

States that Oregon is well-covered by this legislation.

174

Rep. Hunt

Asks if ODFW has changed their position based on the amendments.

184

Anglin

Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW).  States that ODFW has not yet had time to review the amendment.

193

Rep. Hunt

Asks if the -1 amendments change any costs associated with implementation.

202

Anglin

Asserts that he doesn’t expect that to be the case.

220

Chair Kropf

Notes that the -1 amendments are of the gut and stuff variety.

226

Ray Kelly

Offers clarification of the -1 amendments for the committee.

244

Chair Kropf

Recesses the meeting.

245

Chair Kropf

Reconvenes the meeting.

246

Anglin

States that he would like to take the amendments back to ODFW and discuss it with the governor’s office.  Hopes to address the bill on Thursday.

268

Chair Kropf

States that he hopes that the bill might be moved on Thursday.  Closes the work session on HB 3126 and opens a work session on HB 2574.

HB 2574 – WORK SESSION

293

Rep. Butler

Discusses the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT E) to HB 2574 in order to address the needs in order to serve the local government.

327

Chair Kropf

Notes that the Senate passed a trapping bill in a similar context.

341

Rod Harder

Discusses the -2 amendments and recommends striking a couple of words in a conceptual amendment.

364

Rep. Butler

Notes that this bill is really about local control.

374

Chair Kropf

Cites a concern that this legislation could lead to the proliferation of many agencies like ODFW.

377

Rep. Butler

Replies that the ODFW would still provide oversight.

405

Chair Kropf

Discusses the jurisdiction of the county wildlife board.

410

Rep. Butler

Discusses the harvest and the county commission as they relate to     HB 2574.

TAPE 65, B

017

Chair Kropf

Asks Rep. Butler to clarify paragraph 2, lines 8-11 in the amendment.

024

Rep. Butler

Gives his understanding that dogs could be used.

027

Harder

Speaks to the five animal annual limit.

033

Chair Kropf

Asks if that is over the present limit.

036

Harder

Affirms Chair Kropf’s assertion and notes that only once has a cougar quota been reached.

040

Chair Kropf

Confirms the intent of the legislation.

044

Rep. Butler

States concerns and notes that local control in this bill would address those concerns.

064

Rep. Hunt

Asks for clarification that manner rather than number is at the crux of the issue.

071

Harder

Notes that it is already legal to use dogs and believes that actual effect of this legislation will be minimal.

084

Rep. Butler

Reasserts that this bill is directed at local involvement.

093

Chair Kropf

Proposes a conceptual amendment regarding Page 2, Line 7.

104

Rep. Hunt

MOTION:  Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of considering the -2 amendments and to further amend HB 2574 with a conceptual amendment.

109

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 – Wirth

112

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

114

Rep. Nelson

MOTION:  Moves to AMEND HB 2574 on page 2, in line 7, after "bears," insert "and," and after "cougars," insert ".

121

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 – Wirth

124

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

132

Rep. Smith

Asks about the fiscal impact of HB 2574.

138

Ray Kelly

Explains that amendment removes the fiscal impact as per Legislative Council.

145

Rep. Smith

Asks why a fiscal impact statement is not necessary.

147

Kelly

Explains that the process of HB 2574 moving through the legislature.

153

Chair Kropf

Reasserts the overall fiscal benefit of this bill.

156

Rep. Gilman

MOTION:  Moves HB 2574 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

160

Rep. Beyer

States that she will be voting no, as her constituents and county commissioners have not noted that there is a problem which needs to be addressed.

170

Rep. Hunt

States that he isn’t a purist as far as local control, and doesn’t think it to be the best policy in this case.

193

Chair Kropf

Affirms that ODFW will still have a large input, despite local control.

206

Rep. Smith

Announces that she will vote yes, but reserves the right to change her vote to no if the fiscal impacts the legislation.

211

 

VOTE:  4-2

AYE:               4 - Gilman, Nelson, Smith P., Kropf

NAY:               2 - Beyer, Hunt

ABSENT:     1 – Wirth

224

Chair Kropf

The motion CARRIES.

REP. BUTLER will lead discussion on the floor.

231

Chair Kropf

Closes the work session on HB 2574 and adjourns the meeting at 3:13.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2344, -2 amendments, staff, 1 p.

B – HB 3152, -1 amendments, staff, 2 pp.

C – HB 3264, written testimony, Ted Lorensen, 3 pp.

D – HB 3126, -1 amendments, Rep. Greg Smith, 4 pp.

E – HB 2574, -2 amendments, staff, 2 pp.