HOUSE COMMITTEE ON

AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES

 

 

April 22, 2003 Hearing Room D

1:00 PM  Tapes 72 - 75

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Jeff Kropf, Chair

Rep. George Gilman, Vice-Chair

Rep. Kelley Wirth, Vice-Chair

Rep. Terry Beyer

Rep. Dave Hunt

Rep. Patti Smith

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:            Rep. Donna Nelson

 

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Ray Kelly, Committee Administrator

David Peffley, Committee Assistant

 

 

MEASURES HEARD:                     Informational Meeting

                                                HB 3264 – Reconsideration and Work Session

                                                HB 2754 – Work Session

                                                HB 3270 – Work Session

                                                HB 3552 – Work Session

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 72, A

003

Chair Kropf

Calls the meeting to order at 1:12 and opens the informational meeting.

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

020

Robert Tse

United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Foreign Agriculture Service (FAS).  Submits (EXHIBIT A) and (EXHIBIT B) and begins a power-point presentation.  Gives an introduction to the US Farm Bill and the benefits to the agricultural community.

145

Chair Kropf

Asks Tse the significance of conducting international transactions in dollars as opposed to local currency.

150

Tse

Responds by addressing the ease of conversion and continues informational testimony on the agricultural trade and the food aid program.

175

Tse

Transitions to information on the Foreign Agricultural Service and its relation to US agricultural trade and the U.S. Farm Bill.

212

Chair Kropf

Asks about the Food for Peace Program as it relates to terrorist nations.

218

Tse

Responds to food assistance in Iraq and its necessity.

227

Chair Kropf

Asks if Food Aid is involved in Afghanistan.

232

Tse

Notes that FAS has administered the financial part of Afghani aid and that it’s separate from the UN programs.

240

Chair Kropf

Asks Tse if other countries are carrying out similar programs.

244

Tse

Notes that there are and states that the Food Aid program goes back to the 1950’s.

250

Chair Kropf

Asks if ODA could work toward establishing food aid programs with other countries.

252

Tse

Replies that they could work with FAS in providing food aid.

255

Chair Kropf

Asks how this would be accomplished.

258

Tse

Continues with the discussion of the relations with overseas agricultural trade offices and the USDA’s International Trade Policy.

307

Chair Kropf

Asks what FAS’s role is in the importation and exportation of agricultural products.

318

Tse

Responds to their role and the historical facilitation of foodstuffs between America and abroad. Also notes that USDA and FAS works on relieving trade barriers.  Continues by highlighting technical requirements such as additives, labels, and pesticides.

410

Tse

Highlights export financing and insurance. 

TAPE 73, A

010

Tse

Continues with a global perspective on US agriculture and the importance of exports.  

080

Chair Kropf

Asks what percentage of our wheat is exported.

085

John Szczepanski

Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA).  States that he doesn’t have those figures but will get them in the near future.

092

Tse

Talks of the challenge of United States agriculture and the diversification of crops over the past twenty-five years.

131

Chair Kropf

Asks why it is that pet food is the largest growing agricultural export.

135

Tse

Responds that it’s a reflection of the growth of a middle class throughout the world.

170

Tse

Continues with quarter century global trends.

330

Chair Kropf

Affirms the value of foreign agriculture and the US Farm Bill’s part in the program.

355

Szczepanski

Submits (EXHIBIT C) and highlights the significance of exporting for Oregon agriculture. Notes that 80% of Oregon agriculture leaves Oregon and 45% leaves the country. 

TAPE 72, B

004

Szczepanski

Continues with Oregon agriculture exports to the Pacific Rim.

010

Chair Kropf

Asks for confirmation that Japan desires to extend their policy of bar-coding beef to any imported beef.

016

Szczepanski

Affirms that is the case.  Continues by discussing grass seed and seafood exports to Asia and how they bring jobs to the region.  Talks about the change in marketing and takes a look ahead at the future of agriculture in the Pacific Rim. 

080

Chair Kropf

Asks if the Korean policy of quarantining cattle only applies to Oregon or whether it applies for all imports.

082

Szczepanski

Notes that it is standard for any cattle.

087

Chair Kropf

Asks Tse how soon federal dollars became available from the Farm Bill.

094

Tse

Notes that the money is just becoming available.  Addresses the funding and dedication of the funding.

117

Chair Kropf

Addresses his experience in negotiating for inclusion to the current Farm Bill.  Encourages committee members to be active in policy recommendations and that traveling to DC is time and money well-spent.

163

Chair Kropf

Closes the informational hearing and opens a reconsideration and work session on HB 3264.

HB 3264 –RECONSIDERATION AND WORK SESSION

161

Rep. Hunt

MOTION:  Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of reconsidering HB 3264.

163

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Nelson

165

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

167

Rep. Hunt

MOTION:  Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which HB 3264 passed to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

169

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Nelson

170

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

177

Ray Kelly

Addresses the -2 amendments as previously discussed, (EXHIBIT D).

190

Lanny Quakenbush

Forest Practices Program Policy Manager, Oregon Department of Forestry (ODF).  Notes that there are no major concerns and the minor concerns can be addressed in the Senate.

202

Ray Wilkinson

States that he hopes that this will move forward today.

209

Greg Kline

Forest Practices Director, ODF.  States appreciation to the committee for moving the bill forward.

213

Rep. Wirth

Asks what kind of written plan is required under current law.

220

Kline

Addresses the circumstances under which such a plan would be required.

223

Rep. Wirth

Asks about the effects or the amendments.

225

Wilkinson

Addresses the effects and notes that no substantive changes have taken effect.

238

Rep. Wirth

Asks if any approval at all would be required under the amended bill.

242

Wilkinson

Avows that no approval would be required.

253

Rep. Smith

Asks if the amendments are taking away the approval of the state forester.

264

Kline

States that she is referring to a different situation.

267

Rep. Wirth

Asks the effects of taking out the word written.

276

Kline

Notes that the plan could be oral.

283

Kelly

Offers clarification of the language in the amendment.

306

Rep. Gilman

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 3264-2 amendments dated 4/22/03.

307

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Nelson

308

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

312

Rep. Gilman

MOTION:  Moves HB 3264 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

317

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Nelson

319

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

REP. KROPF will lead discussion on the floor.

326

Chair Kropf

Closes the work session on HB 3264 and opens a work session on     HB 2754.

HB 2754 – WORK SESSION

342

Glen Stonebrink

Oregon Cattlemen Association (OCA).  Testifies that OCA does not oppose HB 2754, but expresses concerns with the legislation which he hopes other witnesses will address.

419

Rep. Wirth

Asks if the committee has received information on conservation easements as they relate to HB 2754.

425

John McDonald

Director, Oregon Association of Conservation Districts.  Addresses Rep. Wirth’s concerns with regard to conservation easements and submits (EXHIBIT E) and testifies in favor of HB 2754.

TAPE 73, B

004

McDonald

Continues testimony by addressing conservation easements.  Speaks to conservation plans and their relationship to the land owner.

142

Chuck Craig

ODA.  Discusses ODA’s authority regarding conservation easements.  Addresses long-range planning.

205

Jim Johnson

Addresses the highway scenic easement section of HB 2754.

230

Rep. Wirth

Confirms the intent of legislation regarding scenic easement.

238

Chair Kropf

Asks whether ODA feels that they have the flexibility to make sure conservation easements do what they’re intended to do.

261

Craig

ODA.  Affirms ODA’s commitment to the sensitivity of their constituents.  Asserts that ODA has the greatest concerns for the landowner and the resources of the land.

280

McDonald

Reaffirms Craig’s assertions.

321

Rep. Hunt

Asks if a landowner could acquire a piece of land that already has an easement on it.

332

McDonald

Responds that districts have always had the authority to hold property and easements.

343

Craig

Speaks to conservation easements as belonging to a unique class of easements.

362

Rep. Smith

Asks what the process would be if public access were allowed.

372

McDonald

States that the process and those rights would be just like those for private property.

384

Rep. Smith

Asks the purpose for the public hearing process and whether it truly matters.

406

Jim Geisinger

States that nothing changes during the easement process.  States that public meeting provisions are still in place and aren’t changed by the easement.

438

Rep. Smith

Asks how much districts would charge for their services.

443

McDonald

Replies that it would vary based upon a myriad of factors.

TAPE 74, A

002

Leo Preston

USDA Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS).  Submits (EXHIBIT F) and testifies in favor of HB 2754.  Informs the committee of the role of NRCS in working with districts providing assistance to farmers and ranchers.

066

Chair Kropf

Cites Stonebrink’s concerns and asks Preston whether he believes this bill leaves enough flexibility.

075

Preston

States that he believes that it does and is comfortable with the bill.

081

Rep. Hunt

MOTION:  Moves HB 2754 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

083

Rep. Smith

Asks about the fiscal impact of HB 2754.

090

Ray Kelly

Affirms that there is a minimal fiscal impact.

093

Rep. Smith

Asks whether local counties have testified as to loss of tax revenue.

096

Ray Kelly

Committee Administrator.  States that they have not.

098

Rep. Gilman

Asserts that he will give the bill a courtesy vote to get it out of committee, but adds that he will vote against it on the floor.

101

Rep. Beyer

States that she will vote yes.

105

Rep. Wirth

States that this bill will be protected by a cap and will vote yes.

110

Chair Kropf

States that he’s uneasy with conservation easements, but sees them as a lesser of two evils.

117

 

VOTE:  5-1

AYE:               5 - Beyer, Gilman, Hunt, Wirth, Kropf

NAY:               1 - Smith P.

EXCUSED:     1 - Nelson

126

Chair Kropf

The motion CARRIES.

Rep. Wirth will lead discussion on the floor.

136

Chair Kropf

Closes the work session on HB 2754 and opens a work session on           HB 3270.

HB 3270 – WORK SESSION

144

Ray Kelly

Summarizes HB 3270 and the -3 amendments (EXHIBIT G).  Notes the subsequent referral to ways and means.

174

Glen Stonebrink

Testifies to the -3 amendments and that they have been watered down from their original form.  Urges support for the passage of HB 3270. 

220

Ron Fox

Manager, Business and Industry Team, Oregon Economic Computer Development Team. Talks about the merging of the bill with the           -3 amendments.

253

Dalton Hobbs

Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA).  Affirms that the                  -3 amendments appropriately reflect the sentiments of the work group.

280

Fox

Concurs with Hobbs with regard to the commission as noted in the        -3 amendments.

300

Chair

States his intention to make any further amendments on the Senate side.

320

Stonebrink

Speaks to the idea of giving money or products back in exchange for a tax benefit.

330

Chair Kropf

Addresses the concept of offering food to society.

355

Hobbs

Notes a scheduled meeting between food producers and the governor to address donating food for charity. 

369

Rep. Beyer

Asks for a definition of priority consideration and asks if there is a precedent in the state for its inclusion.

377

Fox

States that he isn’t familiar with that term.

390

Stonebrink

Notes that he is familiar with the term and gives an example of how it works.

410

Chair Kropf

Adds that this is slated for a four-year trial, not necessarily to continue in perpetuity.

417

Fox

Addresses business loan and assistance programs.

440

Chair Kropf

Asks about dollar limitations and whether they should be applied.

445

Fox

Notes that loan limits are defined in particular programs.

TAPE 75, A

013

Chair Kropf

Confirms the limits and ceilings built into the loan programs.

016

Fox

Affirms that is correct.

021

Rep. Hunt

Asks if this is creating a new category or new status.

030

Fox

Affirms that priority consideration would not be disadvantageous to other programs.

054

Rep. Hunt

Asks about the possibility of preferential treatment.

067

Hobbs

Speaks to targeted focused activities in negating Rep. Hunt’s worries.

103

Chair Kropf

Closes the work session on HB 3270 and opens a work session on      HB 3552.

HB 3552 – WORK SESSION

100

Ray Kelly

Summarizes the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT H).

107

Kristina McNitt

Oregon Small Woodlands Association.  Testifies to HB 3552 and the    -2 amendments. States that if more changes are necessary, they can be addressed on the senate side.

142

Rep. Gilman

Asks about the ten percent which was included in the original bill.

144

McNitt

Speaks to the ten percent threshold in the original bill and the conservation fund part.  Notes that outcomes have not been specified.

151

Rep. Wirth

States that she would support the revision.

166

Kelly

Confirms that there is a subsequent referral to ways and means.

170

McNitt

Gives her opinion that in fact there is no fiscal impact on the bill.

193

Chair Kropf

Recommends amending the bill in ways and means, but believes that there will be a significant expense included.

200

Fox

Recommends moving the bill forward.

202

Chair Kropf

Asserts that she hopes to avoid the backlog in ways and means.

212

McNitt

Asks for confirmation of Chair Kropf’s concerns regarding a conceptual amendment.

220

Ray Kelly

Committee Administrator.  States that the Clerk’s office is disallowing any conceptual amendments.

224

Rep. Smith

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 3552-2 amendments dated 4/21/03.

226

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Nelson

228

Chair Kropf

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

232

Rep. Smith

MOTION:  Moves HB 3552 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

235

Rep. Wirth

Cites McNitt’s concerns and states that she will vote no based on those concerns, but asserts that she will vote for it on the floor providing that the concerns are addressed in Ways and Means.

256

 

VOTE:  5-1

AYE:               5 - Beyer, Gilman, Hunt, Smith P., Kropf

NAY:               1 - Wirth

EXCUSED:     1 - Nelson

259

Chair Kropf

The motion CARRIES.

263

Chair Kropf

Closes the work session on HB 3552 and adjourns the meeting at           3:58 P.M.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – Informational materials, Robert Tse, 18 pp.

B – Informational materials, Robert Tse, 29 pp.

C – Informational materials, John Szczepanski, 9 pp.

D – HB 3264, -2 amendments, staff, 17 pp.

E – HB 2754, written materials, John McDonald, 2 pp.

F – HB 2754, written materials, Leo Preston, 1 p.

G – HB 3270, -3 amendments, staff, 3 pp.

H – HB 3552, -2 amendments, staff, 2 pp.