HOUSE COMMITTEE ON

BUSINESS, LABOR AND CONSUMER AFFAIRS

 

 

February 24, 2003   Hearing Room E

8:30 A.M. Tapes  36 - 37

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Betsy Close, Chair

Rep. Derrick Kitts, Vice-Chair

Rep. Diane Rosenbaum, Vice-Chair

Rep. Mary Gallegos

Rep. Bill Garrard

Rep. Jeff Merkley

Rep. Mike Schaufler

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Megan Palau, Committee Administrator

Mike Reiley, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 2623 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2447 – Public Hearing

HB 2564 – Public Hearing

                                                Committee Measure Introduction – Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 36, A

003

Chair Close

Calls meeting to order at 8:34 a.m. Opens public hearing on HB 2623.

HB 2623 – PUBLIC HEARING

010

Megan Palau

Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2623.

021

Shawn Miller

Liberty Northwest Insurance Corporation. Testifies in support of HB 2623.

031

Jim McKittrick

Executive Vice-President, Chief Financial Officer, Liberty Northwest Insurance Corporation. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2623 (EXHIBIT A).

067

Rep. Schaufler

Asks about size of depositary regulations.

079

McKittrick

Explains size of depositary regulations.

107

Rep. Schaufler

Asks about ability of insurance companies to pay claims in event of catastrophic event.

118

McKittrick

Explains investment regulations.

124

Rep. Garrard

Asks about debt and depositary regulations for insurance companies.

133

McKittrick

Explains changes proposed by HB 2623.

144

Chair Close

Closes public hearing on HB 2623. Opens work session on HB 2623.

 

HB 2623 – WORK SESSION

150

Megan Palau

Committee Administrator. Explains amendments.

 

Rep. Kitts

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2623-1 amendments dated 2/19/03 (EXHIBIT B).

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 – Rosenbaum

 

Chair Close

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

 

Rep. Kitts

MOTION:  Moves HB 2623 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Rosenbaum

 

Chair Close

The motion CARRIES.

REP. GALLEGOS will lead discussion on the floor.

176

Chair Close

Closes work session on HB 2623. Opens public hearing on HB 2447.

HB 2447 – PUBLIC HEARING

178

Megan Palau

Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2447.

183

John Endicott

Business Manager, Plumbers & Steamfitters, Local 290. Testifies in support of HB 2447.

204

Chair Close

Asks about potential safety issues regarding wearing licenses.

210

Endicott

Explains safety considerations regarding licensing.

220

Rep. Garrard

Asks who will pay for provisions of HB 2447.

222

Endicott

Explains who will be responsible for licensing and displaying them.

230

Rep. Garrard

Asks about magnitude of issue of misrepresentation.

233

Endicott

Explains issue of misrepresentation.

240

Rep. Garrard

Asks if inspectors could have license available, if not necessarily visible.

243

Endicott

Explains benefit of having license visible.

250

Rep. Kitts

Asks about responsibility of those doing hiring to check licenses.

258

Endicott

Explains that it is easier to have licenses visible.

264

Rep. Schaufler

Asks if visible identification is example of industry policing itself.

270

Endicott

Answers yes.

276

Ken Carlson

Chief Plumbing Inspector, City of Portland. Testifies in support of HB 2447.

334

Rep. Garrard

Asks about penalties for non-compliance.

337

Carlson

Explains compliance issue.

360

Chair Close

Asks about compliance.

362

Carlson

Explains importance of compliance issue.

385

Rep. Kitts

Asks about fraud in licensing process.

395

Carlson

Responds that fraud is not significant issue.

TAPE 37, A

007

Rep. Kitts

Expresses concern about penalties for non-compliance.

010

Carlson

Explains that he does not believe penalties would be too severe.

020

Rep. Gallegos

Asks about cost of badge replacement.

022

Carlson

Explains badge replacement process.

052

Rep. Schaufler

States support for HB 2447.

071

Rep. Rosenbaum

Asks about measures taken to address misrepresentation.

073

Carlson

Explains measures taken to address misrepresentation.

082

Rep. Rosenbaum

Asks about taking action against unlicensed workers.

086

Carlson

Explains action taken against licensed workers.

095

Shawn Miller

Associated Builders and Contractors, Independent Electrical Contractors of Oregon. Testifies to compliance and security regarding HB 2447. Explains issues regarding HB 2447.

173

Rep. Kitts

Asks for clarification of displaying badge or license.

180

Miller

Clarifies displaying of license.

199

Mark Long

Administrator, Building Codes Division. Testifies to work to be done on HB 2447. Notes possibility of work group to address issue.

215

Rep. Schaufler

Expresses desire for plumbers to address issue independently rather than spend money on issue.

220

Chair Close

Asks about cost of process.

222

Long

Explains potential costs.

238

Amanda Rich

Testifies to concerns regarding HB 2447.

260

Chair Close

Closes public hearing on HB 2447. Opens public hearing on HB 2564.

HB 2564 – PUBLIC HEARING

264

Megan Palau

Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2564.

273

Ron Murray

United Association of Plumber & Steamfitters, Local 290. Testifies in support of HB 2564.

332

Chair Close

Asks about filing liens.

336

Murray

Explains process of filing liens.

357

Ken Carlson

Chief Plumbing Inspector, City of Portland. Testifies in support of HB 2564. Explains that bill would streamline process.

376

Amanda Rich

Oregon Association of Plumbing, Heating and Cooling Contractors (PHCC). Testifies in support of HB 2564. Explains goals to streamline application process.

400

John Killin

Director of Government Affairs, Associated Builders and Contractors. Testifies in support of HB 2564.

418

Chair Close

Closes public hearing on HB 2564. Opens work session on Introduction of Committee Measures.

TAPE 36, B

WORK SESSION – COMMITTEE MEASURE INTRODUCTION

003

Rep. Gallegos

MOTION:  Moves LC's:  1809, 1880, 1880-1, 1881 BE INTRODUCED as committee bills (EXHIBIT C).

010

Rep. Schaufler

Expresses reservations on introducing all LC’s in one motion.

015

Rep. Gallegos

Withdraws motion.

 

Rep. Gallegos

MOTION:  Moves LC 1809 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Close

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

 

Rep. Gallegos

MOTION:  Moves LC 1880 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill.

029

Rep. Schaufler

Expresses concern about LC 1880.

033

Rep. Merkley

Clarifies LC introduction process.

048

Chair Close

Offers further clarification of LC introduction process.

 

 

VOTE:  6-1

AYE:               6 - Gallegos, Garrard, Kitts, Merkley, Rosenbaum, Close

NAY:               1 - Schaufler

 

Chair Close

The motion CARRIES.

 

Rep. Gallegos

MOTION:  Moves LC's:  1880-1, 1881 BE INTRODUCED as committee bills.

 

 

VOTE:  6-1

AYE:               6 - Gallegos, Garrard, Kitts, Merkley, Rosenbaum, Close

NAY:               1 - Schaufler

 

Chair Close

The motion CARRIES.

064

Chair Close

Closes work session. Adjourns meeting at 9:35 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2623, prepared testimony, Jim McKittrick, 2 pp

B – HB 2623, -1 amendment, staff, 1 p

C – LC 1809, 1880, 1880-1, 1881, staff, 10 pp