HOUSE COMMITTEE ON

BUSINESS, LABOR AND CONSUMER AFFAIRS

 

 

March 05, 2003   Hearing Room E

8:30 A.M. Tapes  46 - 48

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Betsy Close, Chair

Rep. Diane Rosenbaum, Vice-Chair

Rep. Mary Gallegos

Rep. Bill Garrard

Rep. Jeff Merkley

Rep. Mike Schaufler

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:            Rep. Derrick Kitts, Vice-Chair

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Megan Palau, Committee Administrator

Mike Reiley, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            SB 321 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2389 – Work Session

HB 2249 – Work Session

                                                HB 2639 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 2714 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 2718 – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 46, A

002

Chair Close

Calls meeting to order at 8:33 a.m. Opens public hearing on SB 321.

SB 321 – PUBLIC HEARING

012

Megan Palau

Committee Administrator. Summarizes SB 321.

015

Rep. Joanne Verger

House District 9. Testifies in support of SB 321.

048

Rep. Wayne Krieger

House District 1. Testifies in support of SB 321.

060

Sen. Ken Messerle

Senate District 5. Testifies in support of SB 321.

075

Rep. Schaufler

Asks about employment opportunities in the region due to pipeline project.

077

Rep. Verger

Explains that employment is improving in the region.

099

Sen. Messerle

Explains employment opportunities that exist in the region and those that may come to be.

110

Chair Close

Asks for figures of Coos County unemployment.

115

Sen. Messerle

Answers that it is generally 2% above state average, but he does not have specific figures.

125

Lee Beyer

Commissioner, Oregon Public Utility Commission. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of SB 321 (EXHIBIT A).

151

Gary Bauer

Northwest Natural. Testifies in support of SB 321. Clarifies nature of pipeline project.

160

Rep. Rosenbaum

Asks when construction will be completed.

162

Bauer

Explains plans and timeframe for project.

170

Rep. Rosenbaum

Asks if new jobs will be created.

174

Bauer

Explains employment associated with pipeline project.

180

Chair Close

Closes public hearing on SB 321. Opens work session on SB 321.

SB 321 – WORK SESSION

182

Rep. Gallegos

MOTION:  Moves SB 321 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Kitts

 

Chair Close

The motion CARRIES.

REP. VERGER AND REP. KRIEGER will lead discussion on the floor.

190

Chair Close

Closes work session on SB 321. Opens work session on HB 2389.

HB 2389 – WORK SESSION

200

Megan Palau

Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2389 and -2 amendment (EXHIBIT B).

221

Scott Barrie

Oregon Building Industry Association. Testifies in support of HB 2389.

227

Rep. Merkley

Asks if time considerations could jeopardize claim.

234

Barrie

Explains time considerations and process for filing claims.

250

Rep. Garrard

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2389-2 amendments dated 2/28/03.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Kitts

 

Chair Close

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

255

Rep. Garrard

MOTION:  Moves HB 2389 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

260

Rep. Merkley

Expresses support and notes concerns regarding HB 2389.

324

Rep. Schaufler

Expresses support for HB 2389.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Kitts

 

Chair Close

The motion CARRIES.

REP. GARRARD will lead discussion on the floor.

340

Chair Close

Closes work session on HB 2389. Opens work session on HB 2249.

HB 2249 – WORK SESSION

345

Megan Palau

Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2249 and -2 amendment (EXHIBIT C).

385

Stacy Warner

Fire and Life Safety Services Manager, Office of State Fire Marshal Division, Oregon State Police. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2249 and -2 amendments (EXHIBIT D).

399

Chair Close

Asks for explanation of Medicaid match funding.

400

Warner

Explains Medicaid match funding.

405

Rep. Rosenbaum

Asks why Medicare and Medicaid facilities are exempted from inspection.

410

Warner

Explains exemptions.

415

Rep. Rosenbaum

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2249-2 amendments dated 3/3/03.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

EXCUSED:  1 - Kitts

 

Chair Close

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

420

Rep. Rosenbaum

MOTION:  Moves HB 2249 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 – Kitts

 

Chair Close

The motion CARRIES.

460

Chair Close

Closes work session on HB 2249. Opens public hearing on HB 2639.

TAPE 47, A

HB 2639 – PUBLIC HEARING

030

Megan Palau

Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2639.

040

Harlan Levy

Staff Attorney, Oregon Association of Realtors. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2639 (EXHIBIT E).

111

Chair Close

Asks about opposition to HB 2639.

112

Levy

Answers that he is unsure why there would be opposition.

118

Rep. Merkley

Asks who keeps interest from fund.

120

Levy

Answers that interest goes to the banks.

122

Rep. Merkley

Asks if fund owners accrue interest.

125

Levy

Explains provisions regarding interest on funds.

130

Rep. Merkley

Asks for additional clarification.

135

Levy

Offers clarification.

145

Rep. Schaufler

Asks about success of similar program in Colorado.

148

Levy

Explains success of Colorado program.

152

Rep. Schaufler

Asks if Colorado program would be similarly successful in Oregon.

155

Levy

Answers yes.

160

Rep. Merkley

Asks if interest in Colorado program would go to home ownership fund or to brokers.

162

Levy

Answers that it is voluntary.

164

Rep. Merkley

Asks what percentage of transactions participate in home ownership fund.

166

Levy

Answers that he does not know.

175

Gary Conkling

Oregon Home. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of concept of HB 2639 (EXHIBIT F).

235

Stewart Branam

Legislative Chair, Oregon Disability Commission. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2639 (EXHIBIT G).

260

Chair Close

Discusses Oregon housing crisis and potential for implementing fees.

280

Rep. Schaufler

Asks if HB 2639 would interfere with other attempts to address housing issues.

285

Conkling

Answers that it would not. Expresses concern that it would be viewed by some as an entire solution.

290

Michael Anderson

Community Development Network. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2639 (EXHIBIT H).

325

Rep. Garrard

States that HB 2639 is a step toward addressing the housing issue.

330

Anderson

Concurs. Explains magnitude of housing problem.

345

Rep. Merkley

Suggests that proponents examine Colorado program to further address issue.

360

Jack Kenny

Deputy Director, Oregon Housing and Community Services Department. Submits prepared information and testifies on HB 2639 (EXHIBIT I).

410

John Blatt

Executive Director, Association of Oregon Community Development Organizations. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of concept of HB 2639 (EXHIBIT J).

TAPE 46, B

023

Ian Slingerland

Community Alliance of Tenants. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of concept of HB 2639 (EXHIBIT K).

070

Chair Close

Comments on housing crisis and potential for home ownership fees.

080

Rep. Rosenbaum

Discusses legislation addressing housing crisis. Asks for clarification of language in HB 2639.

085

Blatt

Responds that amendments to address concerns may be warranted.

090

Rep. Merkley

Asks about flexibility for interest to be channeled into home ownership fund.

100

Blatt

Answers that specific issue has not been directly addressed.

105

Rep. Merkley

Asks about appropriation of funds.

108

Blatt

Explains public benefit corporations.

110

Rep. Garrard

Asks about provisions regarding low-income and first time home buyers.

115

Blatt

Explains median income qualifications.

120

Rep. Schaufler

States that HB 2639 is step in right direction. Comments on impact of transfer tax on home ownership.

135

Jack Munro

Oregon Land Title Association. Testifies in support of concept of HB 2639. Offers clarification of provisions of HB 2639.

191

Randy Tucker

1000 Friends of Oregon. Testifies in support of concept of HB 2639 and explains concerns.

231

Rep. Merkley

Asks for clarification of appropriation of interest in accounts.

233

Munro

Explains provisions regarding account interest.

247

Rep. Merkley

Ask about benefiting from interest.

252

Munro

Clarifies nature of interest on accounts.

265

Jana Jarvis

Oregon Association of Realtors. Testifies in support of HB 2639.

319

Levy

Clarifies figures from previous testimony.

327

Rep. Gallegos

Asks about ability to provide funding to other organizations through HB 2639.

338

Jarvis

Explains intentions for HB 2639.

344

Rep. Merkley

Expresses support for work done on HB 2639.

374

Jarvis

Explains interest bearing account provisions.

The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony for HB 2639:

 

Jennifer Henderson

Submits prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2639 (EXHIBIT L).

390

Chair Close

Closes public hearing on HB 2639.

395

Vice-Chair Rosenbaum

Opens public hearing on HB 2714.

TAPE 47, B

HB 2714 – PUBLIC HEARING

400

Megan Palau

Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2714.

005

Jerod Broadfoot

Oregon Chapter, National Electrical Contractors Association. Testifies in support of HB 2714. Explains that term “demolition” should be eliminated from bill and states that amendments will be forthcoming.

021

Rep. Schaufler

Asks for clarification of language.

026

Rep. Merkley

Asks for additional clarification of language.

038

Rick Thomas

Executive Director, Independent Electrical Contractors of Oregon. Testifies in support of HB 2714 and proposed amendments.

049

Mike Van Laere

Steelworkers Union Local 7150. Testifies in opposition to HB 2714.

060

Rep. Schaufler

Asks if Mr. Van Laere’s co-workers are licensed electricians.

062

Van Laere

Answers yes. Explains concerns about HB 2714.

071

Jerry Schmidt

Oregon Groundwater Association. Testifies and expresses concerns regarding HB 2714.

091

Vice-Chair Rosenbaum

Closes public hearing on HB 2714. Opens public hearing on HB 2718.

HB 2718 – PUBLIC HEARING

095

Jerod Broadfoot

Oregon Chapter, National Electrical Contractors Association. Testifies in support of HB 2718.

105

Tim Nicol

International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) Local 280. Testifies in support of HB 2718.

157

Rep. Schaufler

Asks if IBEW is willing to work with workers to obtain certification to avoid workers being dislocated.

162

Nicol

Explains situations in which workers perform duties different than their certifications.

172

Rep. Schaufler

States desire to protect workers and help them comply with changing regulations.

180

Nicol

Responds that industry provides training and continuing education.

184

Rep. Garrard

Asks if FCC licensing requirements affect provisions of HB 2718.

200

Nicol

Explains provisions of federal law and HB 2718.

208

Rep. Merkley

Asks how long laws have been in effect.

211

Nicol

States that he is unsure, but information can be obtained.

218

Rep. Merkley

Asks if there have been accidents or if HB 2718 is preventive.

227

Broadfoot

Explains provisions and intentions of HB 2718.

245

Vice-Chair Rosenbaum

Asks for clarification of 480-volt provision in HB 2718.

250

Nicol

Gives explanation of electrical systems.

268

Vice-Chair Rosenbaum

Asks why provision is 480-vole instead of 600-volt.

271

Nicol

Answers that he does not know.

277

Broadfoot

Offers clarification.

280

Vice-Chair Rosenbaum

Asks if Electrical Board has taken position on issue.

285

Nicol

Explains position of Electrical Board.

299

Bill Kluting

Western Council of Industrial Workers. Testifies in opposition to HB 2718.

380

Rep. Garrard

Asks about journeyman provisions and present law.

387

Kluting

Explains work and licensing provisions.

415

Rep. Rosenbaum

Offers clarification of changes to statute.

420

Rep. Garrard

Asks about maximum voltage to ground allowed with limited maintenance license.

425

Kluting

Answers that there is currently no limit.

430

Rep. Merkley

Asks about laws requiring machinery to be turned off before work is done on it.

435

Kluting

Answers that there are strict laws that require machinery to be turned off.

TAPE 48, A

004

Rep. Merkley

Notes similarities and differences between United States and European electrical systems.

022

Rep. Schaufler

Asks about education needed to meet requirements.

035

Kluting

Explains requirements for different licenses.

052

Lee King

Licensed electrician, Wah Chang. Testifies in opposition to HB 2718 and explains objections.

079

Mike Van Laere

Steelworkers Union Local 7150. Testifies in opposition to HB 2718.

122

Rep. Garrard

Asks for opinion of intent of HB 2718.

125

King

Believes based on language it is to eliminate jobs.

129

Rep. Merkley

Asks about magnitude of voltage addressed by HB 2718.

137

King

Explains magnitude of voltage.

145

Merkley

Asks for further clarification of provisions addressing voltage and amperage.

150

King

Explains nature of voltage and amperage.

172

Rep. Garrard

Asks if potential danger still exists even if machinery is turned off.

175

King

Answers yes.

182

Broadfoot

Explains that the intent of HB 2718 is safety.

200

Vice-Chair Rosenbaum

Closes public hearing on HB 2718. Adjourns meeting at 10:43 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 321, written testimony, Lee Beyer, 2 p

B – HB 2389, -2 amendment, staff, 10 pp

C – HB 2249, -2 amendment, staff, 1 p

D – HB 2249, written testimony, Stacy Warner, 1 p

E – HB 2639, written testimony and information, Harlan Levy, 3 pp

F – HB 2639, written testimony, Gary Conkling, 2 pp

G – HB 2639, written testimony, Stewart Branam, 1 p

H – HB 2639, written testimony, Michael Anderson, 2 pp

I – HB 2639, written information, Jack Kenny, 3 pp

J – HB 2639, written testimony and information, John Blatt, 7 pp

K – HB 2639, written testimony, Ian Slingerland, 2 pp

L – HB 2639, written testimony, Jennifer Henderson, 1 p