HOUSE COMMITTEE ON

BUSINESS, LABOR AND CONSUMER AFFAIRS

 

 

March 24, 2003   Hearing Room E

8:30 A.M. Tapes  68 - 69

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Betsy Close, Chair

Rep. Derrick Kitts, Vice-Chair

Rep. Diane Rosenbaum, Vice-Chair

Rep. Mary Gallegos

Rep. Bill Garrard

Rep. Jeff Merkley

Rep. Mike Schaufler

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Patrick Brennan, Committee Administrator

Mike Reiley, Committee Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 2967 – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 68, A

002

Chair Close

Calls meeting to order at 8:35 a.m. Opens public hearing on HB 2967.

HB 2967 – PUBLIC HEARING

025

Patrick Brennan

Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2967.

032

J.L. Wilson

National Federation of Independent Businesses. Testifies in support of HB 2967.

048

Norm Proctor

Region 10 Advocate, United States Small Business Administration (SBA). Testifies in support of HB 2967. Explains potential impact of HB 2967 on small business regulations.

162

Chair Close

Asks for clarification of money saved by SBA.

164

Proctor

Clarifies amount of money saved.

166

Rep. Garrard

Asks how HB 2967 would affect Endangered Species Act.

169

Wilson

States that he will address it later in his testimony.

172

Rep. Schaufler

Asks for clarification of HB 2967 and its effect on regulation.

189

Wilson

States that he will address it later in his testimony.

192

Rep. Merkley

Asks about problems with current provisions in statute.

204

Wilson

Explains that certain statutes are not being adhered to. Offers overview of HB 2967 and its effect on small business regulation.

357

Chair Close

Asks for difference between judicial review in HB 2967 and current statute.

361

Wilson

Explains difference between them and clarifies language.

TAPE 69, A

005

Rep. Kitts

Expresses support for HB 2967.

012

Wilson

Notes that HB 2967 is not intended to subvert regulatory goals. Explains relationship between government agencies and private sector.

053

Rep. Gallegos

Asks about role of Oregon Economic and Community Development Department (OECDD).

060

Wilson

Explains role of OECDD.

063

Rep. Gallegos

Asks about distribution of regulatory burden.

071

Wilson

Explains importance of HB 2967.

084

Rep. Merkley

Asks about fiscal impact.

087

Brennan

Explains that there may be fiscal impact forthcoming.

094

Rep. Merkley

Asks about regulatory oversight.

106

Wilson

States that he is open to changing language if necessary.

115

Rep. Rosenbaum

Asks about rulemaking and its effect on funding.

128

Wilson

Clarifies nature of rulemaking and funding.

136

Chair Close

Notes that federal override is commonly used.

138

Rep. Rosenbaum

Asks for clarification of adverse impact language.

145

Wilson

Explains adverse economic impact effect on small business.

166

Rep. Garrard

Expresses skepticism that HB 2967 will achieve desired intent.

177

Wilson

Explains importance of judicial review.

200

Rep. Schaufler

Expresses concern about language and notes frustration about regulation.

234

Wilson

Explains intent for HB 2967.

268

Eric Blackledge

Governor’s Small Business Council. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2967 (EXHIBIT A).

436

Chair Close

Expresses support and future intent for HB 2967.

TAPE 68, B

014

Patrick Allen

Manager, Office of Regulatory Streamlining, Department of Consumer and Business Services. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2967 (EXHIBIT B).

072

Chair Close

Notes contrast between timber industry and small businesses. Asks about enforcement and judicial review.

084

Allen

Explains issues related to judicial review.

107

Chair Close

Asks about compliance and enforcement.

113

Allen

Explains compliance and enforcement.

128

Mike Burton

Assistant Director, OECDD. Explains procedure regarding small business regulations.

180

Rep. Rosenbaum

Asks for explanation of adverse effect on small business and how to apply objective standards to subjective situations.

190

Burton

Explains small business and relationship to government regulation.

212

Rep. Schaufler

Notes that regulation can have adverse impact on government as well as businesses.

238

Rep. Gallegos

Expresses concern about role of OECDD.

259

Chair Close

Asks for clarification of agency involvement in legislation.

260

Allen

Offers clarification.

261

Chair Close

Asks if there are competing agencies involved.

262

Allen

Offers additional clarification.

263

Chair Close

Asks if it could have gone either way.

264

Burton

Addresses intent of legislation and proponents of HB 2967.

283

Terry Witt

Executive Director, Oregonians for Food and Shelter. Testifies in support of HB 2967.

398

Rep. Schaufler

Asks for clarification of example in testimony of Mr. Witt regarding regulation compliance.

TAPE 69, B

002

Witt

Clarifies compliance example.

011

Rep. Schaufler

Asks if compliance man hours involved are annual or one-time.

013

Witt

Explains that they are annual and explains regulatory impact.

032

Chair Close

Asks about possibility of having agencies contact business to determine economic and labor impacts before doing analysis.

036

Witt

Explains possibility of contacting businesses before analysis.

050

Chair Close

Closes public hearing on HB 2967. Adjourns meeting at 10:02 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2967, written testimony, Eric Blackledge, 2 pp

B – HB 2967, written testimony, Patrick Allen, 2 pp