HOUSE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION

 

 

January 24, 2003   Hearing Room E

1:00 PM     Tapes  7 - 8

 

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Vic Backlund, Chair

Rep. Pat Farr, Vice-Chair

Rep. Elaine Hopson, Vice-Chair

Rep. Brad Avakian

Rep. Billy Dalto

Rep. Mary Nolan

Rep. Wayne Scott

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Jim Keller, Administrator

Jeana Harrington, Administrative Support

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            Informational Meeting

Confederation of School Administrators (COSA)

Oregon School Board Association (OSBA)

Vickie Chamberlain, Teacher Standards and Practices Commission

Tamra Hass, Columbia Regional Autism Services

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 7, A

004

Chair Backlund

Calls meeting to order at 1:07 PM. Welcomes committee and audience. Opens informational meeting.

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

009

Rep. Nolan

Presents a group of students from Portland area high schools.

022

James Williams

Former Lincoln High School (LHS) student. Thanks committee for accommodation. Requests that the legislature be concerned about funding for public schools. Expresses desire for an “adequate and stable,” long-term solution to funding.

044

Chris Chamness

LHS student. Thanks the chair. Reiterates need for “adequate and stable” funding of education. Lists programs in need. States he is aware of economic situation but feels this only increases the need for prioritizing education. Urges session continue until solution is found.

068

Rep. Nolan

Thanks them.

075

Chair Backlund

Agrees and states his hopes for finding a solution similar to that. Welcomes presenters.

090

Ozzy Rose

Confederation of School Administrators (COSA). Begins presentation . Refers to (EXHIBIT A). Elaborates on the concept of “universal proficiency” with regard to the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB). Outlines the history presented in the document. Gives examples of universal proficiency. Raises questions about what should happen to children before they arrive in school and during the summertime. Indicates the value of good teachers. Reiterates the need for focus on proficiency. Invites questions.

221

Chair Backlund

Thanks Ozzy.

225

Chuck Bennett

COSA. States that we are succeeding in a number of areas despite the lack of funding. Lists areas of noted improvement and achievement. Believes discussion on problems in schools is necessary. Remarks the need to assure the public that Oregon is progressing. Refers the committee to (EXHIBIT B).  Recommends that they use the data provided.  

307

Chuck Bennett

Uses the terms “stable and adequate” defined by the earlier student testimonies to describe the needs of funding. Adds funding should also be equitable. Highlights outstanding costs drivers in districts’ budgets.

365

Chair Backlund

Thanks Chuck.

368

Rep. Nolan

Mentions a group of West Sylvan Middle School students present at the hearing. Informs they are here by their own initiative and at their own  expense with interest in the deliberations of the committee. Thanks the students.

375

Chair Backlund

Thanks the students.

376

Rep. Avakian

Adds he admires the intelligence and motivation the children have shown.

393

John Marshall

Oregon School Board Association (OSBA). Refers to (EXHBITS C, D, and E). Empathizes with the legislators as he represents a group of elected officials also trying to balance budgets. States that NCLB imposes on the  nation what Oregon has already required in the realm of standards. Adds the challenge faced in reconciling federal and state laws and “single play book” for schools.

TAPE 8, A

005

John Marshall

Continues overview. Urges that the committee consider how they will create an environment where locals can make the changes they see fit. Begins discussion on mandates and uniformity. Informs the legislators of their duty to provide for uniformity in schools. States that the best decision are local decisions.

110

Rep. Avakian

Asks what criteria legislators should use to determine local and state jurisdiction on issues.

117

John Marshall

Responds with an example. Reiterates the importance of an environment that lends itself to local control.

135

Ozzy Rose

Speaks to Avakian. Tries to explain the difference between uniformity and mandates. Identifies the need for a state system of schools, instead of a state school system.

159

Rep. Avakian

Comments on this with regard to school boards.

164

Chair Backlund

Discusses mandates, funded and unfunded, and regulatory burdens.

170

Ozzy Rose

Adds to Chair Backlund’s comments. Relates the discussion to the Certificate of Initial Mastery (CIM), Certificate of Advanced Mastery (CAM), and Public Employee Retirement System (PERS).

183

John Marshall

Provides that Jan McComb has a list of Oregon education mandates.

195

Chair Backlund

Comments he has Jan’s six-page list with him. Add his interest in considering those to help schools operate better.

205

Ozzy Rose

Comments additionally on information about mandates.

211

Rep. Dalto

Asks John Marshall to elaborate on the kinds of mandates they have from counties.

212

John Marshall

Answers ‘fees”.

213

Rep. Dalto

Requests that Mr. Marshall elaborate.

214

John Marshall

Comments that “one man’s mandate is another man’s necessity.”

221

Chair Backlund

Remarks that a dedicated, committed child can obtain a quality education in public school. Wonders additionally about those students who do not share the same traits. Thanks the presenters. Calls Vickie Chamberlain to testify.

235

Vickie Chamberlain

Executive Director, Teacher Standards and Practices Commission (TSPC). Begins overview of the commission and its policies. Refers committee to the information TSPC has furnished (EXHIBITS F - L). Defines the purpose of the commission. Provides history of TSPC. Lists requirements of those working for TSPC. Explains funding. Extols the children present.

301

All

Applauds the students exiting the hearing.

343

Vickie Chamberlain

Highlights charter school registration (EXHIBIT I). 

361

Vickie Chamberlain

Overviews workload of staff. Details disciplinary actions taken by the commission. Refers committee to (EXHIBIT H) a supply and demand report.

TAPE 7, B

003

Vickie Chamberlain

Continues presentation. Informs of teacher education programs. Refers to (EXHIBIT F).

034

Vickie Chamberlain

Discusses teacher quality. Informs of testing for teachers. Submits that work is needed in the testing area. Continues discussion of teacher education programs. Includes they are performance-based and are highly relevant to requirements of NCLB. Informs of an upcoming bill.

091

Vickie Chamberlain

Lists recent achievements of the commission. Lists challenges the commission is facing.  Invites questions.

113

Rep. Scott

Discusses Ms. Chamberlain’s earlier comments regarding collective bargaining and grievances.

119

Vickie Chamberlain

Informs of grievance procedure from ethical through criminal activities. States cases can be fairly drawn out. Adds that teachers keep their licenses until they are found guilty.

138

Rep. Hopson

Inquires what role TSPC plays in negotiating with the federal government and how that differs from the Oregon Department of Education (ODE).

147

Vickie Chamberlain

Explains the requirements of federal law. Offers that the job of TSPC is to ensure ODE’s plans are supported.

165

Chair Backlund

Poses a hypothetical question regarding a change she would make to TSPC.

167

Vickie Chamberlain

Mentions she would change TSPC administrative rules as they have become very complex and detailed. Provides that she does not feel burdened by mandates as she felt they were very general. Adds she would change perception of TSPC’s ability to deliver quality customer service.

187

Chair Backlund

Comments on customer service issues.

195

Vickie Chamberlain

Responds to comments on these issues in terms of being responsive.

200

Chair Backlund

Thanks her.  Welcomes Tamra Hass.

204

Tamra Hass

Columbia Regional Autism Services. Begins overview of what regional autism programs are. Refers to written testimony (EXHIBIT M) .

242

Chair Backlund

Asks if “low incidence” equates high cost.

244

Tamra Hass

Defines “low incidence”. Explains that the concept behind regional programs is to reduce disparity and lower costs.

276

Rep. Dalto

Asks where the regional programs of the state are located.

282

Tamra Hass

Responds with the locations of programs in western part of Oregon.

291

Rep. Dalto

Clarifies issue of regional programs and educational service districts (ESD) as to provider of the services.

298

Tamra Hass

Explains further.

312

Rep. Dalto

Clarifies issue of ESD’s by providing an example.

324

Tamra Hass

Affirms. Comments on areas where there are less students with autism and explains that those student are placed into a regional program to lower expense. Points out Washington state does not have regional programs. Remarks on the treatment of those students.

359

Rep. Dalto

Ask if Ms. Hass knows of occurrences where people move to certain regions due to need for a higher degree service.

366

Tamra Hass

States she knows of that occurring. Continues with written testimony. Points out that information concerning autism increases daily.

TAPE 8, B

003

Tamra Hass

Continues. Adds that regional programs are designed to provide workshops for parents and teachers. Notes difficulty due to spread-out nature of autistic students in Oregon. States eligibility requirements for autism are increasing. Comments that their goal is to help children become productive members of society. Discusses funding of these services.  

040

Rep. Dalto

Remarks on cases where autism coordinators were discontinued in regions. Inquires how their organization has been affected by funding this biennium.

055

Tamra Hass

Elaborates on cuts placed by the Governor’s budget. Urges committee to inform other legislators of regional autism programs so that they can better understand the levity of the issue. Provides that they have the support of the Special Education Task Force. Adds that these programs are cost effective.

087

Rep. Hopson

Points out that the Governor’s budget will not be the end-of-session budget.

091

Tamra Hass

Thanks the committee. Restates the need for advocacy.

096

Rep. Backlund

Thanks Ms. Hass. Closes informational meeting. Adjourns meeting at 2:40 PM.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – Informational, Universal Proficiency, Ozzy Rose of COSA, 1 p

B – Informational, COSA Information, Chuck Bennett of COSA, 6 p

C – Informational, OSBA Information, John Marshall of OSBA, 2 p

D – Informational, OSBA Issues, OSBA, 12 p

E – Informational, Quality Education Model 2000, OSBA, 80 p

F – Informational, TSPC 1999-2000 Teacher Report, Vickie Chamberlain of TSPC, 46 p

G – Informational, Summary of TSPC, TSPC, 1 p

H – Informational, Supply and Demand document, TSPC, 10 p

I –  Informational, Charter School Registries, TSPC, 3 p

J –  Informational, Web Information, TSPC, 4 p

K – Informational, Oregon Report Card 2001-2002, TSPC, 53 p

L – Informational, Independent Colleges, TSPC, 31 p

M – Informational, overview, Columbia Regional Autism Services, Tamra Hass,  4p