HOUSE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
January 24, 2003 Hearing Room E
1:00 PM Tapes
7 - 8
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Vic Backlund, Chair
Rep. Pat Farr, Vice-Chair
Rep. Elaine Hopson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Brad Avakian
Rep. Billy Dalto
Rep. Mary Nolan
Rep. Wayne Scott
STAFF PRESENT: Jim
Keller, Administrator
Jeana Harrington, Administrative Support
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: Informational Meeting
Confederation of School Administrators (COSA)
Oregon School Board Association (OSBA)
Vickie Chamberlain, Teacher Standards and Practices Commission
Tamra Hass, Columbia Regional Autism Services
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 7, A |
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004 |
Chair Backlund |
Calls meeting to order at 1:07 PM. Welcomes
committee and audience. Opens informational meeting. |
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INFORMATIONAL
MEETING |
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009 |
Rep. Nolan |
Presents a group of students from Portland area high
schools. |
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022 |
James Williams |
Former Lincoln High School (LHS) student. Thanks
committee for accommodation. Requests that the legislature be concerned about
funding for public schools. Expresses desire for an “adequate and stable,”
long-term solution to funding. |
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044 |
Chris Chamness |
LHS student. Thanks the chair. Reiterates need for
“adequate and stable” funding of education. Lists programs in need. States he
is aware of economic situation but feels this only increases the need for
prioritizing education. Urges session continue until solution is found. |
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068 |
Rep. Nolan |
Thanks them. |
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075 |
Chair Backlund |
Agrees and states his hopes for finding a solution
similar to that. Welcomes presenters. |
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090 |
Ozzy Rose |
Confederation of School Administrators (COSA).
Begins presentation . Refers to (EXHIBIT
A). Elaborates on the concept of “universal proficiency” with regard to
the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB). Outlines the history presented in the
document. Gives examples of universal proficiency. Raises questions about
what should happen to children before they arrive in school and during the
summertime. Indicates the value of good teachers. Reiterates the need for
focus on proficiency. Invites questions. |
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221 |
Chair Backlund |
Thanks Ozzy. |
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225 |
Chuck Bennett |
COSA. States that we are succeeding in a number of
areas despite the lack of funding. Lists areas of noted improvement and
achievement. Believes discussion on problems in schools is necessary. Remarks
the need to assure the public that Oregon is progressing. Refers the
committee to (EXHIBIT B). Recommends that they use the data
provided. |
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307 |
Chuck Bennett |
Uses the terms “stable and adequate” defined by the
earlier student testimonies to describe the needs of funding. Adds funding
should also be equitable. Highlights outstanding costs drivers in districts’
budgets. |
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365 |
Chair Backlund |
Thanks Chuck. |
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368 |
Rep. Nolan |
Mentions a group of West Sylvan Middle School
students present at the hearing. Informs they are here by their own
initiative and at their own expense
with interest in the deliberations of the committee. Thanks the students. |
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375 |
Chair Backlund |
Thanks the students. |
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376 |
Rep. Avakian |
Adds he admires the intelligence and motivation the
children have shown. |
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393 |
John Marshall |
Oregon School Board Association (OSBA). Refers to (EXHBITS C, D, and E). Empathizes
with the legislators as he represents a group of elected officials also
trying to balance budgets. States that NCLB imposes on the nation what Oregon has already required in
the realm of standards. Adds the challenge faced in reconciling federal and
state laws and “single play book” for schools. |
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TAPE 8, A |
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005 |
John Marshall |
Continues overview. Urges that the committee
consider how they will create an environment where locals can make the
changes they see fit. Begins discussion on mandates and uniformity. Informs the
legislators of their duty to provide for uniformity in schools. States that
the best decision are local decisions. |
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110 |
Rep. Avakian |
Asks what criteria legislators should use to
determine local and state jurisdiction on issues. |
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117 |
John Marshall |
Responds with an example. Reiterates the importance
of an environment that lends itself to local control. |
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135 |
Ozzy Rose |
Speaks to Avakian. Tries to explain the difference
between uniformity and mandates. Identifies the need for a state system of
schools, instead of a state school system. |
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159 |
Rep. Avakian |
Comments on this with regard to school boards. |
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164 |
Chair Backlund |
Discusses mandates, funded and unfunded, and
regulatory burdens. |
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170 |
Ozzy Rose |
Adds to Chair Backlund’s comments. Relates the
discussion to the Certificate of Initial Mastery (CIM), Certificate of Advanced
Mastery (CAM), and Public Employee Retirement System (PERS). |
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183 |
John Marshall |
Provides that Jan McComb has a list of Oregon
education mandates. |
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195 |
Chair Backlund |
Comments he has Jan’s six-page list with him. Add
his interest in considering those to help schools operate better. |
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205 |
Ozzy Rose |
Comments additionally on information about mandates. |
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211 |
Rep. Dalto |
Asks John Marshall to elaborate on the kinds of
mandates they have from counties. |
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212 |
John Marshall |
Answers ‘fees”. |
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213 |
Rep. Dalto |
Requests that Mr. Marshall elaborate. |
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214 |
John Marshall |
Comments that “one man’s mandate is another man’s
necessity.” |
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221 |
Chair Backlund |
Remarks that a dedicated, committed child can obtain
a quality education in public school. Wonders additionally about those
students who do not share the same traits. Thanks the presenters. Calls
Vickie Chamberlain to testify. |
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235 |
Vickie Chamberlain |
Executive Director, Teacher Standards and Practices
Commission (TSPC). Begins overview of the commission and its policies. Refers
committee to the information TSPC has furnished (EXHIBITS F - L). Defines the purpose of the commission. Provides
history of TSPC. Lists requirements of those working for TSPC. Explains
funding. Extols the children present. |
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301 |
All |
Applauds the students exiting the hearing. |
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343 |
Vickie Chamberlain |
Highlights charter school registration (EXHIBIT I). |
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361 |
Vickie Chamberlain |
Overviews workload of staff. Details disciplinary
actions taken by the commission. Refers committee to (EXHIBIT H) a supply and demand report. |
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TAPE 7, B |
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003 |
Vickie Chamberlain |
Continues presentation. Informs of teacher education
programs. Refers to (EXHIBIT F). |
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034 |
Vickie Chamberlain |
Discusses teacher quality. Informs of testing for
teachers. Submits that work is needed in the testing area. Continues
discussion of teacher education programs. Includes they are performance-based
and are highly relevant to requirements of NCLB. Informs of an upcoming bill.
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091 |
Vickie Chamberlain |
Lists recent achievements of the commission. Lists
challenges the commission is facing.
Invites questions. |
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113 |
Rep. Scott |
Discusses Ms. Chamberlain’s earlier comments
regarding collective bargaining and grievances. |
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119 |
Vickie Chamberlain |
Informs of grievance procedure from ethical through
criminal activities. States cases can be fairly drawn out. Adds that teachers
keep their licenses until they are found guilty. |
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138 |
Rep. Hopson |
Inquires what role TSPC plays in negotiating with
the federal government and how that differs from the Oregon Department of
Education (ODE). |
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147 |
Vickie Chamberlain |
Explains the requirements of federal law. Offers
that the job of TSPC is to ensure ODE’s plans are supported. |
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165 |
Chair Backlund |
Poses a hypothetical question regarding a change she
would make to TSPC. |
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167 |
Vickie Chamberlain |
Mentions she would change TSPC administrative rules
as they have become very complex and detailed. Provides that she does not
feel burdened by mandates as she felt they were very general. Adds she would
change perception of TSPC’s ability to deliver quality customer service. |
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187 |
Chair Backlund |
Comments on customer service issues. |
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195 |
Vickie Chamberlain |
Responds to comments on these issues in terms of being
responsive. |
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200 |
Chair Backlund |
Thanks her. Welcomes
Tamra Hass. |
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204 |
Tamra Hass |
Columbia Regional Autism Services. Begins overview of what regional autism programs
are. Refers to written testimony (EXHIBIT
M) . |
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242 |
Chair Backlund |
Asks if “low incidence” equates high cost. |
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244 |
Tamra Hass |
Defines “low incidence”. Explains that the concept
behind regional programs is to reduce disparity and lower costs. |
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276 |
Rep. Dalto |
Asks where the regional programs of the state are
located. |
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282 |
Tamra Hass |
Responds with the locations of programs in western
part of Oregon. |
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291 |
Rep. Dalto |
Clarifies issue of regional programs and educational
service districts (ESD) as to provider of the services. |
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298 |
Tamra Hass |
Explains further. |
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312 |
Rep. Dalto |
Clarifies issue of ESD’s by providing an example. |
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324 |
Tamra Hass |
Affirms. Comments on areas where there are less students
with autism and explains that those student are placed into a regional
program to lower expense. Points out Washington state does not have regional
programs. Remarks on the treatment of those students. |
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359 |
Rep. Dalto |
Ask if Ms. Hass knows of occurrences where people
move to certain regions due to need for a higher degree service. |
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366 |
Tamra Hass |
States she knows of that occurring. Continues with
written testimony. Points out that information concerning autism increases
daily. |
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TAPE 8, B |
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003 |
Tamra Hass |
Continues. Adds that regional programs are designed
to provide workshops for parents and teachers. Notes difficulty due to
spread-out nature of autistic students in Oregon. States eligibility requirements
for autism are increasing. Comments that their goal is to help children
become productive members of society. Discusses funding of these services. |
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040 |
Rep. Dalto |
Remarks on cases where autism coordinators were
discontinued in regions. Inquires how their organization has been affected by
funding this biennium. |
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055 |
Tamra Hass |
Elaborates on cuts placed by the Governor’s budget.
Urges committee to inform other legislators of regional autism programs so
that they can better understand the levity of the issue. Provides that they
have the support of the Special Education Task Force. Adds that these
programs are cost effective. |
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087 |
Rep. Hopson |
Points out that the Governor’s budget will not be the
end-of-session budget. |
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091 |
Tamra Hass |
Thanks the committee. Restates the need for advocacy. |
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096 |
Rep. Backlund |
Thanks Ms. Hass. Closes informational meeting. Adjourns
meeting at 2:40 PM. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– Informational, Universal Proficiency, Ozzy Rose of COSA, 1 p
B
– Informational, COSA Information, Chuck Bennett of COSA, 6 p
C
– Informational, OSBA Information, John Marshall of OSBA, 2 p
D
– Informational, OSBA Issues, OSBA, 12 p
E
– Informational, Quality Education Model 2000, OSBA, 80 p
F
– Informational, TSPC 1999-2000 Teacher Report, Vickie Chamberlain of TSPC, 46
p
G
– Informational, Summary of TSPC, TSPC, 1 p
H
– Informational, Supply and Demand document, TSPC, 10 p
I
– Informational, Charter School
Registries, TSPC, 3 p
J
– Informational, Web Information, TSPC,
4 p
K
– Informational, Oregon Report Card 2001-2002, TSPC, 53 p
L
– Informational, Independent Colleges, TSPC, 31 p
M
– Informational, overview, Columbia Regional Autism Services, Tamra Hass, 4p