HOUSE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
March 06, 2003 OMSI Auditorium
5:00 PM Tapes 40 - 43
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Vic Backlund, Chair
Rep. Pat Farr, Vice-Chair
Rep. Elaine Hopson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Brad Avakian
Rep. Billy Dalto
Rep. Mary Nolan
Rep. Wayne Scott
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Keller, Committee Administrator
Linda K. Gatto, Committee Assistant
MEASURES HEARD: HB 2415 – Public Hearing
HB 2744 – Public Hearing
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 40, A |
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004 |
Chair Backlund |
Calls the meeting to order
at 5:45 p.m., welcomes colleagues and guests. Opens a simultaneous public
hearing for HB 2415 and HB 2744. |
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HB 2415 and HB 2744 PUBLIC HEARING |
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010 |
Jim Keller |
Provides an overview of HB
2415 and HB 2744. |
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020 |
Jim Schurzinger |
Superintendent, Portland
Public Schools. States that the district is accountable for the achievement
of its students. Explains that in order for the district to be accountable
there needs to be a measuring devise for schools to attain achievement goals.
States support for accountability. |
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051 |
Evelyn Warinsky |
Director of Research
Evaluation and Assessment for Portland Public Schools. Outlines four
commonalities from survey results on CIM/CAM:
Objects to HB 2415 because
it eliminates the certificates, work samples, arts, physical education, and
second languages. States possible support
for HB 2744 as a basis but objects to the option of teaching optional
subjects. |
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160 |
Dawn Phillips |
Chief of Staff for
Representative Randy Miller - HD 37 the chief sponsor of HB 2415. Clarifies
that HB 2415 keeps Oregon’s Education Reform Act on the books and the
standards in place. States it is the CIM/CAM portfolios, work samples,
paperwork and red tape associated with it that is being eliminated, not the
testing. Refers to correspondence from Susan Castillo, (EXHIBIT A). States that
$31 million is directly attributable to CIM/CAM, approximately one-third of
the entire budget for the ODE in Salem. Notes overlap with the federal No
Child Left Behind law. |
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240 |
Chair Backlund |
Describes what HB 2744 is
designed to achieve. Explains that in Section 4 the word “may” will not affect
current graduation requirements and amendments are being developed to clarify
this. Concludes this is a CIM bill only. Notes that more than $17 million of
the CIM program is mandated by the federal No Child Left Behind law. |
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330 |
Chair Backlund |
Continues to discuss
standards and assessments. Notes that Oregon is 1 of 19 states whose
statewide standards and assessments have been accepted by the federal
government. |
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370 |
Judy Stigler |
State Board of Education
member. Submits testimony, (EXHIBIT B).
Discusses successes in achievement standards. |
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TAPE 41, A |
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084 |
Steve Novick |
Legislative Coordinator,
ODE. Details what the federal No
Child Left Behind law requires. States that if Oregon adopted a new system of
assessments, it would require an elaborate process of measurement and
approval. Responds to comments on
ODE’s assessment budget. |
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119 |
Bob Siewert |
Associate Superintendent
of Special Education ODE. Discusses
the technical and content adequacy and notes that these are Oregon standards
developed by Oregon teachers for Oregon children. Refers to the last two
pages of (EXHIBIT C) and discusses
cost savings. Submits (EXHIBIT D).
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188 |
Vickie Fleming |
Assistant Superintendent
for Instructional Service, ODE.
Testifies in favor of the current system of standards and assessments.
States that eliminating the assessment system is not the answer to the
current educational funding crisis and may incur costs to redesign the
system. |
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227 |
Rep. Dalto |
Asks how much money is
being invested in CIM. |
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229 |
Fleming |
Responds that she will
leave the report (EXHIBIT E). |
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257 |
Carol Robinson |
Oregon Business
Association, (ODE). Explains that she has evaluated the standard-based
assessment through the CIM/CAM and OBA supports standard-based education and
accountability. Discusses maintaining benchmark testing of Oregon standards
for Oregon students. |
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491 |
Lynn Lundquist |
President, OBA. Provides
an overview of OBA. Advices to stay
the course with CIM. Notes that the
business community will not prosper unless there is an adequate workforce.
Discusses time and productivity. |
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510 |
Dr. Malcone |
State Epidemiologist,
Oregon Department of Human Services. Discusses the obesity epidemic in
America and notes that it is eroding the gains made in obesity related
diseases. States that physical activity needs to be promoted. |
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TAPE 40, B |
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027 |
Mary Furrow |
Testifying as a parent,
not as a member of the school board. Testifies in support of CIM/CAM based
upon observing the experience of the students. Submits (EXHIBIT F). |
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037 |
Bill Manley |
Mid-level Manager -
Portland Community College. States that he has been a student of education
reform. Comments on education reform; The trend toward a proficiency based
system rather than assessments based GPA and SAT scores. |
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093 |
Burke Padbury |
States he attended Monday’s
meeting. Testifies that students at that meeting indicated that universities
within and outside Oregon are not interested in CIM. Notes that the entity
implementing the assessment is also the auditor. Concludes that CIM is not
measured objectively. |
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148 |
Dr. Roy Murrell |
Chiropractor and parent.
Discusses the importance of physical education in the school system. Notes
that nutrition and exercise is essential to our physical and mental
requirements. |
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184 |
Tim Grolbert |
Parent. Strongly supports abolition of CIM/CAM.
Explains he is not paid to testify on CIM/CAM. States that the program has
not proven to be effective or of value. Concludes that the program did not
originate in Oregon. |
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255 |
Claudine Werner |
Teacher, Cleveland High
School. Submits testimony (EXHIBIT G).
States she is a work sample contact person. Testifies in support of the
writing work sample. Recommends CAM for better budget conditions. |
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308 |
Judy Messner |
Parent, Site Council
Member Wilsonville High School, Supports CIM and suggests slowing down the
other subject areas. Submits (EXHIBIT H). Discusses the lack of
incentive for students to participate in CIM. |
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360 |
Jeremy Everitt |
Teacher, Salem/Keizer
School District. Comments on accountability and the time spent on CIM work
sample. Notes that the curriculum is ever evolving. Expresses CIM/CAM as
valuable in a unique way. |
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430 |
Rep. Dalto |
Asks would the time spent
evaluating students work be the same without the CIM program. |
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474 |
Everitt |
Answers affirmatively. |
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478 |
Rep. Dalto |
Notes that Ms. Werner met
with teachers, asks if meetings with students or parents were included. |
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494 |
Werner |
Responds there appears to
be interest from students when viewed as a goal. |
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TAPE 41, B |
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038 |
Kenneth Thrasher |
Chair, Quality Education
Division for the State of Oregon.
Supports CIM/CAM but opposed to HB 2415. States the key is in
demonstrating knowledge. |
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071 |
Helen Babbitt |
Teacher, Sweetbriar
Elementary School. Discusses how the CIM standards have improved her
teaching. Comments it is about growing students who can learn and think. |
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104 |
Ed Smith |
Director of Curriculum,
Reynolds School District. Supports CIM/CAM and opposes to the bill to
eliminate them. Comments on the Oregon Education Act for the 21st
Century. Comments on the successes of the CIM program at Reynolds High School
noting that more than 50% of the students qualify for free or reduced fee
lunch, 22% are learning the English language, and has one of the highest
mobility rates in the state. |
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148 |
Rep. Dalto |
Asks Ms. Babbitt regarding
her work with English language students, how many students take the third
grade assessment which is required to be completed in English |
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164 |
Babbitt |
Responds usually one or
two. |
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167 |
Rep. Dalto |
Notes that it is his
understanding it can be difficult to prepare those students for the third
grade assessment. |
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172 |
Tom Fahey |
Director of Human
Resources, Wacker Siltronics. Opposes HB 2415 and favors HB 2744. Notes that
education reform began because of global competition. |
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230 |
Jim Harper |
Interim Executive
Director, ARIS. Testifies in support of retaining CIM/CAM. Notes that
currently a high school diploma can be achieved with a D average. |
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277 |
Aleita Hass-Holcombe |
Student Advocate.
Testifies in support of CIM and the importance of physical education. Notes
that Oregon leads the nation in obesity. Submits (EXHIBIT I). Reviews the No Child Left Behind mandates on Oregon.
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393 |
Janet Rash |
Manages the College
Scholarship Program for Oregon Intel. Testifies in support of HB 2744 and
retaining CIM/CAM. Expresses the success of CIM/CAM programs over the last
ten years and the importance for students to compete globally. |
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390 |
Eric McGuire |
Teacher, Sunset High
School. Submits written testimony, (EXHIBIT J).
Offers suggestions; eliminate the 10th-grade report of CIM scores
and instead report the scores of exiting senior classes. |
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TAPE 42, A |
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032 |
Vince
Jones |
Teacher, Westview High
School, Beaverton. Expresses that based upon classroom experience the CIM has
resulted in the compacting of the curriculum. Provides an example. |
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059 |
Jones |
Continues to provide
examples of class size, teacher workloads, and testing. Supports HB 2744. |
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087 |
Maxine Thompson |
Coordinator of the Leaders
of the Roundtable. Opposes HB 2415.
Submits (EXHIBIT K),
provides information on the organization. Comments on Oregon colleges and
universities not requiring or interested in the CIM. |
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146 |
Don Zehrung |
Oregon Coalition for the
Promotion for Physical Activity.
Provides booklets, (EXHIBIT L),
states opposition to HB 2744 and HB 2415. Comments that the funds expended for
health care; obesity, diabetes, sedentary lifestyle and preventable heart
disease was larger that what the state spent on the entire K-12 budget.
Discusses legislation and a California study comparing physical fitness with
reading and math scores. |
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204 |
Rep. Avakian |
Asks for examples of what
physical education programs should be in public schools. |
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208 |
Zehrung |
Responds in support of
accountability in physical education. |
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216 |
Doyle Payne |
Social Studies Teacher,
Westview High School, Beaverton. States that Beaverton will adjust their
program to fit the CIM over the next few years. States support for HB 2415
but notes the legislature needs to control the costs. |
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271 |
Minot Cleveland, M.D. |
Submits (EXHIBIT M) on behalf of Catherine
Ciarlo and (EXHBIT N) on
behalf of Molly White. Testifying as a Father,
Physician and State Chair of the Oregon Coalition for the Promotion for
Physical Activity, submits (EXHIBIT O). Discusses the need of Physical Education
and provides plans, (EXHIBIT P). Outlines:
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340 |
Dr. Cleveland |
Continues to express the
role of physical education and physical activity for better health and
academic performance. |
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385 |
Katie Larsell |
Board Member, Park Rose
School District. Testifies in favor
of the CIM. Expresses the school’s dependence on the CIM guideline. |
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455 |
Steve Schopp |
Parent, Activist.
Testifies in opposition to CIM. Recalls when under the name Outcome Based
Education and notes the intention was good. |
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TAPE 43, A |
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094 |
Mary Bastiani |
Parent, Foreign Language
specialist. Testifies in support of maintaining second languages for CIM/CAM.
Expresses that to succeed in a global and multi-cultural society, skills in
cross-cultural communication are needed. Submits and reads (EXHIBIT Q). |
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150 |
Kate Wilkins |
Reads submitted testimony
opposing CIM, (EXHIBIT R). |
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196 |
Dr. John Wilkins |
Former School Board
Member. Testifies in opposition to CIM. Recommends looking at how CIM is
managed and build on strengths instead of accepting mediocre results. |
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238 |
Duncan Wyse |
President of the Oregon
Business Council; Member of the Quality Education Committee; Member of
Multnomah Leaders Roundtable. Summarizes
three issues and testifies in favor of CIM;
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350 |
Rep. Hopson |
Asks are there specific
plans on how to make the CIM relevant for higher education. |
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356 |
Wyse |
Answers that one
recommendation is to tie CIM to scholarships. Adds looking into hiring practices and other employment
options. |
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378 |
Francis Charbonnier |
McMinnville School Board.
Submits (EXHIBIT S). States that
the Oregon Education Act is an entire system. The basic concept is to focus
on academic instruction and establish a solid foundation then use additional
instruction to develop each student’s interests and strengths. Supports HB 2744 and CAM. |
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TAPE 42, B |
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030 |
Sharon Webster |
Teacher, David Douglas
High School. Submits CAM brochure, (EXHIBIT T). Testifies about the
variety that CAM offers students. |
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080 |
Rep. Dalto |
Requests that the meeting
be continued a little longer and reduce the time allowed to speak to one
minute. |
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091 |
Madison Arnold |
Senior, David Douglas High
School. Testifies in favor of CIM/CAM programs and explains why the programs
are beneficial. States that these programs give students the opportunity to
decide on careers. |
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113 |
Darren Wood |
Senior, David Douglas High
School. Reiterates that CIM is a graduation requirement at David Douglas.
Testifies in favor of the portfolio and CIM/CAM. |
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140 |
Shauna Bone |
Senior, David Douglas High
School. States that she is in the Health Sciences and Social Human Services
CAM programs. Explains why the programs are beneficial for preparation of the
future. |
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172 |
Rep. Dalto |
Asks if college is in her
future. |
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177 |
Bone |
Answers affirmatively, in
the fall. |
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180 |
Naomi Miller |
Senior, David Douglas High
School. States that she transferred to David Douglas for the CAM program.
Explains how the program has benefited her. |
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203 |
Maria Osintseva |
Senior, David Douglas High
School. States that she is in the Health Sciences and Arts and Communications
CAM programs. Adds that English is her second language. Explains how the
programs have benefited her academically and socially. |
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231 |
Rep. Farr |
Asks what her first
language is. |
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233 |
Osintseva |
Answers Russian. |
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234 |
Diana Teuterachi |
Senior, David Douglas High
School. States she is currently enrolled in the Health Sciences CAM.
Expresses that through her internship she was offered a job and provides her
work sample for the members to view. |
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267 |
Amy Cunningham |
Senior, David Douglas High
School. States that she is enrolled in the Health Sciences CAM program.
Expresses that CAM has assisted her in choosing her career and would regret
seeing it eliminated. Notes that her CAM accomplishment supplemented her SAT
scores. |
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314 |
Sean Green |
Senior, Representing
Student Leaders of Oregon. Testifies that the Leaders want something to help
them get into college and do not believe that CIM/CAM will help compare
Oregon students against other students in the nation. |
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342 |
Brent Joshstead |
President of the Student
Alliance for Economic Responsibility. Refers to page six of the study that
ODE referred to, (EXHIBIT V). Urges the committee to look into CIM
because that is what the state is mandating. |
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384 |
Ian Green |
Student. States that he
has spent months working on CIM requirements that are not benefiting his
education or college acceptance. Explains that CAM at David Douglas it may be
another circumstance, but at Lake Oswego and most other Oregon high schools
CIM/CAM is not benefiting the students of Oregon. |
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410 |
Mitchell Barden |
Senior, Westlund High
School. Testifies in favor of HB 2415.
Expresses that today he received his final benchmark for CIM which he
has been trying to get for the last year and a half. Expresses that he has
been accepted by the University of Oregon and CIM/CAM did not come up. |
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457 |
John Nelson |
Parent, Administrator in a
Post Secondary Institution, Employer and Member of the Reynolds School
District. Graduate of Portland State
University. Submits (EXHIBIT U) in
opposition to CIM/CAM. Emphasizes that it is the Reynolds CIM requirement not
the state CIM requirement that raised the achievement level from 20% to over
85%. |
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TAPE 43, B |
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519 |
Amy Webb |
Junior, Milwaukee High
School. States that 75 out of 300 students are passing the CIM and will
graduate this year. Explains that many of her friends will attend Clackamas
Community College to get their diplomas because CIM is not required
there. |
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055 |
Anna Thompson |
Parent, Reynolds School
District. Testifies in support of HB
2415. Testifies that never at a
parent teacher conference has a teacher spoke positively about CIM/CAM. Urges
elimination of the CIM/CAM. |
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118 |
Chair Backlund |
Closes the public hearing
on HB 2415 and HB 2744 and adjourns the meeting at 8:30 p.m. |
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(EXHIBIT V was referred to numerous times during the course of the
evening) |
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(EXHIBITS W through HH submitted for the record) |
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Tape 44 was not used. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A.
HB 2744/HB 2415 correspondence, Dawn Phillips, 11 pp
B. HB 2744/HB 2415 correspondence, Judy Stigler, 1 p
C. HB 2744, written testimony, Bob Siewert, 22
pp.
D. Publication, Oregon Report Card, ODE, 52 pp
E. Confederation of Oregon School
Administrators Survey Results, Vickie Fleming, 24 pp
F. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Mary
Furrow, 3 pp
G. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Claudine
Werner, 1 p
H. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Judy
Messner, 5 pp
I. HB 2744/HB 2415, prepared testimony, Aleita
Hass-Holcombe, 20 pp
J. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Eric
McGuire, 20 pp
K. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Maxine
Thompson, 3 pp
L. HB 2744/HB 2415, booklets, Don Zehrung, 62
pp
M.
HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Catherine Ciarlo, 2 pp
N. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Molly
White, 2 pp
O. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Minot
Cleveland, 2 pp
P. HB 2744/HB 2415, booklets, Minot Cleveland,
96 pp
Q. HB 2744/Hb 2415, written testimony, Mary
Bastiani, 2 pp
R. HB 2744/Hb 2415, written testimony, Kate
Wilkins, 2 pp
S. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Francis
Charbonnier, 1 p
T. HB 2744/HB 2415, CAM Program Book, Sharon
Webster, 16 pp
U. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, John
Nelson, 2 pp
V. Publication, THE FIRST YEAR, staff, 10
pp
The
Following was Submitted for the Record
W.
HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Juan Antonio Trujillo, 3 pp
X. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Martha
McLeod and Elizabeth LeRud, 1 p
Y. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, John
Farra, 2 pp
Z. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Kathy
Lange, 2 pp
AA.
HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Reed Scott-Schwalbach, 1 p
BB.
HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Mary L. “Dee” Young, 1 p
CC.
HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Caleb Burns PhD, 5 pp
DD.
HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Rhonda Case, 1 p
EE. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Ann
Schatz, 1 p
FF. HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Susan
Hayden PhD, 2 pp
GG.
HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Kim Rueck, 3 pp
HH.
HB 2744/HB 2415, written testimony, Stoddart Smith, 1 p