HOUSE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION

 

 

March 26, 2003   Hearing Room E

1:00 PM Tapes  53 - 54

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Vic Backlund, Chair

Rep. Pat Farr, Vice-Chair

Rep. Elaine Hopson, Vice-Chair

Rep. Brad Avakian

Rep. Billy Dalto

Rep. Mary Nolan

Rep. Wayne Scott

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Jim Keller, Committee Administrator

Jeana Harrington, Committee Assistant

 

 

MEASURES HEARD:                     HB 2450 – Work Session

                                                HB 2807 – Work Session

                                                HB 3044 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 3103 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 53, A

004

Chair Backlund

Calls meeting to order at 1:10 PM. Welcomes colleagues and audience. Opens work session on HB 2450.

HB 2450 WORK SESSION

009

Jim Keller

Committee Administrator. Reads Staff Measure Summary (SMS) on HB 2450. Notes amendments.

013

Rep. Deborah Kafoury

House District 43. Refers members to the -8 amendments (EXHIBIT A).  Notes there is no fiscal impact with the amendment.

029

Chair Backlund

Asks Rep. Farr to explain the -6 amendments.

032

Rep. Farr

Discusses -6 amendments (EXHIBIT B). Explains the amendments would include more schools.

042

Chair Backlund

Asks if the -6 would create a precedent for other related issues such as the Oregon Opportunity Grant (OOG).

046

Rep. Farr

Believes the issues are different.

050

Rep. Hopson

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2450-6 amendments dated 03/13/03.

053

Rep Nolan

States she supports the -6 amendments.

056

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Backlund

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

058

Rep. Hopson

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2450-8 amendments dated 03/26/03.

059

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Backlund

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

063

Rep. Hopson

MOTION:  Moves HB 2450 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED.

070

Rep Nolan

Voices hope the program will continue to expand the program in the future.

072

Chair Backlund

Comments on the evolution of the bill.

076

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Backlund

The motion CARRIES.

REP. KAFOURY will lead discussion on the floor.

088

Chair Backlund

Closes work session on HB 2450. Opens work session HB 2807.

HB 2807 WORK SESSION

091

Jim Keller

Reads SMS on HB 2807. Notes subsequent referral to Ways and Means.

095

Rep. Farr

MOTION:  Moves HB 2807 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

101

Rep. Nolan

Applauds the work of the consortium to increase access to educate in the eastern part of the state. States she does not support a do pass recommendation without knowledge of the consequences to the current budget. Supports a no recommendation motion. Wants to know the consequences of funding to other programs if the bill is passed.

115

Rep. Avakian

Concurs that although the program is laudable, funds may not be available. States he does not support passage.

122

Rep. Hopson

Echoes the opinions and concerns of her colleagues.

127

Chair Backlund

Asks if Rep. Farr would consider withdrawing the motion.

130

Rep. Farr

Asserts he would consider withdrawal.

130

Chair Backlund

Requests the Rep. Farr withdraw the motion.

134

Rep. Farr

Withdraws earlier motion.

135

Rep. Farr

MOTION:  Moves HB 2807 to the floor WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION as to passage and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

144

Passes

VOTE:  6-1

AYE:               6 - Dalto, Farr, Hopson, Nolan, Scott, Backlund

NAY:               1 - Avakian

 

Chair Backlund

The motion CARRIES.

157

Chair Backlund

Closes work session on HB 2807. Opens public hearing on HB 3044.

HB 3044 PUBLIC HEARING

158

Jim Keller

Reads SMS on HB 3044.

165

 Steve Little

Senior Program Technician, Business Division, Oregon Department of Revenue (ODR). Testifies on HB 3044 (EXHIBIT C). Explains the origin of the bill with regard to debt collection. Informs the committee of fees collected authorized by statute. Notes a fiscal impact does not yet exist. Estimates the requirements of the bill. Notes amendments.

212

Chair Backlund

Clarifies a statistic given.

214

Little

Answers every 5,000 accounts. Explains the potential funding.

226

Rep. Hopson

Poses question on costs.

234

Little

Responds.

242

John Bohlander

Principal, McNary High School. Testifies on HB 3044. Explains data is currently being compiled on the issue. Provides data on outstanding bills for students at McNary High School (EXHIBIT D). Comments on the categories with regard to funds.

364

Chair Backlund

Points out the total funds missing.

367

Bohlander

Comments on the total funds with regard to accountability of students. Notes the items included have been missing since grade school in some cases.

TAPE 54, A

003

Rep. Hopson

Asks why the ODR would have a better chance of collecting the funds.

010

Little

Responds of the consequences of outstanding funds.

014

Bohlander

Informs the committee of the policy with regard to dropout students.

022

Chair Backlund

Adds there are amendments coming that provide for more flexibility. Discusses the need of funds considering the current budget crisis. Speaks to the situation from his perspective as a former teacher. Comments on the loss of books.

051

Rep. Nolan

Asks if Mr. Bohlander knows the proportion of the students are currently enrolled versus those who are dropouts.

055

Bohlander

Replies he is unsure.

057

Rep. Nolan

Requests an estimate.

059

Bohlander

Estimates 75% of students with outstanding fees are still enrolled. Notes textbooks are now checked out by barcode. Discusses the situation of lost textbooks.

067

Rep. Hopson

Requests other methods ODR uses to collect funds when students leave school.

072

Little

Explains items are turned to liquid form of dollars and explains the process.

084

Rep. Hopson

Inquires how ODR could be more successful than schools in collection.

089

Little

Replies ODR has greater capability given more information on the students and parents.

094

Rep. Dalto

Requests other conventional methods of asking for funds by schools.

102

Bohlander

Provides an example of collecting funds. Discusses the methods of accounting for textbooks.

130

Rep. Dalto

Restates his question focusing on student remaining in school.

145

Bohlander

Notes the semester grades are withheld and diplomas are withheld upon graduation.

155

Rep. Dalto

Asserts the current methods are not working.

157

Bohlander

Concurs.

159

Rep. Hopson

Requests why students are not then kept from walking at graduation.

161

Bohlander

Responds it is the policy of the school district. Believes academic responsibility has been fulfilled despite outstanding fees.

169

Rep. Dalto

Inquires the bill would create a new mechanism for leverage.

170

Bohlander

Affirms.

173

Chair Backlund

Comments on the totality of funds in a biennium. Believes the issue involves great funds.

188

Matt Markee

Oregon Collections Association (OCA). Testifies on HB 3044. Comments on the intent of the bill. Notes there is a related bill in existence. States he would be in favor of including all fees owed.

214

Rep. Avakian

Asks if he implies that families owing money debt be consolidated to the collection agency.

221

Markee

Explains families that owe in one respect may owe in others.

225

Rep. Nolan

Inquires if the intent is to change the ranking of debt with regard to school districts. Provides example.

241

Little

Explains when ODR collects fees, money goes to the general fund.

249

Rep. Nolan

Poses situation. Asks if funds collected are shared proportionally.

256

Little

Clarifies.

257

Rep. Nolan

Asks if the bill would change the priority of collections.

258

Little

Negates.

260

Rep. Dalto

Asks Mr. Markee if there is a cost associated with collection action to the school district.

268

Markee

Explains fees.

275

Rep. Dalto

Clarifies there is no separate fee to the school itself.

278

Markee

Provides that if OCA does not collect, no one is paid.

292

Rep. Avakian

Asks if a school district would need a judgment to pursue garnishment.

299

Little

Answers that an administrative ruling would be necessary to make funds liquid.

305

Markee

Explains the process school districts would most likely initiate.

310

Rep. Avakian

Clarifies.

315

Markee

Affirms.

320

Bohlander

Comments. Believes Bob Barker hosted Lets Make A Deal. No one notices.

344

Rep. Farr

Comments.

345

Chair Backlund

Closes public hearing on HB 3044. Opens public hearing on HB 3103.

HB 3103 PUBLIC HEARING

346

Jim Keller

Reads SMS on HB 3103.

358

Rep. Hopson

Discusses HB 3103, related bills, and the interest of better school funding. Comments on the purpose of a task force.

394

Ozzy Rose

Confederation of Oregon School Administrators (COSA). Speaks to the issue of consolidation of school districts. Testifies in favor of HB 3103.

TAPE 53, B

004

Rose

Discusses the consolidation of school districts. Informs the committee of task force bills.

019

Chair Backlund

Clarifies.

020

Rose

Speaks on HB 3103. Provides history of school districts. Believes the task force is a solid idea. Believes the bill should include Education Service Districts (ESD) and that it needs an amendment.

102

Rep. Farr

Offers he was a school board member of School District 52. Discusses the philosophical difference between the schools in the area. States he does not believe the action will be successful.

120

Chair Backlund

Asks if there will be a cost.

125

Rose

Affirms. Comments on demographics and communities.

140

Rep. Dalto

Asks how a school system could be created form scratch in 2003.

148

Rose

Remarks.

152

Rep. Dalto

Restates question.

155

Rose

Suggests a task force could look at an efficient method of program delivery.

165

Rep. Hopson

Asks Brian Reeder to testify.

170

Brian Reeder

Oregon Department of Education (ODE). Comments on a study performed by ODE with regard to delivery of services. Discusses the outcome being a J-shaped curve. Notes some districts in Oregon may be too large.

200

Chair Backlund

Closes public hearing on HB 3103. Adjourns the meeting at 2:21 PM

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2450-8, Staff, 1 p

B – HB 2450-6, Staff, 1 p

C – HB 3044, Steve Little, 1 p

D – HB 3044, John Bohlander, 1 p