HOUSE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION

 

 

April 2, 2003 Hearing Room E

1:00 PM Tapes  57 - 58

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Vic Backlund, Chair

Rep. Elaine Hopson, Vice-Chair

Rep. Brad Avakian

Rep. Billy Dalto

Rep. Mary Nolan

Rep. Wayne Scott

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:             Rep. Pat Farr, Vice-Chair

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Jim Keller, Committee Administrator

Jeana Harrington, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES HEARD:                     HB 2600 – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                HB 2744 – Work Session

                                                HB 3603 – Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 57, A

004

Chair Backlund

Calls meeting to order at 1:08 PM. Opens public hearing on HB 2600.

HB 2600 PUBLIC HEARING

006

Jim Keller

Reads Staff Measure Summary (SMS) on HB 2600.

010

Speaker Karen Minnis

House District 49. Testifies in favor of HB 2600. Relates her own experience as a polytechnic student. Lists the benefits. States her support of the -3 amendments (EXHIBIT A).  

078

Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson

House District 50. Testifies in favor of HB 2600 (EXHIBIT B). States the bill will help the economy as it provides grants for education. Explains the Center for Advanced Learning (CAL). Notes the building is already under construction. 

104

Sen. John Minnis

Senate District 25. Provides statistics concerning high school students readiness for college and in areas of advanced technologies. Offers personal account of technological and vocational skills learned. Speaks on the need for a vision for education. Comments on his experiences as Co-Chair of the Ways and Means Committee. States he supports the -3 amendments.

173

Chair Backlund

Notes this attempt is the third.

179

Speaker Minnis

Believes expectation have been lowered and that the concept should be supported.

 

 

Points out the careers being focused on by CAL. Points out those trained will enjoy high paying jobs.

207

Andrea Henderson

Oregon Community Colleges Association (OCCA). Testifies in favor of HB 2600.

222

Cam Preus-Braly

Commissioner of Community Colleges, Department of Workforce Development (CCWD). Testifies in favor of HB 2600.

247

Bill Lesh

CAL. Provides information on CAL. Testifies in favor of HB 2600. Refers the members to the compact disc provided (EXHIBIT C).

 

Jim Craven

American Electronics Association (AEA). Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D).

288

Bruce Anderson

Speaker’s Office. Notes the agencies and departments who support and have had input on the bill. Overviews the -3 amendments to HB 2600 by sections. Requests the subsequent referral to Ways and Means be eliminated.

382

Harvey Mathews

Associated Oregon Industries (AOI). Testifies in favor of HB 2600 and the -3 amendments (EXHIBIT E). Thanks Bruce Anderson for his work to bring agencies together to work on the measure.

TAPE 58, A

003

Mathews

Lists the goals of CAL and HB 2600. Lists the benefits of the bill.

019

Rep. Hopson

Clarifies the bill related to all districts in Oregon and the CAL is an example of what has been done.

025

Anderson

Affirms and adds that there are other CALs in the state.

029

Lesh

Explains the goal of HB 2600 being statewide access to education.

040

Anderson

Lists county involvement in community colleges.

052

Paula Gabrud

Mount Hood Community College. Testifies on HB 2600 (EXHIBIT F).

080

Chair Backlund

Closes public hearing and opens work session on HB 2600.

HB 2600 – WORK SESSION

087

Rep. Hopson

Believes in the importance of statewide access to funds. 

095

Rep. Hopson

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2600-3 amendments dated 4/1/03.

102

 

VOTE:  6-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Farr

 

Chair Backlund

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

105

Rep. Hopson

MOTION:  Moves HB  2600 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED.

115

 

VOTE:  6-0-1

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Farr

 

Chair Backlund

The motion CARRIES.

SPEAKER MINNIS AND REP. MONNES ANDERSON will lead discussion on the floor.

125

Chair Backlund

Closes work session on HB 2600. Opens work session on HB 3603.

HB 3603 – WORK SESSION

127

Jim Keller

Reads SMS on HB 3603.

134

Chair Backlund

Informs the members that Rep. Monnes Anderson requested the bill be referred to the House Committee on Health and Human Services.

145

Rep. Hopson

MOTION:  Moves HB  3603 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Health and Human Services.

151

Rep. Nolan

Understands there are amendments to HB 3603.

160

Rep. Hopson

Withdraws motion.

165

Rep. Hopson

MOTION:  Moves HB  3603 to the floor WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION as to passage and BE REFERRED to the committee on Health and Human Services.

175

 

VOTE:  6-0-1

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Farr

 

Chair Backlund

The motion CARRIES.

180

Chair Backlund

Closes work session on HB 3603. Opens work session on HB 2744.

HB 2744 – WORK SESSION

185

Jim Keller

Reads SMS on HB 2744.

193

Chair Backlund

Notes the number of amendments and public hearings on HB 2744.

200

Rep. Avakian

Requests discussion of amendments.

202

Chair Backlund

Concurs.

203

Cindy Hunt

Legislative Counsel (LC). Asks which amendments she should go through

207

Chair Backlund

Requests Ms. Hunt start with the -6 amendments. (EXHIBIT G).

212

Rep. Hopson

Asks what prior amendments constitute the -6 amendments.

222

Hunt

Answers that portions of previous amendments are included. Explains the -6 amendments completely replace the measure. Begins with page 5, section 4.

237

Rep. Avakian

Clarifies section four requirements.

241

Hunt

Affirms and explains requirements for content standards.

246

Rep. Avakian

Asks if another section requires the adoption of standards.

250

Hunt

Answers that line 14 of section 4 does.

255

Rep. Avakian

Ensures the standards are adopted.

260

Hunt

Notes his comment.

264

Rep. Avakian

Asks if the language should be a concern.

269

Hunt

Negates.

271

Rep. Hopson

Discusses line 15 of page 4. Explains to Rep. Avakian where requirements do exist.

275

Rep. Nolan

Asks if the standards have been adopted.

278

Hunt

Affirms.

279

Rep. Avakian

Asks if that is true of all areas.

280

Hunt

Affirms.

284

Chair Backlund

Clarifies the matter with regard to high school diplomas.

286

Rep. Avakian

Discusses how requirements for a high school diploma differ.

295

Hunt

Concurs.

300

Rep. Nolan

Suggests ODE join the discussion.

304

Hunt

Explains standards on the top of page 6. Notes the other sections are treated somewhat differently. Explains the State Board of Education requirements already in existence.

312

Rep. Dalto

Asks if a school district can choose not to adopt any standards.

315

Hunt

Negates and explains school districts must have academic content standards in subjects listed.

327

Rep. Nolan

Speaks on the allowances the language of the bill provides regarding state standards. 

340

Hunt

Concurs.

342

Rep. Nolan

Questions the point of statewide standards if permission is given to school districts to ignore them.

347

Pat Burk

Deputy Superintendent for Education Policy, Oregon Department of Education (ODE). Explains the options the bill envisions.

375

Rep. Nolan

Asks if the language is for the Certificate of Initial Mastery (CIM) or for academic standards.

380

Hunt

Responds the language for academic standards. Notes some of the amendments treat the issue differently.  

391

Rep. Dalto

Ask who requested the -6 amendments.

395

Chair Backlund

Answers he is unsure. Refers committee to -8 amendments as they are similar (EXHIBIT H).

400

Hunt

Explains the differences in the -6, -8, and -9 amendments (EXHIBIT I).

427

Rep. Nolan

Clarifies what amendments are related.

436

Hunt

Explains that the -6, -8, and -9 amendments should not be adopted together, and that the -7 amendments stand alone (EXHIBIT J).

449

Rep. Hopson

Comments.

TAPE 57, B

009

Hunt

Speaks on health offerings by the -6 amendments speaking and how they reflect current law.

017

Rep. Dalto

Asks where the -9 amendments health language came from.

020

Hunt

Responds regarding health offerings.

025

Burk

Gives health state requirements.

028

Hunt

Explains Informs -9 amendments were then created to address concerns raised for the intent of the bill regarding graduation requirements for health. SB 75 also directs dept. to meet fed requirements for health.

040

Chair Backlund

Notes the concerns for the affectation of graduation requirements.

047

Rep. Hopson

Explains the purpose of the work on the bill. Believes there are not as yet state standards although there are national requirements

057

Burk

No formal requirements in health for CIM. But there are still advised standards for health but there is a difference in changing diploma reception.

069

Rep. Hopson

Does not want additional burden on ODE while maintaining standards.

075

Hunt

Section 6, in -6 amendments. Notes the section changes current law. -8 amendments take on this. -9 changes in what state board can adopt.

104

Chair Backlund

Comments on the subjects the bill maintains.

111

Hunt

Notes the -9 amendments are the most narrow of the three. Mentions change in CIM statute with amendments regarding portfolios. Explains -7 provisions and statements on portfolios.

130

Chair Backlund

Invites Susan Castillo to comment at any time.

135

Hunt

Speaks on the amendments regarding school districts and charter schools. Discusses the amendments and statewide assessments. Explains the amendments relating to the Certificate of Advanced Mastery (CAM).  

166

Rep. Hopson

Notes a differentiation between the amendments in the form of a spreadsheet could be very helpful in decision making.

177

Chair Backlund

Concurs.

185

Rep. Avakian

Requests the subject areas that do not currently have assessments and what subject tests ODE is in the process of creating.

192

Burk

Responds that the current implemented assessment subjects are English, math, and science. Adds ODE is working on a social science assessment. Explains the scale score and performance assessment of second language.

203

Chair Backlund

Clarifies.

205

Burk

Informs the committee of the second language assessment. Adds there are no statewide assessments in the area of arts, physical education, and health.

227

Rep. Avakian

Clarifies there are standards in all of those areas. Asks if those include health.

230

Burk

Responds regarding standards in the areas listed. Explains how health is addressed. Speaks on the core content definition by the federal government.

244

Rep. Avakian

Struggles with the notion that the state has required this solely at the high school level. Voices concern for elementary and middle schools not having standards defined.

258

Hunt

Current law speaks of academic content standards although there are no requirements. Speaks on a comprehensive education.

264

Rep. Avakian

Clarifies the requirements for a comprehensive education.

270

Hunt

Explains that school districts have to offer education, but that it is up to school districts to determine that education.

278

Rep. Avakian

Speaks on content standards and requirements for curriculum on grades kindergarten through eight. Requests if the parties concur.

291

Burk

Comments on the requirements of elementary and middle schools. Offers that an annual number of instruction hours was adopted once the required hours of instruction time per subject were dropped.

315

Rep. Avakian

Discusses administrative rule and statute. Voices frustration that physical education, health, music, art, and second language can be dropped because they are not dictated by statute.

322

Susan Castillo

Superintendent of Public Instruction, ODE. Informs the committee of a recent peer review of the student performance assessment system. Comments on the committee’s focus on the matter. Hopes this does not foster confusion as to what the amendments include. Encourages the committee to allow for a comprehensive assessment system and for clarity. Notes the presence of a principal and teacher in the audience who believes in the assessment system.

383

Chair Backlund

Comments on the spreadsheet. Asks if it would be possible to work on by next Monday.

399

Rep. Nolan

Requests twenty-four hours to view materials.

403

Chair Backlund

Concurs.

TAPE 58, B

003

Randy Harnisch

ODE. Addresses Rep. Hopson’s questions on the standards. Explains administrative rules on content standards listed in the statutes.

014

Rep. Hopson

Understands that the focus is on student achievement instead of ‘seat time’.

017

Harnisch

Affirms.

018

Rep. Avakian

Clarifies that programs are optional after grade eight.

020

Harnisch

Explains the option.

028

Chair Backlund

Clarifies the concerns are not really valid.

032

Harnisch

Responds that clarification could be reasonable but states it has not been needed.

039

Chair Backlund

Comments.

038

Dave Burtoff

Principal, Bush Elementary School. Believes HB 2744 is on the right track in that the approach to education is comprehensive and sensible. Encourages a balanced approach.

067

Chair Backlund

Asks if there is too much time being committed to work samples.

071

Burtoff

Thinks that work samples and assessments are equal to the curriculum. Believes the problem resides in implementation. Comments on the evolution of benchmarks.

087

Rep. Dalto

Comments.

091

Chair Backlund

Comments. Notes the hope for moving HB 2744. Informs the fiscal has not been received.

103

Ozzy Rose

Confederation of School Administrators (COSA). Refers to Rep. Avakian’s concerns. Speaks on benchmarks. Believes the standards depend on resources.

128

Chair Backlund

Remarks. Closes work session on HB 2744. Adjourns meeting at 2:42 PM.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2600-3, Staff, 4 pp

B – HB 2600, Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson, 1 p

C – HB 2600, Bill Lesh, oversized exhibit – see archives

D – HB 2600, Jim Craven, 1 p

E – HB 2600, Harvey Mathews, 2 pp

F – HB 2600, Paula Gabrud, 1 p

G – HB 2744-6, Staff, 19 pp

H – HB 2744-8, Staff, 19 pp

I – HB 2744-9, Staff, 17 pp

J – HB 2744-7, Staff, 3 pp