HOUSE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION

 

 

April 7, 2003 Hearing Room E

1:00 PM Tapes  59 - 61

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Vic Backlund, Chair

Rep. Pat Farr, Vice-Chair

Rep. Elaine Hopson, Vice-Chair

Rep. Brad Avakian

Rep. Billy Dalto

Rep. Mary Nolan

Rep. Wayne Scott

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Jim Keller, Committee Administrator

Jeana Harrington, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES HEARD:                     HB 2817 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 3603 – Work Session

                                                HJR 41 – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                HB 3430 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 2744 – Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 59, A

004

Chair Backlund

Calls meeting to order at 1:35 PM. Welcomes colleagues and audience. Opens public hearing on HB 2817.

HB 2817 PUBLIC HEARING

006

Jim Keller

Committee Administrator. Reads Staff Measure Summary on HB 2817.

010

Sen. Kate Brown

Senate District 7. Testifies in favor of HB 2817 (EXHIBIT A).

046

Sen. Frank Morse

Senate District 8. Testifies in favor of HB 2817. Provides educational background. Notes the matriculation of independent college students. Comments on the socioeconomic backgrounds of privately educated students. Lists the advantages of the measure. 

108

Dr. Jay Barber

President, Warner Pacific College. Testifies in favor of HB 2817. Comments on the need for the postsecondary education task force.

156

Dr. Lee Pelton

President, Willamette University. Testifies in favor of HB 2817. Speaks on the benefits and goals for the task force. Lists potential items for consideration by the task force.

223

Dr. David Brandt

President, George Fox University. Testifies in favor of HB 2817. Comments on his time in Oregon. Categorizes the bill’s provisions for  access, cooperation, and money. States his beliefs for need based funding.

311

Dr. Barber

Notes an amendment will be introduced to eliminate the $500,000 request for funds..

321

Dr. Pelton

Comments on need based, subsidized, and merit based financial aid at Willamette University.

385

Harvey Mathews

Associated Oregon Industries (AOI). Testifies in favor of HB 2817.

TAPE 60, A

003

Mathews

Provides statistics on matriculation of students to post secondary schools.

016

Duncan Wyse

Oregon Business Council (OBC). Testifies in favor of HB 2817 (EXHIBIT B). Comments on a previous Senate Bill. Informs the committee of a study done by OBC and its trends. Notes the impediments to post secondary education in Oregon. Lists considerations that could come from the formation of a task force.    

082

Gary Mundine

Informs of the changes to the measure by the -2 amendment to HB 2817 (EXHIBIT C).

101

Rep. Hopson

Addresses the increased flexibility option for the Oregon University System (OUS). Requests how Mr. Wyse would conduct the change.

108

Wyse

Lists the governance of OUS and institutional autonomy as factors to consider. 

130

Lisa Zavala

OUS. Comments on OUS involvement on task forces for post secondary education. Explains the intent of HB 2817. Notes OUS has no objections to the bill, but lists further support with adoption of the -1 and -3 amendments (EXHIBIT D). Explains the intent of the -3 amendments.

190

Chair Backlund

Requests a reaction to OUS collaboration with others on post secondary education.

194

Zavala

Responds collaboration is in effect and is welcome.

201

Chair Backlund

Clarifies there is a precedent of collaboration.

205

Zavala

Affirms.

208

Andrea Henderson

Oregon Community College Association (OCCA). Notes OCCA is supportive of the collaboration of institutions on education. Provides examples of standing OCCA involvement with OUS and private institutions and businesses. Raises specific concerns with the bill regarding direction of the task force as it may negatively affect community colleges in areas of local control. Notes the -1 amendments to the bill (EXHIBIT E).  

274

Rep. Hopson

Clarifies OCCA concerns.

 

Henderson

Responds regarding a post secondary education council.

287

Rep. Avakian

Requests concerns that public monies may go to private colleges through the task force.

294

Henderson

Replies that specific funds already go to private institutions.

307

Zavala

Replies that is an issue of state policy

215

Chair Backlund

Speaks on the Oregon Opportunity Grants (OOG).

320

Rep. Avakian

Confirms OOG go to private, not for profit schools.

323

Chair Backlund

Affirms.

325

Cam Croise-Crawley

Commission of Community Colleges and Northwest Development. Supports the creation of a task force.

347

Chair Backlund

Clarifies she is speaking specifically on the -1 and -3 amendments.

350

Croise-Crawley

Affirms.

352

Chair Backlund

States reflection is needed on the amendments and that work session will be held at a later date.

367

Rep. Hopson

Concurs with Chair Backlund.

380

Chair Backlund

Closes public hearing on HB 2817. Opens work session on HB 3603.

HB 3603 – WORK SESSION

382

Jim Keller

Informs the committee of the need for reconsideration of the previous motion.

390

Chair Backlund

 

390

Chair Backlund

MOTION:  Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of reconsidering the vote on HB 3603.

395

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Backlund

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

396

Rep. Backlund

MOTION:  Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which HB 3603 WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION as to passage and BE REFERRED to the committee on Health and Human Services.

402

 

VOTE:  7-0

 

Chair Backlund

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

407

Rep. Hopson

MOTION:  Moves HB 3603 WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION as to passage and BE REFERRED to the committee on Health and Human Services prior to the referral to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

424

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Backlund

The motion CARRIES.

427

Chair Backlund

Opens public hearing on HJR 41.

HJR 41 – PUBLIC HEARING

438

Rick Hanson

Oregon Public Affairs Network (OPAN). Introduces himself.

445

John Grey Davis

OUS, Oregon Wireless Instructional Network (WIN). Introduces himself.

450

Curt Pederson

Oregon State University (OSU). Introduces himself.

TAPE 59, B

013

Chair Backlund

Comments.

018

Hanson

Begins explanation of OPAN. Testifies in favor of HJR 41.

042

Davis

Testifies in favor of HJR 41. Comments further on the purpose of OPAN. Explains the partnerships OPAN has.

069

Pederson

Testifies in favor of HJR 41. Comments on the involvement of OSU with OPAN. Comments on the technology available and advancing.

095

Hanson

Informs the committee on similar work by other state to illustrate the economy OPAN presents. Refers committee to information of OPAN (EXHIBIT F).

128

Rep. Hopson

Asks if there are plans to expand the program without funds.

132

Hanson

Responds with the objectives of OPAN.

148

Chair Backlund

Closes public hearing and opens work session on HJR 41.

HJR 41 WORK SESSION

154

Rep. Farr

MOTION:  Moves HJR 41 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED recommendation.

164

 

VOTE:  7-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Backlund

The motion CARRIES.

REP. FARR will lead discussion on the floor.

166

Chair Backlund

Closes work session on HJR 41. Opens public hearing on HB 3430.

HB 3430 PUBLIC HEARING

171

Jim Keller

Reads SMS on HB 3430.

181

Chair Backlund

Comments.

183

Rep. Nolan

House District 36. Explains her views on the legislation, HB 3430 and HJR 45, concerning the Quality Education Model and the funding needed for the model. Provides overview of on HB 3430. Notes the legislation would ‘set a floor’ for academic standards and define a basic education. Lists the intentions of the legislation. Notes the bill acknowledges there are differing local commitments to education. Informs the committee of the related measure, HJR 45.

299

Rep. Hopson

Requests the relationship between the ability for local control and the charge to Oregon Department of Education (ODE) to define the QEM.

313

Rep. Nolan

Replies that a thoughtful consideration of education in Oregon is needed in terms of funding. Comments on the commitment of the legislature.

343

Rep. Hopson

Clarifies the QEM suggested funding and local control for school districts. Asks if Rep. Nolan is suggesting a school district can absolve the responsibility for meeting standards.

360

Rep. Nolan

Explains that it is not her intention to allow a district to violate or ignore state standards. Notes her intention is for a consistent standard, and acknowledgement that the QEM is not being met. Comments on the need for realism in the current biennium.

TAPE 60, B

004

Chair Backlund

Believes the bill also follows the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB).

010

Rep. Nolan

Concurs and adds that both HB 3430 and HJR 45 are integrally linked.

019

Chair Backlund

Notes the HB 3430 may heighten general awareness of the Quality Education Commission (QEC). Closes public hearing on HB 3430. Opens work session on HB 2744. Comments on the matrix created by Cindy Hunt and Jim Keller (EXHIBIT G).

HB 2744 WORK SESSION

041

Hunt

Legislative Counsel (LC).

049

Chair Backlund

Requests she begin with the -11 amendment (EXHIBIT H).

055

Hunt

Explains the -7 amendments and requirements (EXHIBIT I).

067

Chair Backlund

Speaks on the goals of HB 2744. Believes the -7 and -11 amendments would accomplish them.

083

Hunt

Refers the committee to the -13 amendments (EXHIBIT J) and explains them.

121

Chair Backlund

Speaks on past amendments relation to portfolios.

129

Rep. Hopson

Clarifies it is alternative to meeting the Certificate of Initial Mastery. (CIM).

131

Chair Backlund

Concurs.

135

Rep. Nolan

Clarifies the purpose of the -13 amendments.

140

Rep. Avakian

Asks about the separation of health.

145

Hunt

Notes the -13 treat health the same. Begins explanation of -14 amendments (EXHIBIT K). Notes health was added in the -14 amendments.

170

Chair Backlund

Clarifies health has no state standards and -14 provides for that.

172

Hunt

Affirms.

178

Chair Backlund

States his hopes for the measure consideration in the future.

190

Ozzy Rose

Confederation of Oregon School Administrators (COSA). Comments on a policy meeting the administrators had. Notes one issue concerning the offering and receipt of a CIM garnered concern. Broaches the concept of an endorsement.

230

Rep. Hopson

Clarifies the intent of his comments regarding a CIM endorsement.

235

Rose

Responds with his interpretation of the verbage.

243

Rep. Avakian

Asks if COSA wants three subjects or the removal of ‘may’ and inclusion of all subjects.

249

Rose

Responds he wants a clear delineation of a CIM among Oregon schools.

260

Chair Backlund

Notes it seems COSA would leave the student in charge of pursuing endorsements.

269

Rose

Believes the point would be the same. Elaborates further on endorsements among schools.

278

Rep. Avakian

Asks if receipt of a CIM is attached to endorsements.

280

Rose

States he does not believe they are connected.

285

Rep. Farr

Comments on the endorsements and the usefulness.

299

Rep. Nolan

Requests if Mr. Rose holds a Bachelors Degree.

303

Rose

Affirms.

306

Rep. Nolan

Points out that worrying about inconsistency in the matter is unnecessary.

326

Rep. Farr

Differentiates the CIM from a Bachelors Degree.

335

Rep. Nolan

States her concern that there is a risk of exacerbation of CIM language thus changing its purpose.

356

Rep. Farr

Understands Rep. Nolan’s comments. Hopes that the rules will not be changed.

369

Rep. Hopson

Voices concern in comparing a diploma and a CIM. Notes the core areas are in line with NCLB and that state standards are met. Agrees with Rep. Nolan’s concerns in changing. Thinks that Mr. Rose’s suggestions may improve the matter.

394

Rep. Nolan

Asks Mr. Rose’s intentions for the future of CIM regarding endorsements.

403

Rose

Provides example.

TAPE 61, A

005

Rose

Envisions individual input into endorsements and an overall education plan developed by the student.

013

Chair Backlund

Comments.

020

Bob Wilnern

Oregon International Council (OIC). Voices concern for foreign language inclusion in the bill.

025

Chair Backlund

Explains the bill does nothing to harm language and overall graduation requirements.

037

Wilnern

Wonders that further amending of the CIM over time will only weaken the requirements. Notes the economic pressure, but cannot escape the lack of inclusion as an excuse to lower standards. Provides example to illustrate the need for higher standards. Voices hope that changes maintain current offerings.

101

Chair Backlund

Closes work session on HB 2744. Adjourns meeting at 3:38 PM.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2817, Sen. Kate Brown, 1 p

B – HB 2817, Duncan Wyse, 9 p

C – HB 2817-2, Staff, 1 p

D – HB 2817-3, Staff, 1 p

E – HB 2817-1, Staff, 1 p

F – HJR 41, Rick Hanson, 4 p

G – HB 2744, Staff, 3 p

H – HB 2744-11, Staff, 3 p

I – HB 2744-7, Staff, 3 p

J – HB 2744-13. Staff, 18 p

K – HB 2744-14, Staff, 18 p