HOUSE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION

April 16, 2003 Hearing Room E

1:00 PM Tapes 69 - 70

MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Vic Backlund, Chair

Rep. Pat Farr, Vice-Chair

Rep. Elaine Hopson, Vice-Chair

Rep. Brad Avakian

Rep. Billy Dalto

Rep. Wayne Scott

MEMBER EXCUSED: Rep. Mary Nolan

STAFF PRESENT: Jim Keller, Committee Administrator

Jeana Harrington, Committee Assistant

MEASURES HEARD: HB 2575 – Work Session

HB 2817 – Work Session

HB 3140 – Work Session

HB 2904 – Work Session

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

TAPE/#	Speaker	Comments
TAPE 69, A
004	Chair Backlund	Calls meeting to order at 1:13 PM. Welcomes members and audience. Opens work session on HB 2575.
HB 2575 – WORK SESSION
009	Jim Keller	Committee Administrator. Reads Staff Measure Summary on HB 2575. Reminds the committee that the -1 amendments have been adopted. Notes the -5 amendments (EXHIBIT A).
018	Chair Backlund	Recalls the latest action of the committee on the measure. Thinks they have come up with a solution with the -5 amendments.
023	Rep. Hopson	MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2575-5 amendments dated 4/15/03.
030		VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 – Nolan, Scott
	Chair Backlund	Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
043	Rep Hopson	Expresses concern with the -5 amendments. Lists reasons.
050	Rep. Hopson	MOTION: Moves HB 2575 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED.
055		VOTE: 6-0-1 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 – Nolan
	Chair Backlund	The motion CARRIES. REP. FARR will lead discussion on the floor.
055	Chair Backlund	Closes work session on HB 2575. Opens work session on HB 2817.
HB 2817 – WORK SESSION
058	Jim Keller	Reads SMS on HB 2817. Informs there are seven amendments (EXHIBITS B – H).
064	Chair Backlund	Comments on the amendments.
071	Andrea Henderson	Oregon Community College Association (OCCA). Notes the concerns they shards last week. Believes the -5 amendments fix the concerns. Explains the changes to the bill.
084	Chair Backlund	Requests if OCCA is comfortable with the -1 amendments.
088	Henderson	Answers that preference of OCAA is with the -5 amendments.
093	Rep. Hopson	Poses question regarding OCCA views on the bill.
098	Henderson	States OCCA does not see the need for the bill and the related task force. Voices hope that the scope of the task force be limited.
104	Chair Backlund	Concurs. Refers the committee to the -7 amendments and asks Rep. Avakian to explain them (EXHIBIT I)
108	Rep. Avakian	Explains the differences in the amendments.
114	Chair Backlund	Adds to Rep. Avakian’s explanation. Speaks on the inclusion of private, not-for-profit colleges. States the -7 amendments are for public schools only.
133	Rep. Hopson	Remarks on her concerns with the bill.
140	Chair Backlund	States the bill will not be moved today. Closes work session on HB 2817. Opens work session on 3140. Notes the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT J).
HB 3140 – WORK SESSION
149	Rep. Cliff Zauner	House District 22. Introduces the issue and his intern. (EXHIBIT K).
160	Matt Reid	Legislative Assistant, Rep. Cliff Zauner. Testifies in favor of HB 3140.
167	Chair Backlund	Asks if the -1 amendments substantially change the bill.
170	Reid	Explains the references for Saturday in the bill have been removed and informs the committee of the intent of the bill. Provides written testimony supporting HB 3140 (EXHIBIT L).
182	Chair Backlund	Asks if he or his fellow students have considered the effects the bill would have on administration or classes.
186	Reid	States that he has not spoken with administration, but with employees and does not see it would interfere with contracts.
194	Rep. Hopson	Requests if there is anyone present from the community colleges who wishes to testify. Asks Mr. Reid who he spoke with on the bill.
200	Reid	Answers he spoke with classified employees of Service Employees International Union (SEIU).
204	Rep. Hopson	Clarifies he spoke with representatives for the SEIU or with individuals.
207	Reid	Answers it was a representative of the organization.
211	Lisa Zavala	Oregon University System (OUS). Testifies in opposition to the bill without the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT M). Submits written testimony from members of OUS (EXHIBIT N).
251	Rem Nivens	OCCA. States the OCCA will need time to go over the amendments. Believes the issue is one of local governance. Adds the bill without amendments would have an immense effect on community colleges.
275	Rep. Hopson	Requests if dates of staff work attendance are specifically listed in contracts.
280	Zavala	Responds that she is unsure the dates are delineated in her contracted but adds dates of observance are outlined.
287	Nivens	States he is also unsure.
301	Chair Backlund	Notes Saturday was removed for the community colleges with the amendments.
310	Reid	Thinks it was.
320	Chair Backlund	Affirms. Does not wish to move the bill today. Thinks the bill is an issue of local governance and that the committee needs to consider whether it should dictate the matter. Closes work session on HB 3140. Opens work session on HB 2904.
HB 2904 – WORK SESSION
343	Jim Keller	Reads SMS on HB 2904.
357	George Houston	Hillsboro Police Department. Introduces himself.
360	John Jones	Retired school employee. Testifies in favor of HB 2904. Presents the committee with information on the Cyber Awareness, Responsibility and Ethics (CARE) program (EXHIBIT O). Defers to Rep. Krummel.
405	Rep. Jerry Krummel	House District 26. Testifies in favor of HB 2904. Notes he works in the area of cyber security. Voices hope the bill is passed on to Ways and Means.
TAPE 70, A
010	George	Lists the groups who have volunteered to work together on the bill.
027	Chair Backlund	Refers to line seven of the bill. Asks the reasoning behind the age established.
032	Jones	Responds that the age set out was the ideal age and adds that pilot tests were used on students at the Boys and Girls Club.
047	Rep. Hopson	Notices a trademark with the logo. Asks if school districts are required to use the certain curriculum.
053	George	Explains the way the program would be trademarked. Informs the committee that the organization wanted control over the agreement.
070	Rep. Hopson	Asks if local district staff would teach the program.
073	Jones	Responds that the idea of the program was for older students to teach younger students. Encourages every district to use the program in the best way they see fit.
085	Rep. Hopson	Requests who trains the older students to teach the younger students.
088	George	Explains the police reserve specialists train the student teachers, and then mentor them in the classroom.
103	Rep. Hopson	Requests where the money goes.
105	Jones	Answers that the grants discussed in the bill would go to the school districts. Notes it is not their intent to dictate anything to districts.
123	Rep. Hopson	States the idea is ‘fabulous’ and that she appreciated the answers to her questions.
136	George	Notes they have done much research on the issue.
141	Carla Wade	Oregon Department of Education (ODE). Offers that she is ‘thrilled’ to see the type of action. Comments on the resources for school in the area.
161	Chair Backlund	Asks if she has a problem with the five percent allocation on page six of the bill.
165	Wade	Responds ODE would request to view the materials and thinks the $10,000 would be less than a set up cost by ODE.
185	Chair Backlund	Requests if Rep. Krummel would be willing to change the allocation percentage if it is not enough.
190	Rep. Krummel	Responds that he is willing to amend it although he wants to use caution with monies to administration. Explains the reasoning for the five percent allocation.
210	Chair Backlund	States he is inclined to move the bill to Ways and Means. Acknowledges that requests for ‘new money’ often have a difficult time, but believes the committee should allow the bill the chance.
222	Rep. Farr	MOTION: Moves HB 2904 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.
225	Rep. Hopson	Informs the committee she will be voting ‘no’ as she believes it will no be passed out of Ways and Means. Lauds the program, but mentions she is wary of requiring ODE to create specifications and monitor the program.
245		VOTE: 5-1-1 AYE: 5 - Avakian, Dalto, Farr, Scott, Backlund NAY: 1 - Hopson EXCUSED: 1 – Nolan
	Chair Backlund	The motion CARRIES.
250	Chair Backlund	Closes work session on HB 2904. Adjourns meeting at 2:00 PM.

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

A – HB 2575-5, Staff, 1 p

B – HB 2817-1, Staff, 1 p

C – HB 2817-2, Staff, 1 p

D – HB 2817-3, Staff, 1 p

E – HB 2817-4, Staff, 1 p

F – HB 2817-5, Staff, 1 p

G – HB 2817-6, Staff, 3 pp

H – HB 2817-7, Staff, 3 pp

I – HB 2817, Rachel Pilliod, 2 pp

J – HB 3140-1, Staff, 2 pp

K – HB 3140-1, Rep. Cliff Zauner, 1 p

L – HB 3140, Various, 7 pp

M – HB 3140, Lisa Zavala, 1 p

N – HB 3140, Lisa Zavala, 7 pp

O – HB 2904, John Jones, 12 pp