HOUSE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
May 2, 2003 Hearing Room E
1:00 PM Tapes 80
- 81
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Vic Backlund, Chair
Rep. Pat Farr, Vice-Chair
Rep. Elaine Hopson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Brad Avakian
Rep. Billy Dalto
Rep. Mary Nolan
Rep. Wayne Scott
STAFF PRESENT: Jim
Keller, Committee Administrator
Jeana Harrington, Committee Assistant
MEASURES HEARD: HJR
56 – Public Hearing
SB 11A – Public Hearing and Work
Session
SB 129 – Public Hearing and Work
Session
SB 761 – Public Hearing and Work Session
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Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 80, A |
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004 |
Chair Backlund |
Calls meeting to order at 1:35 PM. Welcomes
colleagues and audience. Opens public hearing on HJR 56. |
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HJR 56
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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009 |
Jim Keller |
Committee Administrator. Reads Staff Measure Summary
(SMS) on HJR 56. |
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015 |
Rep. Mitch Greenlick |
House District 33. Testifies in favor of HJR 56.
Explains HJR 56 came from a bill proposed earlier in the session. Lists the
concerns the Oregon University System (OUS) had with the earlier bill and
informs the committee of the work the two parties have done. |
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068 |
Chair Backlund |
Informs Rep. Greenlick HB 2817 has passed. |
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077 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Responds he does not see a conflict between the two
bills. |
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085 |
Rep. Hopson |
Poses question regarding the task force. |
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090 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Responds. Speaks on the inclusion of the post-secondary
institutions in the Portland Metropolitan Area. |
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138 |
Rep. Hopson |
Asks if OUS should be the entity to create such a
task force. |
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143 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Thinks the action should come from outside of the
OUS and explains why. |
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153 |
Grattan Kerans |
OUS. Concurs with the conversations between OUS and
Rep. Greenlick. Explains HJR 56 is an improvement, but that OUS remains
opposed to the resolution. Refers the committee to letters provided by
educational heads. Speaks on the other task force created to deal with the
issues already. States that OUS would be comfortable with the resolution
without |
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211 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Explains the item in subsection nine of HJR 56 does
not need to be present. |
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225 |
Rem Nivens |
Oregon Community Colleges Association (OCCA). Echoes
the concerns of OUS. Explains that without the removal of subsection nine,
OCCA also opposes the bill. |
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240 |
Ed Johnston |
Lincoln County. Voices concern with the bill. |
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256 |
Chair Backlund |
Interjects. |
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260 |
Johnston |
Supposes he is testifying on the wrong bill. |
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264 |
Chair Backlund |
Closes public hearing on HJR 56. Opens public
hearing on SB 11. |
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SB 11A
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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275 |
Jim Keller |
Reads SMS on 11A. |
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280 |
Chair Backlund |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on SB
11A. |
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SB 11A
– WORK SESSION |
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286 |
Rep. Hopson
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MOTION: Moves SB 11A to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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291 |
Rep. Hopson |
Reiterates it is an opportunity for smaller school
districts to have a chance. Notes that she supports the ability of school
districts to work together. Adds that in the case presented by SB 11A, larger
districts may have an advantage. |
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308 |
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VOTE:
6-1 AYE: 6 - Avakian, Dalto, Farr, Hopson, Scott, Backlund NAY: 1 - Nolan |
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Chair Backlund |
The motion CARRIES. REP. HOPSON will lead discussion on the
floor. |
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315 |
Chair Backlund |
Closes work session on SB 11A. Opens public hearing
on SB 129. |
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SB 129
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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330 |
Ray Lindley |
ODE. Introduces Diane Baldwin. Testifies in favor of
SB 129 (EXHIBIT A). Summarizes the
issues involved in the measure. Explains the purpose of the bill and its
allowances regarding fees to private career school teachers and students. |
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TAPE 81, A |
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037 |
Chair Backlund |
Asks if there is any opposition to the bill. |
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040 |
Lindley |
States ODE is not aware of any opposition. |
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047 |
Chair |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on SB
129. |
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SB 129
– WORK SESSION |
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048 |
Rep.
Hopson |
MOTION: Moves SB 129 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior
reference. |
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059 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Backlund |
The motion CARRIES. |
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062 |
Chair Backlund |
Closes work session on SB 129. Opens public hearing
on SB 761. |
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SB 761
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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066 |
Jim Keller |
Reads SMS on SB 761. Notes amendments -4, -5, -7, -8
(EXHIBITS B-E). Notes there is no
subsequent referral to Ways and Means. |
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076 |
Marcia Kelley |
American Association of University Women. Provides
information on her agency. Testifies against SB 761. Voices concern for the
bill due to the removal of testing. Thinks the repeal is not well founded. |
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106 |
Chair Backlund |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on SB 761. |
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SB 761
– WORK SESSION |
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110 |
Rep. Farr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 761-4 amendments dated
4/28/03. |
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112 |
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VOTE:
6-1 AYE: 6 - Avakian, Dalto, Farr, Hopson, Scott, Backlund NAY: 1 - Nolan |
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Chair Backlund |
The motion CARRIES. |
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116 |
Rep. Farr |
MOTION:
Moves to ADOPT SB 761-5 amendments dated 4/29/03. |
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119 |
Rep. Nolan |
States she will be a ‘no’ vote |
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122 |
Chair Backlund |
Comments on the -5 amendments. |
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125 |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Nolan |
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Chair Backlund |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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127 |
Rep. Farr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 761-7 amendments dated
4/29/03. |
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132 |
Rep. Hopson |
Asks Mr. Harnisch if the amendment would change
special education requirements for home school requirements from what they
currently are. |
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141 |
Randy Harnisch |
ODE. Understands that districts will continue to need
to have to comply with the Title IX requirement. |
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150 |
Chair Backlund |
Clarifies the intent of the -7 amendments. |
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154 |
Harnisch |
Responds. |
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157 |
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VOTE:
5-2 AYE: 5 - Avakian, Dalto, Farr, Scott, Backlund NAY: 2 - Hopson, Nolan |
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Chair Backlund |
The motion CARRIES. |
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161 |
Rep. Farr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 761-8 amendments dated
4/30/03. |
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163 |
Rep. Hopson |
States she will object to the amendments as she
feels asking parents to determine whether absences are excused or unexcused
renders the purpose moot. |
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173 |
Rep. Dalto |
Remarks on the -7 amendments regarding unexcused
absences. States he has discomfort on the amendments. |
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179 |
Chair Backlund |
Understands that the home school parents and
education service district (ESD) heads worked together to acknowledge
concerns with dropouts and truancy. |
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187 |
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VOTE:
5-2 AYE: 5 - Avakian, Dalto, Farr, Scott, Backlund NAY: 2 - Hopson, Nolan |
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Chair Backlund |
The motion CARRIES. |
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196 |
Rep. Farr |
MOTION: Moves SB 761 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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200 |
Rep. Farr |
Notes reservations for removing registration
requirements for home school students. States it has been mainly overcome by
the amendments. |
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213 |
Rep. Hopson |
States she will vote against the bill. Appreciates
the testimony regarding parental rights and state responsibility. Believes
the ninety percent of home school parents are doing a fine job. Notes the
other ten percent needs protection. Does not feel that the current
requirements are burdensome in any way. Believes the current law is balanced.
Notes a large percentage of parents of home school students do not do well on
the tests. Believes some parents will be untruthful regarding truancy
excuses. |
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248 |
Rep. Dalto |
States that over time he has struggled with a
decision on the bill. Does not think the five to ten percent of families
abusing the system are properly restricted by the bill. Voices concern that
the minority may be affected greatly. Will vote yes as a courtesy. |
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280 |
Rep. Avakian |
Speaks on the five to ten percent of students,
thinks focus should be on the public education system where children are not
receiving the services they need and require. Thinks that five to ten percent
failure rate is commendable. |
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300 |
Chair Backlund |
Speaks on his experiences as a high school history
teacher relating the home school students. Believes it is important to
consider the five to ten percent. |
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323 |
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VOTE:
5-2 AYE: 5 - Avakian, Dalto, Farr, Scott, Backlund NAY: 2 - Hopson, Nolan |
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Chair Backlund |
The motion CARRIES. REP. FARR will lead discussion on the
floor. |
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330 |
Chair Backlund |
Closes work session on SB 761. |
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333 |
Rep. Farr |
Notes the meeting is possibly the committee’s last. |
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338 |
Chair Backlund |
Concurs. |
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341 |
Rep. Farr |
Thanks the committee members for their work. |
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343 |
Chair Backlund |
Adjourns meeting at 2:26 PM. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– SB 129, Ray Lindley, 3 pp
B
– SB 761-4, Staff, 1 p
C
– SB 761-5, Staff, 1 p
D
– SB 761-7, Staff, 1 p
E
– SB 761-8, Staff, 2 pp