HOUSE COMMITTEE ON
ENVIRONMENT AND LAND USE
March 25, 2003 Hearing Room E
8:30 Tapes 41 - 42
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Bill Garrard, Chair
Rep. Dennis Richardson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Cliff Zauner, Vice-Chair
Rep. Robert Ackerman
Rep. Dan Doyle
Rep. Mitch Greenlick
Rep. Diane Rosenbaum
STAFF PRESENT: Ray
Kelly, Committee Administrator
David Peffley, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 2674 – Public Hearing and Work
Session
HB 2755 – Public Hearing
HB 3176 – Work Session
HB 2860 – Public Hearing
HB 2912 – Public Hearing
HB 3175 – Public Hearing
HB 3120 – Public Hearing
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compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 41, A |
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003 |
Chair Garrard |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:40 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2674. |
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HB 2674
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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020 |
Stephen Kafoury |
Affirms dedication to the goals of land use
planning. Gives overview of the issue of land use planning since 1973, and
its benefits to the state. |
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082 |
Mitch Rhose |
Offers a broad overview as to why land use planning
is important. Submits (EXHIBIT A) in support of his
testimony that land use planning is a win-win proposition, offering great
returns for minimal regulation. |
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231 |
Rep. Richardson |
States concern about the connection between land use
planning and the poor economy. |
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241 |
Rhose |
Replies that there is no correlation between the
poor economy and land use planning. |
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253 |
Rep. Richardson |
Points out that rural Oregonians have a different
perception and feel that urban Oregon doesn’t address the needs of rural
Oregon. |
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272 |
Rhose |
Agrees with Rep. Richardson. |
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282 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks how his general comments apply to HB 2674. |
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289 |
Rhose |
States that this is a one-size fits all testimony
and not specific to HB 2674. |
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294 |
Kafoury |
Addresses the perennial attempt to undercut land use
planning and the reason they gave this one-size fits all testimony. |
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313 |
Rhose |
Clarifies that there is a concern for piece-meal
modifications which undermine land use planning. |
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322 |
Kafoury |
Cites the mill citing bill as an example. |
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340 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2674 and opens a
work session on HB 2674. |
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HB 2674
– WORK SESSION |
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344 |
Rep.
Richardson |
MOTION: Moves HB
2674 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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350 |
Rep. Doyle |
Affirms support, but expresses a concern with the
introduction of too many unfocused piece-meal bills. States the need for a
coherent plan. |
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378 |
Chair Garrard |
Addresses Rep. Doyle’s concern and the number of
bills before the committee and concurs with Rep. Doyle. Points out direction the committee will
proceed. |
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425 |
Rep Ackerman |
Notes agreement with Rep. Doyle’s concerns. Points out that HB 2912 which will be
heard later in the meeting would be a good vehicle for bringing up a cohesive
all-inclusive land-use policy. |
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Tape 42, A |
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005 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
States that she will vote for HB 2674, but brings
forth her concern with the limited testimony on the issue. |
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015 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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020 |
Rep.
Garrard |
MOTION: Moves HB 2674 be placed on the CONSENT
CALENDAR. |
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025 |
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VOTE:
7-0 |
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026 |
Chair |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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027 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the Work Session on HB 2674 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2755. |
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HB 2755
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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030 |
Ray Kelly |
Summarizes HB 2755. |
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042 |
Clif Kenagy |
Submits (EXHIBIT
B) and testifies in opposition to HB 2755, in order to support the real
farmers as opposed to the hobby farmers.
States that the $80,000 rule is not a problem and that the problem is
with the public perception of farming. |
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093 |
Mark Tipperman |
States that he and his wife are in Oregon because of
land use planning. Testifies in
opposition to HB 2755 in order to protect Oregon’s agricultural base. |
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138 |
Carrie MacLaren |
1000 Friends of Oregon. Submits (EXHIBIT C) and testifies in opposition to HB 2755, stating that
farm lands need to be protected for farmers. |
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200 |
Glen Stonebrink |
Submits (EXHIBIT
D) and testifies with support for HB 2755, in that the 80K rule is
arbitrary and just benefits special interest groups. |
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232 |
Don Schellenberg |
Oregon Farm Bureau (OFB). Submits (EXHIBIT E)
and testifies in opposition to HB 2755.
States that passage of the bill would undermine statutory changes
which protect farmland for farmers. |
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273 |
Peter Kenagy |
Testifies that HB 2755 is an attack on farming and
vehemently opposes the legislation. States that he wouldn’t be able to farm had
it not been for SB 100. |
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302 |
Peter Hainley |
Community and Shelter Assistance Corp (CASA). Submits (EXHIBIT F) and testifies in opposition to HB 2755, as it would
undermine much work agreed to by a wide coalition during the 71st
Legislative Assembly. |
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340 |
Lynn Partin |
Farmworker Programs Representative. Submits (Exhibit G) and testifies in opposition to HB 2755, as not to
dismantle the previously attested to coalition. |
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355 |
Rep. Richardson |
Asks about seasonal workers from the definition of
accessory dwellings. |
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361 |
Partin |
Addresses concerns relating to accessory dwellings. |
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364 |
Ron Eber |
Submits (EXHIBIT
H) and testifies with his concerns about HB 2755. Opposes HB 2755 as written. |
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431 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
Asks about the potential effect of removing the
ambiguous language in the present statute. |
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TAPE 41, B |
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004 |
Eber |
States the consequences which would lead to
conflicts and undermine the farmland base. |
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014 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
Asks if LCDC would have a role to play in the
process. |
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017 |
Eber |
Replies that according to his reading, LCDC would be
essentially rendered powerless. |
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020 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2755 and opens a
work session on HB 3176. |
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HB 3176
– WORK SESSION |
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032 |
Ray Kelly |
Summarizes the previous testimony on HB 3176. |
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032 |
Rep. Richardson |
Summarizes Rep. Scott’s earlier testimony on HB 3176. |
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040 |
Jon Chandler |
Restates the informational testimony on HB 3176. |
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062 |
Rep.
Greenlick |
MOTION: Moves HB
3176 to the floor WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION as to passage and BE REFERRED
to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference. |
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075 |
Rep. Doyle |
States disagreement with moving the bill without
recommendation. |
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083 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
States support for the motion. |
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105 |
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VOTE:
5-2 AYE: 5 - Ackerman, Greenlick, Richardson, Rosenbaum,
Zauner NAY: 2 - Doyle, Garrard |
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110 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. |
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118 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on HB 3176 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2860. |
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HB 2860
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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122 |
Ray Kelly |
Summarizes HB 2860. |
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125 |
Dave Riley |
Testifies with strong support for HB 2860 in order
to safeguard business opportunities and to allow local governments the
opportunity to consider these projects on their own merits. |
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159 |
Don Schellenberg |
OFB. Submits
(EXHIBIT I) and testifies against
HB 2860 in that the requested authority stretches beyond urban growth
boundaries. |
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192 |
Glen Stonebrink |
Speaks with support for HB 2860 and testifies that
counties should be more involved in the decision-making processes. |
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214 |
Dave Hunnicutt |
Oregonians In Action (OIA). Testifies with support for HB 2860. Offers background to the issues and
exceptions involved. |
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333 |
Harlan Levy |
Supports HB 2860 in order to achieve an exception
and to remedy the situation. |
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340 |
Mike Collmeyer |
Submits (EXHIBIT
J) and testifies in strong opposition to HB 2860 as it would be harmful
to the balance between conservation and development. |
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373 |
Ron Eber |
Testifies in opposition to HB 2860 as it removes the
statutory standard and changes the previous analyses. |
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410 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Asks the panel if the suitability factor is embodied
in some administrative rule for the exception process. |
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431 |
Eber |
Responds to the rules exceptions interpretation. |
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435 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Restates previous question. |
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441 |
Eber |
Clarifies the rules further. |
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TAPE 42, B |
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002 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Requests the applicable rules be provided to the committee. |
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010 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2860 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2912. |
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HB 2912
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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012 |
Chair Garrard |
Announces amendments to come forth. |
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015 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Notes interest on behalf of the governor’s office
and requests that HB 2912 be put
off until next Thursday in order to meet their schedule. |
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020 |
Chair |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2912 and opens a
public hearing on HB 3175. |
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PH 3175
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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030 |
Ray Kelly |
Summarizes HB 3175. |
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033 |
Rep. Knopp |
Testifies in support of HB 3175 in order to achieve
balance between business and the
environment. States the intentions
and effects of this bill. |
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094 |
Stephanie Hallock |
Director, Department of Environmental Quality
(DEQ). Submits (EXHIBIT K) and testifies in favor of HB 3175. Reaffirms Knopp’s testimony and stresses
that this legislation is vital for revitalizing the Willamette River. |
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145 |
Katherine VanNatta |
Northwest Pulp and Paper Association (NWPPA). Supports the concepts of HB 3175 and asks
for inclusion in any work group which might arise, as permit holders along
the Willamette River. |
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188 |
Matt Blevins |
Oregon Environmental Council (OEC). Testifies in support of HB 3175, in order to help clean up
the Willamette River and other contaminated rivers in Oregon. |
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260 |
Chair Garrard |
Announces the formation of a work group, appointing
Director Hallock as the chair. Directs the work group to report back to the
committee on April 10. Closes
the public hearing on HB 3175 and
opens a public hearing on HB 3120. |
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The following prepared testimony is submitted for
the record without public testimony for HB 3175. |
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Rhett Lawrence |
Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT L). |
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HB 3120
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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275 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3120 and adjourns
the meeting at 10:26. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 2674, written testimony, Mitch Rhose, 2 pp.
B
– HB 2755, written testimony, Clif Kenagy, 2 pp.
C
– HB 2755, written testimony, Carrie MacLaren, 3 pp.
D
– HB 2755, written testimony, Glen Stonebrink, 1 p.
E
– HB 2755, written testimony, Don Schellenberg, 2 pp.
F
– HB 2755, written testimony, Peter Hainley, 1 p.
G
– HB 2755, written testimony, Lynn Partin, 1 p.
H
– HB 2755, written testimony, Ron Eber, 8 pp.
I
– HB 2860, written testimony, Don Schellenberg, 2 pp.
J
– HB 2860, written testimony, Michael Collmeyer, 1 p.
K – HB 3175, written testimony, Stephanie Hallock, 3 pp.
L – HB 3175, written testimony, Rhett Lawrence, 1 p.