HOUSE COMMITTEE ON
ENVIRONMENT AND LAND USE
April 15, 2003 Hearing Room HR E
8:30 AM Tapes 58
- 59
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Bill Garrard, Chair
Rep. Dennis Richardson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Cliff Zauner, Vice-Chair
Rep. Robert Ackerman
Rep. Dan Doyle
Rep. Mitch Greenlick
Rep. Diane Rosenbaum
STAFF PRESENT: Ray
Kelly, Committee Administrator
David Peffley, Committee Assistant
MEASURES HEARD: HB
3017 – Work Session
HJR 35 – Work Session
HB 3144 – Work Session
HB 2910 – Work Session
HB 3228 – Work Session
HB 2369 – Work Session
HB 2614 – Work Session
HB 3521 – Work Session
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 58, A |
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003 |
Chair Garrard |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:43 and opens a work
session on HB 3017. |
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HB 3017 – WORK SESSION |
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020 |
Chad Johnson |
Polk County landowner. Announces amendments to be forthcoming and speaks on their
effects. Submits (EXHIBIT A), (EXHIBIT B), and
(EXHIBIT C) and testifies that
urban growth boundaries do not do anything but raise the prices of property,
contrary to the assertion of 1000 Friends of Oregon. |
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120 |
Greg Smith |
HD 57. Testifies
regarding EFU zones and the need to open more lands where it makes sense and
has no negative environmental impact. |
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172 |
Rep. Doyle |
Asks about the intentions of the amendments. |
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175 |
Johnson |
Addresses the amendments. |
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180 |
Greg Smith |
Continues with the amendment as it relates to the boundaries
of the golf course. |
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203 |
Rep. Doyle |
Asks Johnson about his personal interest in HB 3017. |
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206 |
Johnson |
Notes that he owns land in the area. |
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219 |
Rep. Doyle |
Asks Johnson if the land was originally farmland. |
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222 |
Johnson |
Notes that it was and mentions his intentions in
purchasing the land. |
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229 |
Rep. Doyle |
Asks for confirmation that the land was purchased
for speculation. |
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231 |
Johnson |
Affirms that is the case. |
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254 |
Don Schellenberg |
Oregon Farm Bureau (OFB). Submits (EXHIBIT D)
and testifies in opposition to HB 3017, in that farm zones are for farming
and this bill undermines that principle. |
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292 |
Ron Eber |
Department of Land Conservation and Development
(DLCD). Testifies against HB 3017,
echoing OFB’s testimony. |
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322 |
Carrie MacLaren |
1000 Friends of Oregon. Echoes testimony of OFB and DLCD in opposition to HB 3017. |
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331 |
Chair Garrard |
Announces two amendments to be forthcoming. Closes the work session on HB 3017 and
opens a work session on HJR 35. |
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HJR 35 |
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362 |
Michael Carrier |
Director, Oregon Parks and Recreation (ODPR). Submits (EXHIBIT E) and testifies in opposition to HJR 35 as it would
redirect funds earmarked for improvements to State Parks. |
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400 |
Jagodnik |
Director, Oregon Recreation and Park Association
(ORPA). Submits (EXHIBIT F) and echoes OPR’s testimony in opposition to HJR 35. |
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423 |
Rep.
Greenlick |
MOTION: Moves HJR 35 to the floor WITHOUT
RECOMMENDATION as to passage and BE REFERRED to the committee on Revenue. |
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427 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call
vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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434 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. |
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Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on HJR 35 and opens a work
session on HB 3144. |
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The following prepared testimony is submitted for
the record without public testimony. |
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Jim Myron |
Submits (EXHIBIT
Q) |
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Hilary Abraham |
Submits (EXHIBIT
R) |
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Stephen Bosak |
Submits (EXHIBIT
S) |
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Tape 59, A |
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HB 3144
– WORK SESSION |
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016 |
Mark Nelson |
Glass Packaging Institute. Affirms the ongoing partnership between the Department of
Environmental Quality (DEQ) and the Glass Packaging Institute and speaks to
glass recycling plants and programs.
Testifies in favor of HB 3144. |
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055 |
Bob Danko |
DEQ. Speaks
to recycling target rates in support of HB 3144. |
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092 |
Rep.
Richardson |
MOTION: Moves HB
3144 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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098 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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101 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. REP. ROSENBAUM will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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106 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on HB 3144 and opens a work
session on HB 2910. |
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HB 2910
– WORK SESSION |
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112 |
Ross Day |
Oregonians In Action. Speaks to template dwellings in farm zones in support of HB
2910. |
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125 |
Glen Stonebrink |
Affirms Day’s testimony in order to expand housing
opportunities. |
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144 |
John Brosey |
DLCD. Submits
(EXHIBIT G) and testifies in favor
of HB 2910. Addresses embedded
parcels within EFU zones. |
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170 |
Don Schellenberg |
Submits (EXHIBIT
H) and testifies that template tests are an efficient way of citing
dwellings in a farm zone. |
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185 |
Carrie MacLaren |
Submits (EXHIBIT
I), (EXHIBIT J) and (EXHIBIT K) and
testifies against HB 2910, as it will compromise high-value farmland within
EFU zones. |
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211 |
Rep.
Richardson |
MOTION: Moves HB 2910 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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214 |
Rep. Doyle |
Notes that he’ll give a courtesy vote to get the
bill to the floor, but is reserving judgment and could change his vote on the
floor. |
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223 |
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VOTE:
4-3 AYE: 4 - Doyle, Richardson, Zauner, Garrard NAY: 3 - Ackerman, Greenlick, Rosenbaum |
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238 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. REP. GARRARD will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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241 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on HB 2910 and opens a work
session on HB 3228. |
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HB 3228
– WORK SESSION |
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250 |
Ray Kelly |
Summarizes HB 3228 and explains the effects of the
-1 amendments (EXHIBIT L). |
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265 |
Art Schlack |
Association of Oregon Counties (AOC). Submits -2 amendments (EXHIBIT M) and explains the change in language in relation to Goal 18.
Notes the wide-spread support for the -2 amendments. |
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286 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks for
clarification that this legislation only applies to development before 1977. |
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288 |
Schlack |
Affirms that is correct. |
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291 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks the effects of ORS 396.40 |
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300 |
Michael Carrier |
ODPR. Notes
that ODPR does not necessarily support the bill, but finds the amendments to
be acceptable. Addresses the effects
of ORS 396.40. |
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318 |
Chair Garrard |
Notes that Oregon Shores would prefer to see the
legislation to be amended and may
introduce amendments in the Senate. |
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325 |
Randy Tucker |
1000 Friends of Oregon. States that the amendments do not change their position. Reaffirms opposition to HB 3228. |
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337 |
Rep.
Richardson |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3228-2 amendments dated 4/14/03. |
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348 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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352 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. |
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354 |
Rep.
Richardson |
MOTION: Moves HB 3228 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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355 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
States that she is not comfortable with this bill in
its present form and can not vote for its passage. |
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369 |
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VOTE:
6-1 AYE: 6 - Ackerman, Doyle, Greenlick, Richardson,
Zauner, Garrard NAY: 1 - Rosenbaum |
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379 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. REP. BROWN will lead discussion on the
floor. |
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Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on HB 3228 and opens a work
session on HB 2369. |
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HB 2369
– WORK SESSION |
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393 |
Ray Kelly |
Summarizes HB 2369. |
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423 |
Chair Garrard |
Recesses the meeting. |
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425 |
Chair Garrard |
Reconvenes the meeting. |
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TAPE 58, A |
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002 |
Rep. Tootie Smith |
Submits (EXHIBIT
N) and testifies in support of HB 2369, asserting that the bill will deal
with the controlversial $80,000 test. |
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018 |
Rep. Doyle |
Asks Rep. Smith about OFB’s opposition to the
change. |
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022 |
Rep. Smith |
States that she does not know what their opposition
is based upon. |
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037 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Asks about the intent of the bill and the
clarification of the regulatory process. |
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050 |
Rep. Smith |
States that the bill will cause DLCD to look at soil
factors, rather than relying upon the arbitrary $80,000 test. |
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053 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Asks for confirmation whether HB 2369 nullifies the
$80,000 test. |
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055 |
Rep. Smith |
Notes that the $80,000 test is an administrative
rule, but not a law. |
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058 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Restates his question of whether the rule would be
nullified by this legislation. |
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061 |
Rep. Smith |
Affirms that it is not. |
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063 |
Schellenberg |
Notes that the bill has not changed. States OFB’s opposition to the capability
test. |
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074 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves HB 2369 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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076 |
Rep. Richardson |
States that the intent of the legislation is to get
rid of the arbitrary $80,000 rule, although it is not explicitly stated in
the bill. |
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081 |
Rep. Ackerman |
States that he is taking Rep. Smith at her word and
believes that this bill does not remove the $80,000 test. |
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086 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
States that a better system has not been proposed
and therefore will vote no on HB 2369. |
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094 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Notes that his district is greatly opposed to this
legislation and will therefore be voting no. |
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107 |
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VOTE:
5-2 AYE: 5 - Ackerman, Doyle, Richardson, Zauner, Garrard NAY: 2 - Greenlick, Rosenbaum |
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114 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. REP. T. SMITH will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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121 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on HB 3228 and opens a work
session on HB 2614. |
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HB 2614
– WORK SESSION |
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123 |
Chair Garrard |
Announces the -5 amendments (EXHIBIT O). |
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130 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2614-5 amendments dated
4/15/03. |
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132 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
Asks for an explanation of the -5 amendments. |
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136 |
Rep. Zauner |
Notes that the -5 amendments are of the gut and
stuff variety. Submits (EXHIBIT P) – the map of Woodburn. |
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154 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks about expansion of the urban growth boundary. |
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157 |
Rep. Zauner |
References the letter from the City of Woodburn. |
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170 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Asks about the design of the bill and who the
proponents of the bill. |
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187 |
Rep. Zauner |
Notes the landowner, Johnny Wise and the geography of
Woodburn. |
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205 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
States concern that this bill is different from the
original. Asks if any testimony will
be forthcoming on the bill. |
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222 |
Ray Kelly |
Notes that there is a motion on the table |
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235 |
Rep. Doyle |
Clarifies the rules for the committee. |
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255 |
Lolita Carl |
Speaks in opposition to HB 2614 and states that the
-5 amendments circumvents the process by which a city goes through to enlarge
the urban growth boundary. |
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278 |
Roger Kaye |
Testifies against the -5 amendments, as they set a
poor precedent and would exacerbate congestion in the area. |
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320 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks for confirmation of Woodburn’s capability
regarding the rules. |
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324 |
Kaye |
Discusses the process of transferring land from
county to city. |
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344 |
Carla Michaelson |
Testifies in opposition to HB 2614. Discusses the periodic review process and
that this legislation circumvents that process. |
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394 |
Theodora Tarbett. |
Testifies in opposition to HB 2614 and notes that
with businesses going out of business, we shouldn’t need to expand the urban
growth boundaries. |
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430 |
Kay Peterson |
Woodburn resident.
Opposes HB 2614 and the -5 amendments. Affirms prior testimony and states that it takes citizens out
of the process. |
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TAPE 59, B |
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002 |
Cameron LaFollette |
Friends of Marion County. Affirms the prior testimony.
Notes that expansion of the urban growth boundary via HB 2614 would circumvent
the entire public hearing process. |
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024 |
Rep. Zauner |
Withdraws the motion to adapt the -5 amendments. |
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041 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on HB 2614 and opens a work
session on HB 3521. |
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HB 3521
– WORK SESSION. |
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047 |
John Ledger |
Associated Oregon Industries (AOI). Speaks in opposition to HB 3521 in order
to help spur economic growth in the state of Oregon. |
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084 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on HB 3521 and adjourns the
meeting at 10:16 A.M. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 3017, written testimony, Chad Johnson, 3 pp.
B
– HB 3017, written information, Chad Johnson, 6 pp.
C
– HB 3017, written information, Chad Johnson, 4 pp.
D
– HB 3017, written testimony, Don Schellenberg, 1 p.
E
– HJR 35, written testimony, Michael Carrier, 2 pp.
F
– HJR 35, written testimony, Frank Jagodnik, 1 p.
G
– HB 2910, written testimony, John Brosey, 3 pp.
H
– HB 2910, written testimony, Don Schellenberg, 2 pp.
I
– HB 2910, written information, Carrie MacLaren, 1 p.
J
– HB 2910, written information, Carrie MacLaren, 1 p.
K
– HB 2910 written testimony, Carrie MacLaren,
L
– HB 3228, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p.
M
– HB 3228, -2 amendments, Art Schlack, 3 pp.
N
– HB 2369, written testimony, Rep. Tootie Smith, 1 p.
O
– HB 2614, -5 amendments, Rep. Cliff Zauner, 1 p.
P
– HB 2614, written information, Rep. Cliff Zauner, 2 pp.
The
following exhibits are listed out of order in the tape log.
Q
– HJR 35, Jim Myron, 1 p.
R
– HJR 35, Hilary Abraham, 1 p.
S
– HJR 35, Stephen A. Bosak, 1 p.