HOUSE COMMITTEE ON
ENVIRONMENT AND LAND USE
April 22, 2003 Hearing Room E
8:30 AM Tapes
63 - 64
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Bill Garrard, Chair
Rep. Dennis Richardson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Cliff Zauner, Vice-Chair
Rep. Robert Ackerman
Rep. Dan Doyle
Rep. Mitch Greenlick
Rep. Diane Rosenbaum
STAFF PRESENT: Ray
Kelly, Committee Administrator
David Peffley, Committee Assistant
MEASURES HEARD: SB
310 –Work Session
HB 2849 – Reconsideration and Work
Session
SB 667A – Work Session
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Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 63, A |
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003 |
Chair Garrard |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:42 a.m. Announces that the amendments to HB 2849
will be available after 10:00 a.m. and opens a work session on SB 310. |
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SB 310
– WORK SESSION |
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033 |
Ray Kelly |
Summarizes SB 310. |
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051 |
Chair Garrard |
Introduces (EXHIBIT
A) submitted by Friends of the Columbia Gorge. Recesses the meeting at 8:47.
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056 |
Chair Garrard |
Reconvenes the meeting. |
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058 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on SB 310 and opens a
reconsideration and work session on HB 2849. |
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HB 2849
– RECONSIDERATION AND WORK SESSION |
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063063 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of reconsidering the
vote on HB 2849. |
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066 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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069 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. |
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073 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which HB
2849 was sent to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation." |
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076 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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087 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. |
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094 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the reconsideration of HB 2849 and opens the
work session on SB 310. |
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SB 310
– WORK SESSION |
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101 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Sponsor of the legislation testifies with support
for SB 310 as to standardize the presumed preemption and make all counties
compliant. |
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194 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
Asks Senator Ferrioli whether he has sought advice
from legal counsel. |
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198 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Asserts that he has and informs the committee of the
advice they have given. |
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220 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
Cites written testimony and asks about any
constitutional conflicts. |
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225 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Refers to the preemption. |
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241 |
Rep. Greenlick |
References the Staff Measure Summary and asks about
the reasonable time extension request as it relates to the ORS. |
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250 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
States that it will remain unchanged. |
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254 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks about consequences and their viability. |
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262 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Speaks to the appeal process and due process. |
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279 |
Rep. Ackerman |
States his view that there is no preemption with
relation to this bill. Gives legal
explanation to his support for SB 310 and concurs with Senator Ferrioli’s
legally correct logic. |
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311 |
Rep. Richardson |
Adds insight to the U.S. Constitution’s enumeration
clause as it relates to states’ jurisdiction. |
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320 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the invited testimony portion of the work
session on SB 310 |
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329 |
Rep.
Ackerman |
MOTION: Moves SB
310 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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331 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
Asks the committee administrator what the vote count
was in the Senate on SB 310. |
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333 |
Ray Kelly |
Answers that the vote was 19-9 with two excused for
business. |
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358 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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362 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. REP. ACKERMAN will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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366 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on SB 310 and opens a work
session on SB 667A. |
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SB 667A
– WORK SESSION |
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380 |
Ray Kelly |
Summarizes SB 667A. |
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390 |
John DiLorenzo |
Western Fireworks Display, Inc. Submits (EXHIBIT B) and testifies in favor of SB 667A which will allow
Western Fireworks to continue operation in a manner which doesn’t alter our
current land use planning system. |
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TAPE 64, A |
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013 |
DiLorenzo |
Continues testimony. Addresses the compromise reached with 1000 Friends which
allowed the present legislation to come forth. Also states that Oregon Farm Bureau
(OFB) has no objections with the legislation. |
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062 |
Rep. Wayne Scott |
HD 39.
Testifies in favor of SB 667A.
Offers a brief history of Western Fireworks and its importance to the
community of Canby. |
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086 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Asks about the conditional use process in the case
of the passage of SB 667A. |
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090 |
DiLorenzo |
Replies that is correct. |
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093 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Asks if the permits are granted for a specified
period of time. |
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098 |
DiLorenzo |
Notes that the permits are issued for a lengthy but
finite period of time. |
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108 |
Bill Zuber |
Clackamas County Christmas tree farmer. Submits (EXHIBIT C) and states that he previously was denied a fireworks
manufacturing permit. Opposes SB 667A
in that it would benefit only one business, although he would support an
amended, more inclusive version which would address the issues of other
business owners such as his own. |
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180 |
Rep. Richardson |
States that Zuber is mixing separate issues and
recommends taking an all-inclusive approach. |
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196 |
Zuber |
States that he is trying to do just that. |
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212 |
Laura Borders |
States that she would support passage of a revised
amendment along the lines of those suggested by Rep. Richardson to help other
businesses. |
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230 |
Chair Garrard |
States that they will bring the bill back for
another work session when Senator Schrader can address the committee. |
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238 |
DiLorenzo |
States that he doesn’t necessarily oppose making the
bill more inclusive, however addresses his opinion that all parties seem to
be pleased with the present legislation and that it is a good bill. |
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268 |
Robert Gobet |
Western Fireworks.
Addresses Western Fireworks standing with regard to regulations and
inspections. |
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291 |
Rep. Zauner |
States concern of the issue of fairness and asks
DiLorenzo if he could deal with the previously-mentioned concerns of the
opponents of the bill. |
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300 |
DiLorenzo |
States that they are neutral to that idea, but that
other interest groups might need to address this issue. Speaks to the reality
of jobs being lost if this does not pass.
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321 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the invited testimony SB 667 and opens a work
session on HB 2849. |
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HB 2849
– WORK SESSION |
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333 |
Ray Kelly |
Explains the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT D) to HB 2849. |
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350 |
Dave Hunnicutt |
Speaks to the -2 amendments and what they are
attempting to address. |
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TAPE 63, B |
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005 |
Hunnicutt |
Continues testimony in support of HB 2849. Asserts that the amendments pay heed to
Land Use Planning Goals. |
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098 |
Rep. Richardson |
Expresses support for HB 2849 and offers support for
the public policy direction in which this legislation heads. |
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107 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks for clarification on shall, may, and must
contained in Page 1 Line 11. |
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120 |
Hunnicutt |
Addresses Rep. Greenlick’s concern as it relates to
farm zones. |
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133 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Asks for clarification on the general policy
directive of HB 2849. |
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151 |
Hunnicutt |
Addresses the requirement that zones be rural in
nature. Also states that these farm
zones are not likely to be situated in Exclusive Farm Use (EFU) zones. Notes implications on Measure 30, dealing
with counties, and that the legislation is likely to require a subsequent
referral to ways and means. |
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191 |
Rep. Richardson |
Asks if the subsequent referral would still be
required if the shall were to be
changed to may. |
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200 |
Hunnicutt |
Replies that it still would. Responds to resource designations and the
compromises arrived at. |
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218 |
Art Schlack |
Association of Oregon Counties (AOC). States that it is clear that the -2 amendments create an unfunded
mandate. States that AOC would have
to oppose this bill with the -2 amendments. Asserts that discretionary
regional problem solving is AOC’s preferred approach. |
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266 |
Randy Tucker |
1000 Friends of Oregon. States that 1000 Friends still oppose the bill, but appreciate
the work Hunnicutt has done to improve the legislation. |
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300 |
Chair Garrard |
References Klamath Falls and offers his
interpretation of the bill. |
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314 |
Tucker |
States agreement with the Chair’s interpretation,
yet states that their opposition stems from urban development outside of
urban growth boundaries (UGB). |
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353 |
Chair Garrard |
Asks about 1000 Friends’ opposition siting parcels
on non-resource land. |
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360 |
Tucker |
States that there still need to be standards in the
development of non-resource lands. |
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400 |
Ron Eber |
Department of Land Conservation and Development (DLCD). Addresses concerns with regards to rural
and coastal zones. |
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430 |
Tucker |
Adds that HB 2849 is not the best use of funds to
address development. |
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TAPE 64, B |
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012 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2849-2 amendments dated 4/22/03. |
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018 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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020 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. |
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024 |
Rep.
Zauner |
MOTION: Moves HB
2849 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE
REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means. |
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029 |
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VOTE:
5-2 AYE: 5 - Ackerman, Doyle, Richardson, Zauner, Garrard NAY: 2 - Greenlick, Rosenbaum |
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030 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. |
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Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on HB 2849 and re-opens the
work session on SB 667A. |
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SB
667-A WORK SESSION |
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034 |
Rep. Doyle
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MOTION: Moves SB 667A to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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041 |
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VOTE:
7-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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042 |
Chair Garrard |
The motion CARRIES. REP. SCOTT will lead discussion on the
floor. |
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051 |
Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on SB 667A and adjourns the
meeting at 10:18 A.M. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– SB 310, written testimony, Chairman Bill Garrard, 4 pp.
B
– SB 667A, written testimony, John DiLorenzo, 48 pp.
C
– SB 667A, written testimony, Bill Zuber, 4 pp.
D
– HB 2849, -2 amendments, staff, 2 pp.