HOUSE COMMITTEE ON GENERAL GOVERNMENT

 

 

March 06, 2003   Hearing Room D

8:30 AM Tapes  29 - 31

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Jerry Krummel, Chair

Rep. Donna Nelson, Vice-Chair

Rep. Floyd Prozanski, Vice-Chair

Rep. Brad Avakian

Rep. John Mabrey

Rep. Kelley Wirth

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:             Rep. Derrick Kitts

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Patrick Brennan, Committee Administrator

Jeana Harrington, Committee Assistant

 

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:            HB 2743 – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                Informational Meeting – Central Hearing Officer Panel, Tom Ewing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 29, A

004

Chair Krummel

Calls meeting to order at 8:35 AM. Opens public hearing on HB 2743.

HB 2743 PUBLIC HEARING

006

Patrick Brennan

Committee Administrator. Reads Staff Measure Summary (SMS) on HB 2743.

 

Rep. Tim Knopp

Submits written testimony in support of HB 2743 prior to the meeting (EXHIBIT A).

010

Rep. John Mabrey

House District 59. Testifies in favor of HB 2743 (EXHIBIT B). Provides background of the bill with regard to the Oregon Veteran’s Home (OVH). Explains the land provided for the home. Discusses state funding of the home. Explains how circumstances have changed. States there is no request for funding by the bill and that if the opportunity arises the general fund would include the OVH. Reiterates his remarks are not critical to veterans.

126

Rep. Nelson

Requests an estimate of funds needed for the added wing. 

137

Rep. Mabrey

Responds he is unsure. Estimates the hospital is spending around a million dollars per year to operate OVH currently.

155

Rep. Nelson

Wonders if the veterans are ineligible for other health care due to the OVH.

162

Rep. Mabrey

States he does not know. Explains that he understands veterans of Oregon cannot take money from the Oregon Health Plan (OHP).

177

Chair Krummel

Discusses a veterans’ home in Vancouver and asks if qualifying veterans could got to the home in the Dalles.

182

Rep. Mabrey

Responds he is unsure.

186

Chair Krummel

Clarifies the home cannot qualify as a Medicaid provider.

214

Jon Mangis

Director, Department of Veterans Affairs (DVA). Mentions the DVA is not requesting any funds. Testifies in favor of HB 2743. Notes the funding the DVA has applied for and received for the OVH. Invites the legislators to visit the home. Explains the intentions of the OVH. Notes the support of the Governor for the bill although his budget includes no money for the OVH. Describes the expectations in the operation of the OVH.

TAPE 30, A

003

Mangis

Notes a nursing program associated with the OVH. Speaks to the current needs in the health care profession. Discusses original legislation. Offers that a fund has been created to raise money for the home and discusses aspects of its maintenance. Notes that the federal government is finding it more efficient for states to create veterans’ homes. Offers the jobs and funds created by the OVH.     

160

Staryl Austin

Chair, Veterans’ Affairs Advisory Committee. Notes the committee unanimously approved the bill.

170

Rep. Wirth

Requests the number of volunteers to the OVH.

174

Mangis

Responds that there is a solid volunteer organization involving citizens and veterans.

196

Rep. Wirth

Wonders whether the regulations involving volunteers to the OVH deter those from contributing time.

205

Mangis

Responds that even he had a background check. Adds that there is a reason for security.

221

Chair Krummel

Asks if there are veterans’ homes in Oregon and Idaho.

225

Mangis

Lists homes in Idaho and Washington.

230

Chair Krummel

Asks where the home is located.

235

Mangis

Answers Spokane. Notes California’s homes.

244

Chair Krummel

Explains his consideration for those near borders of states.

248

Mangis

Responds to the idea.

253

Chair Krummel

Speaks to the timeframe of the federal VA homes. Asks if OVH is under the same guidelines.

257

Mangis

Answers the home is not and explains.

282

Chair Krummel

Poses question regarding timeframe for contacts.

284

Mangis

Responds every 36 months

285

Rep. Nelson

Requests the costs of annual operation for the OVH.

300

Mangis

Answers $16.2 million was requested.

310

Rep. Nelson

Clarifies the figure is for the OVH.

314

Mangis

Affirms.

320

Rep. Nelson

Requests the total DVA budget.

325

Mangis

Answers $2.5 million general fund and describes allocations.

TAPE 29, B

003

Mangis

Continues discussion of cash flow. Notes the credit rating reduction DVA was part of.

035

Chair Krummel

Comments on the forms.

037

Rep. Nelson

Requests the cost to open the other wing.

040

Mangis

Estimates the figure, full occupancy, would be around $1.27 Million.

057

Walter Crews

Non-Commissioned Officers Association (NCOA). Explains the situations of the officers with regard to NCOA. Testifies in favor of HB 2743 (EXHIBIT C). Expresses the desire to have a full facility and need for a second.

103

Dennis Hooyman

Veteran. Testifies in favor of HB 2743. Notes the veterans are not requesting funding, only access to the general fund if it becomes available. Describes his perception of veterans’ homes in other states throughout his life. Describes the bond between veterans to illustrate volunteering.

166

Greg Warnock

Oregon Veterans’ Association (OVA). Notes Oregon is the state with the highest percentage of veterans per capita. Testifies in favor of HB 2743 (EXHIBIT D). Offers there is only enough money in the trust fund for the next biennium. States the bill is one of the most important for the biennium.

224

Crews

Notes the list of voting member organizations provided in EXHIBIT C.

237

Peter Detrant, Jr.

Veteran. Asks how many veterans are currently being served.

245

Chair Krummel

Responds 109.

247

Detrant

Asks the budget.

250

Chair Krummel

Clarifies the budget.

253

Detrant

Responds with his belief in cost reduction concerning administration.

280

Rep. Avakian

Comments.

285

Detrant

Comments on the value of a veteran.

312

Chair Krummel

Points out the reduction many state employees are taking already.

316

Detrant

Responds that they should publicize that.

325

Chair Krummel

Closes public hearing and opens work session on HB 2743.

HB 2743 WORK SESSION

330

Brennan

Notes that the bill has been requested to be moved to the floor by the Speaker.

335

Rep. Mabrey

MOTION:  Moves HB  2743 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED.

347

Rep. Prozanski

States he supports the bill. Comments on the emergency clause.

352

Chair Krummel

Asks Rep. Mabrey is he knows.

360

Rep. Mabrey

Responds concerning drafting the bill and the clause.

370

Rep. Prozanski

Comments that the clause may need to be removed.

393

Rep. Wirth

Supports Rep. Prozanski’s suggestion. States she will give a courtesy vote to the bill regardless. Comments on her family’s involvement in the military. Speaks to the budget.

TAPE 30, B

017

Rep. Nelson

Expresses she supports the bill as it is, do pass, without the removal of the emergency clause. Voices the importance of the bill. States that current funding is a disgrace.

050

Rep. Mabrey

States that he respects Rep. Wirth’s opinions on the matter. Concurs with Rep. Nelson’s opinions

065

Rep. Mabrey

Withdraws the motion.

069

Chair Krummel

Recognizes Rep. Mabrey’s decision. Supports the decision. Voices concern there will be misunderstanding on the floor with the clause. Closes work session on HB 2743. States the bill will return.

085

Rep. Mabrey

Comments on his experience with a veteran.

096

Chair Krummel

Opens informational meeting.

INFORMATIONAL MEETING

102

Tom Ewing

Central Hearing Officer Panel (CHOP). Explains the purpose of the panel in terms of operations. Refers committee to information provided in (EXHIBIT E). Discusses professionalism of hearing officers. Speaks to the problems overcome. Discusses the geographical disparity of the offices as a continuing issue. Comments on efficiency.   

257

Rep. Nelson

Requests the reason for CHOP.

261

Ewing

Explains the panel hears all issues between individuals and state agencies.

272

Rep. Nelson

Clarifies.

274

Chair Krummel

Explains the past use of CHOP.

278

Rep. Nelson

Requests how CHOP officers are selected and if CHOP is independent of all agencies.

283

Ewing

Affirms the panel is independent of all agencies. Responds he is appointed, and then hires all officers.

289

Rep. Avakian

Adds state action is included in the appeals heard by the panel.

297

Rep. Prozanski

Explains the purpose of the origination of the panel. Notes a bill that will remove the sunset clause on the agency.

336

Rep. Nelson

Poses a situation and requests how a representative would be involved.

342

Rep. Prozanski

Explains the involvement of CHOP.

351

Rep. Avakian

Adds on funds for CHOP

360

Ewing

Remarks on the breakdown of CHOP funding.

370

Chair Krummel

Notices the Board of Athletic Trainers is on the list. Explains how fees help to fund CHOP.

380

Ewing

Continues.

TAPE 31, A

002

Ewing

Explains the workload requirements and full time equivalent (FTE) employees with regard to savings and budget cuts. Speaks to water resources and business and labor regarding FTE’s.

071

Chair Krummel

Asks if licensees need to hire attorneys.

075

Ewing

Negates and explains reasons. Notes that is always good to have counsel.

089

Chair Krummel

Poses question regarding commissions.

091

Ewing

Responds concerning decisions made.

096

Chair Krummel

Clarifies boards brought in are subject to the panel.

100

Ewing

Affirms.

105

Chair Krummel

Asks if hearing officers unfamiliar with issues can cause a disadvantage.

115

Ewing

Replies regarding real estate agency plans. Discusses other licensing agencies. 

137

Chair Krummel

Discusses a past issue of CHOP. Asks what happens to support people.

150

Ewing

Explains concerning involvement.

162

Chair Krummel

Understands the hearings officers decisions are not final.

170

Ewing

Estimates that 98% of decisions are and explains the other cases.

183

Rep. Nelson

Requests how CHOP pays for investigation and witnesses.

187

Ewing

Explains the board or the citizens pays for those situations

190

Rep. Nelson

Asks how they rule if the testimony is necessary.

197

Ewing

Explains CHOP does not have an advocacy role and that it tries to be impartial.

216

Chair Krummel

Closes informational meeting. Adjourns the meeting at 10:42 AM.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – HB 2743, written testimony, Rep. Tim Knopp, 1 p

B – HB 2743, written testimony, Rep. John Mabrey, 2 pp

C – HB 2743, written testimony, Walter Crews, 3 pp

D – HB 2743, written testimony, Greg Warnock, 2 pp

E – Informational, CHOP, Tom Ewing, 4 pp