HOUSE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
January 20, 2003 Hearing Room D
8:30 A.M. Tapes 2 – 4
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Jeff Kruse, Chair
Rep. Billy Dalto, Vice-Chair
Rep. Carolyn Tomei, Vice-Chair
Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson
Rep. Gordon Anderson
Rep. Jeff Barker
Rep. Ben Westlund
STAFF PRESENT: Sandy
Thiele-Cirka, Administrator
Mara McGraw, Assistant
ISSUES HEARD: INFORMATIONAL
MEETING
Overview of the Department of Human
Services (DHS)
·
Review of HB 5100 Budget Reductions
These minutes are in compliance
with Senate and House Rules. Only
text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the
tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 2, A |
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006 |
Chair Kruse |
Calls meeting to order at 8:35 A.M. and opens
informational meeting. |
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INFORMATIONAL
MEETING |
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007 |
Chair Kruse |
Introduces overview of Department of Health and
Human Services (DHS) and HB 5100 reductions.
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Jean Thorne |
Acting Director of the DHS. Offers DHS overview and overview of HB
5100 reductions, special session cuts, November rebalance and December
revenue forecast (EXHIBIT A). Provides a context for DHS and the budget
relating to the General Fund. Begins presentation
by reviewing:
Introduces assistant directors to speak on specific departmental
reductions. |
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TAPE 3, A |
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047 |
Chair Kruse |
Questions implementation of HB 510 reductions. |
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054 |
Thorne |
Continues presentation. Comments on Measure 28 and
impact on DHS. |
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073 |
Chair Kruse |
Questions if current statues require specific
date. |
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076 |
Thorne |
Responds and explains the funds in mandated program
reductions relating the timing of the reductions. |
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099 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
States desire to put a face to issue. Refers to Hood
View facility closure and pending lawsuit. Questions approach toward displaced
clients. |
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112 |
Thorne |
Explains DHS transition planning and downsizing related
to federal match. References the biennium budgeting. Emphasizes sustainability
regarding cuts to health programs. |
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169 |
Rep. Westlund |
Provides brief recap of legislative reductions. |
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173 |
Thorne |
Concurs. |
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203 |
Rep. Dalto |
Requests data regarding reorganization savings. |
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206 |
Thorne |
Defines figures and savings targets regarding
reinvestment and reorganization. Offers example of current employment
vacancies. |
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222 |
Chair Kruse |
Requests clarification on dollar amounts. |
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224 |
Thorne |
Responds with uncertainty as to exact figures. |
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226 |
Chair Kruse |
Explains figures were target for reorganization
during the 2001 session. |
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233 |
Rep. Dalto |
Requests clarification on “reinvesting.” |
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235 |
Thorne |
Details costs of reorganization and service
integration relating to staff and management training, networking computer
systems, and co-location of services. Provides details of the reorganization
process. |
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286 |
Rep. Dalto |
Inquires on reorganization goals relating to
reduction of cost or improvement of service delivery. |
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291 |
Thorne |
Responds and identifies the focus to improve services
and reduce costs. |
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312 |
Chair Kruse |
Directs members to HB 5100 reduction handout (EXHIBIT C). |
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324 |
Ramona Foley |
Assistant Director for Children, Adults and Families,
and Interim Assistant Director for Community Human Services, DHS. Introduces
self. |
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329 |
Jim Nealy |
Deputy Director for Human Services, introduces self. |
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332 |
Foley |
Speaks to merger between Adult Services with
Services to Children and Families and commitment to consistency within and
between programs. |
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350 |
Nealy |
Explains matrix (EXHIBIT
B) regarding elimination of emergency assistance. Notes the program could
start up again with next biennium. |
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374 |
Chair Kruse |
Questions the dollar figure relating to continuation
of services in 2003-2005 and dollar figures for current reductions. |
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381 |
Nealy |
Responds the programs are being substantially
reduced in the reorganization. Explains reductions of employment related day
care regarding Jobs program, and Temporary Assistance to Needy Families
(TANF) grants (EXHIBIT B). Continues TANF discussion. |
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452 |
Chair Kruse |
Requests clarification on TANF’s current budget and
how the federal reductions impact Oregon’s funding match. |
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454 |
Nealy |
Explains relationship of General Fund to TANF block
grant. Notes the reductions do not eliminate federal funds. |
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465 |
Foley |
Details TANF cuts. Contrasts figures for services to
children removed from the home versus services to intact families. Emphasizes
and details largest system reductions (EXHIBIT
B). Explains loss of General Funds;
including staff. |
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TAPE 2, B |
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056 |
Foley |
Explains reduction in foster care payments and
adoption rates (EXHIBITB). States
that Oregon as one of the top in the nation in foster care and adoption
assistance. |
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102 |
Chair Kruse |
Requests information on federal funding stream reductions. |
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102 |
Foley |
Explains General Fund reductions. Details several
reductions. |
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129 |
Chair Kruse |
Requests clarification regarding cuts to residential
treatment programs. |
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130 |
Foley |
Details reductions from 24 hour residential
programs. |
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143 |
James Toews |
Acting Assistant Director for Seniors and People
with Disabilities, DHS. Explains
decision making around reductions and discussions with federal reductions (EXHIBIT D). Identifies and details
partnerships. Explains relationship to federal Medicaid waiver program reapplication
process. Reports efforts to preserve specific
services. |
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235 |
Rep. Tomei |
Requests savings figures. |
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236 |
Toews |
Speaks to rate reductions and roll back rates to
1999-01 levels. Details Oregon Project Independence (OPI) reductions. |
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288 |
Rep. Dalto |
Inquires on OPI reductions during the last 2 years. |
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290 |
Toews |
Explains OPI cuts. |
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308 |
Rep. Barker |
Requests figure regarding number of people impacted
by reductions. |
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312 |
Toews |
Discusses impact on client population. Details cuts
as they apply to Social Security/Disability Benefits (SSI/SSDI) (EXHIBIT B). Explains ranking of
impairment (1-17) according to activities of daily living (ADL’s). Continues presentation. |
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392 |
Chair Kruse |
Questions cuts at level 10. |
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393 |
Toews |
Defers answer to later testimony. |
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404 |
Sandy Thiele-Cirka |
Administrator.
Submits ADL description (EXHIBIT
C). |
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412 |
Toews |
Notes DHS attempt to preserve services to 24 hour
care in developmental disabilities (EXHIBIT
B). Reports reductions as they
impact clients living with their families. |
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457 |
Chair Kruse |
Inquires on Staley agreement. |
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466 |
Toews |
Explains Staley agreement and relationship to
current cuts and reports DHS is aware of risks. |
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417 |
Chair Kruse |
Questions cost of settlements compared to cost services. |
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482 |
Toews |
Explains moving target cut dates. Continues. |
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TAPE 3, B |
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048 |
Rep. Dalto |
Questions total people impacted by HB 5100 cuts. |
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057 |
Toews |
Explains levels 10-14 (EXHIBIT C). Offers figure on people and dollars involved and reduction delays. |
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077 |
Chair Kruse |
Questions logistical information regarding client
requests and rights for a hearing if denied services. |
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086 |
Toews |
Explains loss of OHP and other services. Details federal
standards on hearing rights related to level cuts. Reports assessment of eligibility is hearable, service/program
cuts are not hearable and the hearings process. |
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135 |
Chair Kruse |
Questions federal relationship and determination of
hearing rights related to cuts. |
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149 |
Toews |
Explains mandatory versus optional services with
regard to elimination of an entire program. Restates assessments as
contestable but eligibility figures and guidelines are not contestable.
Explains level for eligibility is now at level 10 (EXHIBIT E). |
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169 |
Chair Kruse |
Questions impact on Medicaid waiver relating to elimination
of Medically Needy program. |
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174 |
Toews |
Defers to Thorne. |
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175 |
Thorne |
Explains Medically Needy program as optional. |
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178 |
Chair Kruse |
Requests additional information on Medicaid waivers. |
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181 |
Thorne |
Explains states can choose to cover. Defines
populations covered. Details specific
populations and income levels covered in Oregon. Explains program can be eliminated at will if not tied to waivers. |
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189 |
Chair Kruse |
Requests matrix on Medicaid programs related to
specific waivers. |
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224 |
Lynn Read |
Acting Administrator, Oregon Medical Assistance Program
(OMAP), DHS. Introduces self. |
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225 250 300 |
Barry Kast |
Assistant Director for Health Services, DHS. Introduces self. Explains:
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360 |
Chair Kruse |
Requests clarification regarding certification of
state workers. |
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388 |
Kast |
Explains relationship between state and local cuts. |
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402 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Inquires about tracking and data from school based
cuts. |
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412 |
Kast |
States inability to answer but will provide information
to committee. |
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416 |
Chair Kruse |
Comments on administrative functions supported by General
Fund. |
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TAPE 4, A |
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008 |
Kast |
States school based health centers are part of
larger safety net. |
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013 |
Chair Kruse |
Comments on alternative funding sources. |
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022 |
Kast |
Discusses procedural constraints that impact budget
cuts due to OHP fund merger. Comments on mental health infrastructure. Explains
restrictions in cuts and potential litigation. |
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101 |
Chair Kruse |
Questions litigation outside of Multnomah County. |
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104 |
Kast |
Explains current litigation in connection to mental
health and addictions cuts. Details
choice to preserve community crisis system over hospital beds. Relates need to choose cuts that can be
implemented. |
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136 |
Chair Kruse |
Inquires if DHS has proposed alternative reductions. |
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160 |
Thorne |
Explains HB 5100 reductions are related to serious
impacts in services. Describes
proposed cuts dependent on passage of Measure 28. |
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186 |
Chair Kruse |
Requests discussion on alternatives funding. Adjourns
the meeting at 10:34 A.M. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– Informational, DHS Overview, Jean Thorne, 27 pp.
B
– Informational, DHS Budget Reductions Actions, Jean Thorne, 12 pp.
C
– Informational, HB 5100, staff, 2 pp.
D
– Informational, Medically Needy Fact Sheet, James Toews, 1 p.
E
– Informational, Characterization of Survival Levels, James Toews, 3 pp.