HOUSE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
March 7, 2003 Hearing Room D
9:00 A.M. Tapes 45 – 48
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Jeff Kruse, Chair
Rep. Billy Dalto, Vice-Chair
Rep. Carolyn Tomei, Vice-Chair
Rep. Gordon Anderson
Rep. Jeff Barker
Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson
Rep. Ben Westlund
STAFF PRESENT: Sandy
Thiele-Cirka, Committee Administrator
Mara McGraw, Committee Assistant
ISSUES HEARD: HB
2631 – Public Hearing
Informational Meeting
·
Prescription Patient Assistance Programs—
Community
Perspective
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Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
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please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 45, A |
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004 |
Chair Kruse |
Calls meeting to order at 9:10 A.M. and opens public
hearing on HB 2631. |
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HB 2631
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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006 |
Rep. Bob Jenson |
Rep. Bob Jenson, House District 58. Submits written
testimony in support of HB 2631 (EXHIBIT
A). Offers background on bill. Presents impact of bill on patient access
to health records. Relates personal story regarding inability to obtain
personal lab results. |
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125 |
Rep. Bob Jenson |
Continues presentation on HB 2631. Refers to the
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), Clinical Lab
Improvement Amendment (CLIA) and Oregon statute. Summarizes purpose and
intent of -1 amendment (EXHIBIT B). |
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208 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Inquires on laboratory input and logistics of
delivering lab results to patients. |
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215 |
Rep. Jenson |
Explains volume of requests to rural and urban labs.
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230 |
Rep. Anderson |
Comments on HIPAA regulations. |
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260 |
Catherine Otto |
Chair, Government Affairs Committee, Oregon
Association of Clinical Laboratory Science. Offers written testimony in
support of bill (EXHIBIT C).
Explains process for patient access to lab results. Addresses increase in lab
result requests. |
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302 |
Elizabeth Smith |
Laboratory technologist, Oregon Association of
Laboratory Science. Requests -1 amendment reflect traditional explanation of
laboratory medicine relating to maintenance of health and well being,
monitoring of treatment or evidence of disease. |
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333 |
Chair Kruse |
Comments on language. Inquires on HIPAA. |
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345 |
Otto |
Reports no issue with HIPPA. |
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348 |
Mike Spiels |
Director, State Public Health Laboratory (SPHL),
Department of Human Services (DHS). Reports SPHL is neutral on HB 2631. Speaks
to laboratory “indirect care relationship” defined by HIPAA. Reads from HIPPA
privacy rule guidelines. |
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394 |
Chair Kruse |
Speaks to
the intent of HIPAA. |
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400 |
Spiels |
Comments on eliminating barriers to patient access. |
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404 |
Rep. Anderson |
Points out HIPAA issues related to mailing lab
results. |
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TAPE 46, A |
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002 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Questions the financial impact to public lab and
clinical lab access. |
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012 |
Spiels |
Reports on the inability to predict number of
results that will be requested. Notes clinical labs may get more requests
than public labs. |
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032 |
Chair Kruse |
Calls recess. Reconvenes (NOTE: Tape does not
reflect reconvening of meeting). |
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033 |
Tim Martinez |
Representing Oregon Medical Association (OMA). Reports
on potential consequences to patients if lab results are released directly to
patient. Submits and explains proposed amendment language (EXHIBIT D). |
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088 |
Chair Kruse |
Inquires on definition of “materially detrimental.” |
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089 |
Martinez |
Reports this term is in the physician’s professional
medical opinion. |
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097 |
Chair Kruse |
Comments language implies physician’s need to assess
patient’s state of mind. |
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104 |
Rep. Barker |
Inquires on cost to implement. |
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111 |
Martinez |
Reports release of medical records as part of a
routine. |
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117 |
Chair Kruse |
Requests opinion from OMA’s Health Insurance
Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) expert. |
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126 |
Martinez |
Reports amendment drafted by outside counsel. |
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135 |
Rep. Jenson |
Responds to OMA comments. Speaks to current
applicability of statue. Comments on timeline to access primary care
physician. Continues explanation of personal experience and notes concern with
the changes in health care. |
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230 |
Rep. Dalto |
Inquires on ability of patients to interpret and
understand lab results. |
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246 |
Rep. Jenson |
Reports patients can understand their lab results. |
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252 |
Chair Kruse |
Reports need for clarification on amendments and
HIPAA before moving bill. |
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260 |
Rep. Monnes Anderson |
Requests amendments clarify handling of false
positives and other critical issues with lab results. |
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280 |
Rep. Jenson |
Offers closing remarks. |
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282 |
Chair Kruse |
Closes public hearing on HB 2631and opens informational
meeting. |
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INFORMATIONAL
MEETING |
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297 |
Delina Porter |
Consumer. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E). Comments on testimony of
Pfizer representative from 03/03/03 meeting. Relates personal experiences
with patient drug assistance programs.
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TAPE 45, B |
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011 |
Porter |
Continues presentation on community perspective.
Describes challenges such as required tax returns, varying rules and
regulation from doctor offices and pharmaceutical companies, access to FAX
machines, transportation issues and other barriers for mental health consumer
access to assistance programs. Comments on financial coverage of
prescriptions by assistance programs. |
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100 |
Ellen Pinney |
Executive Director, Oregon Health Action Campaign.
Relates barriers and issues with current prescription assistance programs.
Presents suggestions to increase patient accessibility. Comments on SB 9 and
the lack of implementation of the toll free access number. Relates results of
lack of access to prescriptions. Discusses Medically Needy Program (EXHIBIT F-green page). References the
Families U.S.A. report (EXHIBIT F). |
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223 |
Tim Miller |
Helpline Coordinator, Oregon Health Access Project.
Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G).
Discusses indigent programs and notes they do not fill the current demand. States
assistance programs are not a comprehensive solution. Explains hotline
center. |
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257 |
Vice-Chair Tomei |
Inquires on difference between documented calls and
undocumented calls. |
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268 |
Miller |
Explains helpline process for answering and
documented calls. Relates process for accessing assistance programs. Reports
some clinics charge clients for assistance through assistance program
application process. Continues
testimony. |
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337 |
Rep. Barker |
Inquires on poverty level formula. |
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338 |
Pinney |
Unable to answer question. |
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351 |
Rep. Anderson |
Inquires on funds raised via community partners. |
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363 |
Pinney |
Reports coalition members donate to advocacy
efforts. Notes that foundations are interested in assisting. |
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381 |
Vice-Chair Tomei |
Comments on documented calls to helpline. |
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385 |
Miller |
Speaks to marketing, capacity and training of
volunteers to expand helpline. |
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392 |
Pinney |
Speaks to minimal advertising due to current
inability to assist volume of callers.
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411 |
Rep. Dalto |
Comments on volume of calls to Governors Ombudsman
Office. |
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424 |
Pinney |
Notes process and assistance provided by Ombudsman
Office. Speaks to need for current information. |
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TAPE 46, B |
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011 |
Rob Wheaton |
Consumer. Speaks to process involved in completing
paperwork to access patient assistance programs. Notes extended timeline in
assistance programs response to application request. |
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035 |
Don Golden |
Consumer. Relates personal experience in accessing
patient assistance programs. Reports option to travel out of the country to
obtain medications. Provides personal medical history, financial means and
required prescriptions. |
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076 |
Rep. Dalto |
Inquires on drugs related to transplant rejection. |
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078 |
Wheaton |
Explains required medication immediately after
transplant and on-going prescription needs. Discusses coverage of immunosuppressant
and Medicare policies. |
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098 |
Nannette Ringering |
Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT H). Relates challenges in accessing patient assistance
programs in regard to vulnerable populations. Speaks to frequent changes in
pharmaceutical company management and subsequent patient assistance programs. |
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164 |
Marsha Katz |
Consumer. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT I). Relates personal
experience with patient assistance programs. Reports cost of prescriptions
and lack of Medicare coverage. Discusses income limitations. Offers
suggestions to expand coverage of patient assistance programs. |
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236 |
William Glennen |
Consumer. Relates personal experience with mental
health issues and patient assistance programs. Speaks to inability to afford
both daily expenses and prescriptions. Relates challenge and barriers in
accessing patient assistance programs for patients using psychotropic drugs. |
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332 |
Robert Childs |
Community Treatment Clinician, Cascadia Behavioral
Health Care. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT
J). Relates experiences of client population in living with mental health
issues and prescription drugs programs. |
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394 |
Vice-Chair Tomei |
Inquires on reference to available beds. |
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395 |
Childs |
Concurs beds are psychiatric. Speaks to issues with
patient access to prescription assistance programs. Describes results of
current gap in services. |
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TAPE 47, A |
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020 |
Tim Nesbitt |
President, Oregon AFL-CIO. Submits written testimony
(EXHIBIT K). Encourages committee
to think broadly in considering solutions to the issue of patient access to
assistance programs. Speaks to costs of prescription drugs (EXHIBIT K-pages 6-7). Relates need
for more affordable prescription drugs. Suggests bulk purchasing by state. |
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083 |
Rose Spears |
Chairperson, Oregon Action-Portland and Consumer. Submits
written testimony (EXHIBIT L). Testifies
on income limitations, prescription costs and personal experiences with
accessing patient assistance programs. |
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132 |
Vern Smith |
Consumer. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT M). Provides personal
experience with accessing patient assistance programs. Reports Social
Security Administration (SSA) offered comment on divorce or separation as a
financial solution to access services. |
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186 |
Catherine Bax |
Physician Assistant, Virginia Garcia Clinic.
Addresses clinic and indigent patient’s issues regarding the patient
assistance programs. Speaks to
frequent changes in assistance programs rules and regulations. Inquires on
standardizing programs and/or forms.
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266 |
Eric Landen |
Co-Chair, Client Advisory Board Multnomah County HIV
Services Center; Associate Member, HIV Planning Council; Consumer. Relates
personal experience living with terminal illness and accessing patient
assistance programs. Discusses Ryan White funds, dual diagnosis, and the need
for additional revenue. |
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375 |
Rep. Westlund |
Notes fiscal impact of not providing adequate health
care. |
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389 |
Bill Hancock |
Multnomah County Community Health Council and
Consumer. Relates income limitations, prescriptions costs and personal
experiences with patient assistance programs. |
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TAPE 48, A |
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005 |
Bill Hancock |
Continues testimony on patient assistance programs.
Addresses cost to safety-net clinic. Reports having to go without life saving
prescriptions due to lack of coverage through patient assistance programs. |
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057 |
Rep. Westlund |
Inquires on cost of HIV drugs. |
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058 |
Hancock |
Reports $1500 per month. |
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059 |
Landen |
Reports $2000-2200 per month. |
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060 |
Rep. Westlund |
Clarifies that doe not include witness’ heart
medications. |
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061 |
Hancock |
Concurs. |
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065 |
Vice-Chair Tomei |
Requests pharmaceutical lobbyists view tape of
today’s meeting. Closes informational meeting and adjourns the meeting at
11:28 A.M. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 2631, written testimony, Rep. Bob Jenson, 2 pp.
B
– HB 2631, -1 amendment, staff, 1 p.
C
– HB 2631, written testimony, Catherine Otto, 1 p.
D
– HB 2631, proposed amendment language, Tim Martinez, 1 p.
E
– Informational, written testimony, Delina Porter, 1 p.
F
– Informational, packet, Ellen Pinney, 34 pp.
G
– Informational, written testimony, Tim Miller, 7 pp.
H
– Informational, written testimony, Nannette Ringering, 2 pp.
I
– Informational, written testimony, Marsha Katz, 5 pp.
J
– Informational, written testimony, Robert Childs, 1 p.
K
– Informational, packet, Tim Nesbitt, 7 pp.
L
– Informational, written testimony, Rose Spears, 1 p.
M
– Informational, written testimony, Vern Smith, 2 pp.