HOUSE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
April 28, 2003 Hearing Room D
8:30 A.M. Tapes 97
98
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Jeff Kruse, Chair
Rep. Billy Dalto, Vice-Chair
Rep. Carolyn Tomei, Vice-Chair
Rep. Gordon Anderson
Rep. Jeff Barker
Rep. Ben Westlund
MEMBER EXCUSED: Rep. Laurie Monnes Anderson
STAFF PRESENT: Sandy
Thiele-Cirka, Committee Administrator
Mara McGraw, Committee Assistant
MEASURES HEARD: HB
2120 Work Session
HB 2165 Work Session
HB 2609 Work Session
HB 2828 Work Session
HB 3574 Work Session
SB 878 Public Hearing and Work
Session
SB 74A Public Hearing
SB 192 Public Hearing and Work
Session
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 97, A |
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004 |
Chair Kruse |
Calls meeting to order at 8:45 A.M. and opens work
session on HB 2120. |
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HB 2120
WORK SESSION |
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008 |
Sandy Thiele-Cirka |
Administrator. Summarizes bill and -6 amendments
dated 4/23/03 (EXHIBIT A). |
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031 |
Gordon Fultz |
Association of Oregon Counties. Speaks to and
supports resolutions made by -6 amendments. |
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046 |
Donna Middleton |
Director, Oregon Commission on Children and Families.
Notes joint participation with public health and mental health. Supports -6
amendments. |
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056 |
Janet Carlson |
Marion County Commissioner. Notes statue codifies current
joint approval processes. Supports -6 amendments. |
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069 |
Rep. Tomei
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MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2120-6 amendments dated
4/23/03. |
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070 |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Monnes Anderson |
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071 |
Chair Kruse |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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072 |
Rep. Tomei
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MOTION: Moves HB 2120 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR. |
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075 |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote AYE. EXCUSED: 1 - Monnes Anderson |
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085 |
Chair Kruse |
The motion CARRIES. |
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090 |
Chair Kruse |
Closes work session on HB 2120 and opens work session
on HB 2165. |
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HB 2165
WORK SESSION |
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092 |
Thiele-Cirka |
Summarizes bill and -3 amendments dated 4/25/03 (EXHIBIT B). |
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112 |
Rep. Tomei
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MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2165-3 amendments dated
4/25/03. |
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113 |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Monnes Anderson |
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114 |
Chair Kruse |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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115 |
Rep. Tomei
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MOTION: Moves HB 2165 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR. |
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123 |
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VOTE:
6-0-1 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote AYE. EXCUSED: 1 - Monnes Anderson |
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130 |
Chair Kruse |
The motion CARRIES. |
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131 |
Chair Kruse |
Closes work session on HB 2165 and announces HB 2251
will not be heard. Opens work session on HB 2609. |
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HB 2609
WORK SESSION |
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140 |
Thiele-Cirka |
Summarizes bill and -1 amendments, dated 4/23/03 (EXHIBIT C) and -2 amendments, dated 4/25/03 (EXHIBIT D). |
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165 |
Jim Gardner |
Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers of
America (PhRMA). Discusses changes created by -1 amendments. Addresses issue
of evidentiary determination of drug quality. |
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208 |
Bruce Goldberg |
Administrator, Office of Health Policy. Notes bill
denies state authority to approve drugs based on price. Comments on fiscal
responsibility of state. Suggests language to further amend -1
amendments. |
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231 |
Marsha Keith |
MERCK Company. Discuses inserting word nausea via
-2 amendments. |
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245 |
Gardner |
Clarifies language in lines 15 through 17 of -1
amendments (EXHIBIT C). |
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266 |
Chair Kruse |
Inquires on opposition to bill. |
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273 |
Goldberg |
Comments on language regarding absence of evidence
as it applies to drugs outside of mental health, HIV and cancer. |
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284 |
Rep. Tomei |
Inquires on possible changes to address concerns. |
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287 |
Goldberg |
Suggests changes to bill and amendments. |
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292 |
Rep. Anderson |
Inquires on managed care as it provides greater
discretion. |
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298 |
Goldberg |
Comments on fully capitated health plans and future
of health care. |
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312 |
Chair Kruse |
Notes suggests changes forgoes research regarding evidentiary
selection. |
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323 |
Goldberg |
Comments on evidence available to state for review. |
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333 |
Chair Kruse |
Comments on previous legislation regarding prescription
drugs. |
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353 |
Goldberg |
Notes differences between prior authorization and
preferred drug lists. Notes use of management tools in absence of evidence. |
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386 |
Chair Kruse |
Discusses evidence as it relates to physician
choice. |
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403 |
Goldberg |
Concurs with use of cost as determents when evidence
of superior quality is absent. |
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417 |
Gardner |
Addresses issue of legislative intent regarding evidentiary
standard. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT
E). |
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457 |
Rep. Anderson |
Inquires on availability of evidence. |
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464 |
Gardner |
Discusses available evidence regarding clinical
effectiveness. |
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493 |
Rep. Anderson |
Inquires on balance between effectiveness and cost. |
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TAPE 98, A |
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024 |
Gardner |
Discusses clinical effectiveness by class. |
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038 |
Rep. Tomei |
Inquires on addition of nausea. |
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042 |
Keith |
Notes nausea is as common a side effect as others
currently listed. |
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052 |
Rep. Westlund |
Notes broad scope of side effects in regard to
expanding list. |
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074 |
Chair Kruse |
Orders committee to stand at ease. Reconvenes meeting. |
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090 |
Rep.
Westlund |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2609-1 amendments dated
4/23/03. |
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094 |
Rep. Dalto |
Notes position of Pharmacists Association. |
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099 |
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VOTE:
5-1-1 AYE: 5 - Anderson, Barker, Dalto, Westlund, Kruse NAY: 1 - Tomei EXCUSED: 1 - Monnes Anderson |
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100 |
Chair Kruse |
The motion CARRIES. |
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102 |
Rep.
Westlund |
MOTION: Moves HB 2609 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means
by prior reference. |
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105 |
Rep. Tomei |
Notes current fiscal impact of bill to state. |
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123 |
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VOTE:
5-1-1 AYE: 5 - Anderson, Barker, Dalto, Westlund, Kruse NAY: 1 - Tomei EXCUSED: 1 - Monnes Anderson |
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128 |
Chair Kruse |
The motion CARRIES. |
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129 |
Chair Kruse |
Closes work session on HB 2609 and opens work
session on HB 2828. |
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HB 2828
WORK SESSION |
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138 |
Martin Taylor |
Oregon Nurses Association. Explains bill. Notes other
amendments. Submits and summarizes -4
amendments, dated 4/25/03 (EXHIBIT F).
Supports bill. |
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192 |
J. L. Wilson |
Co-Chair, Management Labor Advisory Committee (MLAC).
Notes organizations history, structure and decision making process. Comments
on previous workers compensation reforms. Testifies in opposition to bill. |
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259 |
Rep. Tomei |
Requests information on specific issues of
objection. |
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263 |
Wilson |
Addresses maintaining integrity of 1990 agreements. |
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276 |
Rep. Dalto |
Clarifies objection relates to MLAC process not
Nurse Practitioners. |
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279 |
Wilson |
Notes bill overturns 1990 reforms. Comments on
setting precedent which opens door to other professions. |
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312 |
Rep. Tomei |
Inquires on members of MLAC in opposition. |
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314 |
Wilson |
Explains decision. |
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329 |
Chair Kruse |
States concerns. |
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337 |
Rep. Tomei
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MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2828-4 amendments dated
4/25/03. |
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340 |
Rep. Tomei |
Comments on need for changes in health care. |
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349 |
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VOTE:
6-0-2 EXCUSED: 1 - Monnes Anderson, Westlund |
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350 |
Chair Kruse |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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363 |
Rep. Tomei
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MOTION: Moves HB 2828 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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357 |
Rep. Dalto |
Comments on MLAC objections. |
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365 |
Chair Kruse |
Comments on workers compensation system. |
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375 |
Rep. Anderson |
Explains concerns regarding 30 day time limit. |
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396 |
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VOTE:
4-1-2 AYE: 4 - Barker, Dalto, Tomei, Kruse NAY: 1 - Anderson EXCUSED: 2 - Monnes Anderson, Westlund |
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402 |
Chair Kruse |
The motion CARRIES. MONNES ANDERSON will lead discussion
on the floor. |
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413 |
Chair Kruse |
Closes work session on HB 2828 and opens work
session on HB 3574. |
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HB 3574
WORK SESSION |
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420 |
Thiele-Cirka |
Summarizes bill and -2 amendments, dated 4/23/03 (EXHIBIT G). Notes lack of fiscal
prevents rescind of referral. |
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467 |
Chair Kruse |
Closes work session on HB 3574 and opens public
hearing on SB 878. |
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TAPE 97, B |
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SB 878
PUBLIC HEARING |
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025 |
Modesto Jimenez |
Member, Klamath Tribe, representing Klamath Indian
Health. Submits written testimony in support of bill.(EXHIBIT H). Notes impact of budget cuts. |
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047 |
Jim Edge |
Acting Assistant Administrator, Office of Medical
Assistance Programs (OMAP), Department of Human Services (DHS). Submits
written testimony in supports of bill (EXHIBIT
I). Details DHS involvement in Indian health issues. Notes no fiscal
impact to state as funding is federal. |
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057 |
Rep. Anderson |
Inquires on percent of Native Americans eligible for
Oregon Health Plan (OHP). |
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062 |
Edge |
Presents data. |
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075 |
Chair Kruse |
Speaks to tribal benefits from Casinos. |
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100 |
Verne Buerner |
Administrative Officer, Northwest Portland Indian Health
Board. Submits written testimony in support of bill (EXHIBIT J). Presents history of bill and overview of Indian
health issues. |
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131 |
Jackie Murcer |
Executive Director, Native American Rehabilitation
Association (NARA). Testifies in support of bill. Presents overview of agency
and Indian health disparity. |
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148 |
Rep. Anderson |
Inquires on population served. |
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151 |
Murcer |
Explains tribal membership and communities served. |
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155 |
Chair Kruse |
Closes public hearing on SB 878 and opens work
session on SB 878. |
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SB 878
WORK SESSION |
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157 |
Rep. Tomei
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MOTION: Moves SB 878 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation and be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR. |
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161 |
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VOTE:
5-0-2 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote AYE. EXCUSED: 2 - Dalto, Monnes Anderson |
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167 |
Chair Kruse |
The motion CARRIES. |
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168 |
Chair Kruse |
Closes work session on SB 878 and opens public
hearing on SB 74A. |
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SB 74A
PUBLIC HEARING |
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172 |
Thiele-Cirka |
Summaries bill. |
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186 |
Senate President Peter Courtney |
Senate President, Senate District 11. Submits
written testimony in support of bill.(EXHIBIT
K). Presents overview of disease and history of bill. |
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235 |
Tim Kelsh |
Constituent. Submits written testimony in support of
bill (EXHIBIT L). Relates personal
experience with insurance coverage for daughters disease. |
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303 |
Katie Kelsh |
Phenylketonuia (PKU) patient. Submits written
testimony in support of bill (EXHIBIT
M). Relates personal experience with disease. |
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340 |
Rep. Tomei |
Inquires on medical diet. |
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343 |
Katie Kelsh |
Reports dietary restrictions and formula used. |
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387 |
Tim Kelsh |
Notes consequences of disease. |
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416 |
Michael Skeels, Ph. D. |
Administrator, Health Services, Office of Oregon
State Public Health Labs. Submits written testimony in support of bill (EXHIBIT N). Discusses screening and
treatment of PKU. |
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483 |
Chair Kruse |
Inquires on number of detections. |
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488 |
Skeels |
Reports figures. |
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TAPE 98, B |
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020 |
Cary Harding, MD |
Assistant Professor of Pediatrics and Molecular
Genetics, Oregon Health Sciences University (OHSU). Discusses treatment of PKU
and metabolic disorders. Addresses connection between screening and
treatment. |
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038 |
Kathleen Huntington |
Medical Nutritional Therapist, OHSU. Submits PowerPoint
presentation (EXHIBIT O).
Discusses need for medical foods in treatment of PKU, including issues
related to disparity in medical access and education. |
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068 |
Rep. Dalto |
Inquires on access to medical foods. |
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071 |
Huntington |
Details treatment and distribution of medical foods
and formula. |
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083 |
Chair Kruse |
Inquires on Medicaid coverage. |
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084 |
Huntington |
Reports coverage by Medicaid. |
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085 |
Skeels |
Notes Oregon Medical Assistance Program (OMAP)
support via Medicaid. |
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086 |
Huntington |
Continues PowerPoint presentation. |
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122 |
Rep. Tomei |
Inquires on composition of medical beverage. |
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123 |
Huntington |
Describes properties of medical beverage. Addresses
costs associated with coverage of medical needs for PKU population. Continues
PowerPoint presentation. Addresses cost to state for treatment versus special
education and other medical costs. |
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175 |
Michelle Hunter |
Testifies in support of bill. Relates personal
experience with PKU. |
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204 |
Jennifer Jones |
Behavioral Therapist. Reads written testimony in
support of bill (EXHIBIT P). |
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245 |
Joanne Rogovoy |
State Director, Program Services, March of Dimes.
Submits written testimony in support of bill (EXHIBIT Q).
Discusses screening and treatment issues. |
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268 |
Peggy Anet |
Health Insurance Association of America. Submits
written testimony (EXHIBIT R). Discusses
need for sunset clause on health mandates. |
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324 |
Rep. Tomei |
Inquires on submitted figures. |
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325 |
Anet |
Reports figures are for Oregon. |
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326 |
Chair Kruse |
Stares intent regarding sunset clause. Closes public
hearing on SB 74A and opens public hearing on SB 192. |
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SB 192
PUBLIC HEARING |
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364 |
Thiele-Cirka |
Summarizes bill. |
|
378 |
Madeline Olson |
Assistant Administrator, Health Services, Office of
Mental Health and Addiction Services. Submits testimony in support of bill (EXHIBIT S). Discusses addition of
staff to increase collaboration between agencies. |
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393 |
Chair Kruse |
Closes public hearing on SB 192 and opens work
session on SB 192. |
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SB 192
WORK SESSION |
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|
395 |
Rep. Dalto
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MOTION: Moves SB 192 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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399 |
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VOTE:
5-0-2 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote AYE. EXCUSED: 2 - Monnes Anderson, Westlund |
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403 |
Chair Kruse |
The motion CARRIES. |
|
404 |
Rep. Tomei
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MOTION: Moves SB 192 be placed on the CONSENT
CALENDAR. |
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405 |
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VOTE:
5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Monnes Anderson, Westlund |
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407 |
Chair Kruse |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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411 |
Chair Kruse |
Closes work session on SB 192 and adjourns meeting
at 10:44 A.M. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
HB 2120, -6 amendments, dated 4/23/03, staff 18 pp.
B
HB 2165, -3 amendments, dated 4/25/03, staff, 6 p.
C
HB 2609, -1 amendments, dated 4/23/03, staff, 1 p.
D
HB 2609, -2 amendments, dated 4/25/03, staff, 1 p.
E
HB 2609, written testimony, Jim Gardner, 4 pp.
F
HB 2828, -4 amendments, dated 4/25/03, staff, 19 pp.
G
HB 3574, -2 amendments, dated 4/23/03, staff, 5 pp.
H
SB 878, written testimony, Modesto Jimenez, 3 pp.
I
SB 878, written testimony, Jim Edge, 2 pp.
J
SB 878, written testimony, Verne Buerner, 25 pp.
K
SB 74, written testimony, Senate President, Peter Courtney, 3 pp.
L
SB 74, written testimony, Tim Kelsh, 6 pp.
M
SB 74m written testimony, Katie Kelsh, 5 pp.
N
SB 74, written testimony, Michael Skeels, Ph. D., 2 pp.
O
SB 74, PowerPoint presentation and written testimony, Kathleen Huntington, 6
pp.
P
SB 74, written testimony, Jennifer Jones, 1 p.
Q
SB 74, written testimony, Joanne Rogovoy, 3 pp.
R
SB 74, written testimony, Peggy Anet, 4 pp.
S
SB 192, written testimony, Madeline Olson, 1 p.