HOUSE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
January 20, 2003 Hearing Room 357
1:00 pm Tapes 7 - 8
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Max Williams, Chair
Rep. Robert Ackerman, Vice-Chair
Rep. Gordon Anderson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Jeff Barker
Rep. Bob Jenson
Rep. Jerry Krummel
Rep. Greg Macpherson
Rep. Floyd Prozanski
Rep. Lane Shetterly
STAFF PRESENT: Bill
Taylor, Counsel
Craig Prins, Counsel
Bill Joseph, Counsel
Ann Martin, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: Measure Introduction: LC 363, 1770
HB 2177 Public Hearing
HB 2050 Public Hearing
HB 2057 Public Hearing
HB 2099 Public Hearing
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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Tape 7, A |
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002 |
Chair
Williams |
Calls
the meeting to order at 1:24 pm. |
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008 |
Bill
Taylor |
Committee
Counsel. Introduces Legislative Counsel LC drafts 363 and 1770 (EXHIBITS A & B). |
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019 |
Chair Williams |
MOTION: Moves LC 363 BE INTRODUCED as
a committee bill. |
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VOTE:
9-0 |
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021 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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026 |
Chair Williams |
MOTION: Moves LC 1770 BE INTRODUCED as a committee
bill. |
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VOTE:
9-0 |
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028 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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038 |
Chair
Williams |
Opens
a public hearing on HB 2177. |
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HB 2177 PUBLIC HEARING |
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048 |
Craig
Prins |
Committee
Counsel. Introduces HB 2177 which provides that inmates may not bring civil
stalking action against officer, employee or agent of Department of
Corrections for official conduct of officer, employee or agent. Submits definitions
(EXHIBIT C). |
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061 |
Mitch
Morrow |
Assistant
Director, Oregon Department of Corrections. Submits testimony (EXHIBIT D) and testifies in support
of HB 2177. |
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091 |
Mary
Botkin |
American
Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME). Testifies in
support of HB 2177. |
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110 |
Jeff
VanValkenburgh |
Department
of Justice. Testifies on HB 2177. |
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128 |
Chair
Williams |
Asks
about the case in which the judge granted the order. |
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135 |
VanValkenburgh |
Discusses
the case and says that in most cases an inmate’s safety is not at risk in an
institution and there are other remedies available. |
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159 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Asks
what the other claims were in that case. |
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161 |
VanValkenburgh |
Identifies
the other claims of the inmate. |
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199 |
Rep.
Ackerman |
Asks
how the order was issued. |
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205 |
Van
Valkenburgh |
Says
that a temporary court stalking order was issued based on the allegations
made. |
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218 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
Asks
in which county the actual incident occurred and if an affidavit had to be
filed. |
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227 |
Van
Valkenburgh |
Answers
that it was issued in Marion County and does not believe there was an
affidavit filed. |
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232 |
Chair
Williams |
Says
that Judge Lipscomb was the judge that issued the order, but could not attend
today. Adds that Judge Lipscomb said the wording of the statute mandated that
he issue the order. |
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252 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Remarks
that this was not a situation they had in mind when they adopted the stalking
order, and questions what other options inmates have. |
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269 |
Van
Valkenburgh |
Informs
that prior to this remedy being available, inmates have had recourse in a
variety of ways and explains. |
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297 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Notes
that there are state and federal remedies available for real cases of abuse
to inmates. |
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312 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
Asks
for comments from witnesses on whether there should be affidavits required to
be filed to support the allegations, and if an emergency clause would be
appropriate for this legislation. |
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332 |
Van
Valkenburgh |
Answers
that the Department of Justice has no position on this bill, and adds that it
is inappropriate to have this extraordinary remedy apply in a prison. Says
that an emergency clause might be effective. |
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365 |
Chair
Williams |
Asks
about the language on page1, line 14, and if it will cause problems. |
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382 |
Van
Valkenburgh |
Stresses
that they do have some concerns and discusses them. |
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401 |
Chair
Williams |
Wonders
if there is a way to write the language so it is not so broad. |
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419 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Emphasizes
that the question of this committee is: do we want to make stalking orders
available as a remedy to inmates. |
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TAPE 8, A |
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002 |
Chair
Williams |
Questions
if an inmate on parole is considered an inmate for purposes of the statute. |
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008 |
Van
Valkenburgh |
Adds
that there are also criminal stalking protective statutes and that is another
piece to look at. |
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013 |
Morrow |
Believes
that once these issues get loose throughout our institutions there will be a
tumbling effect and there will be many more cases to follow. |
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021 |
Botkin |
Stresses
that the professional men and women that work for the Department of
Corrections do not tolerate inappropriate behavior among their colleagues
towards inmates and explains that she does not think this bill is necessary. |
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080 |
Ingrid
Swenson |
Oregon
Criminal Defense Lawyers Association (OCDLA). Testifies in support of HB
2177. Points out that the stalking bill is very broad. Says that there are
ways of exempting corrections officers from inappropriate efforts by inmates
to take this kind of action. |
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132 |
Rep.
Krummel |
Wonders
if this situation happens a lot and asks about corrections officers’ scope of
official duties. |
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143 |
Swenson |
Believes
that getting rid of the right to a stalking order is not the appropriate
remedy. |
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153 |
Rep.
Jenson |
Asks
if the implication here is that the inmate’s family would not have recourse
under this statute if this bill was enacted. |
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160 |
Swenson |
Answers
that if the expansion that was discussed was added and the limitation on page
2 was removed, then the family member of the inmate might not have an
appropriate remedy. |
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166 |
Rep.
Barker |
Explains
that if it’s outside the scope of their official duties then the corrections
officer would lose his job. |
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178 |
Swenson |
Says
that’s true as long as the language about “official duties” stays in the
bill. |
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193 |
Brian
DeLashmutt |
Association
of Oregon Corrections Employees. Testifies in support of HB 2177. Addresses
concerns of the committee. |
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196 |
Chair
Williams |
Asks
what happens if a corrections officer takes a romantic interest in an inmate. |
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231 |
DeLashmutt |
Defers
question to the Department of Corrections. |
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241 |
Botkin |
States
that in the past the inmates were not the ones with the complaints and that
the Department of Corrections does not tolerate inappropriate behavior like
that. |
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280 |
Van
Valkenburgh |
Discusses
bill and possible amendments. |
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282 |
Chair
Williams |
Says
that they will not go into a work session today on the bill and recommends
discussion of amendments and emergency clause. |
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316 |
Bill
Joseph |
Committee
Counsel. Wonders if there is a way to eliminate the automatic issuance of a
temporary stalking order. |
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332 |
Van
Valkenburgh |
States
that what this remedy does is expand remedies for inmates and they are
continuing to defend this issue. Thinks they need to remove this remedy for
inmates and curtail frivolous lawsuits. |
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361 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Comments
on the Oregon Youth Authority and county jails being included in this issue. |
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371 |
Chair
Williams |
Closes
public hearing on HB 2177. Opens a public hearing on HB 2057. |
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HB 2057 PUBLIC HEARING |
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380 |
George
Reimer |
Deputy
Director, Oregon State Bar. Testifies in support of HB 2057 which provides
that election not be held for position on Board of Governors of Oregon State
Bar, or for position in house of delegates of Oregon State Bar, for which
only single candidate has been nominated. |
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TAPE 7, B |
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003 |
Reimer |
Continues
testimony in support of HB 2057. |
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010 |
Rep.
Krummel |
Asks
why they picked the 6-month time period. |
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020 |
Reimer |
Answers
that the court might need that much time to have the case reviewed. |
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035 |
Chair
Williams |
Questions
that if both sides decide not to have a case reviewed, then would the Supreme
Court publish the notice of the decision of the Bar. |
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041 |
Reimer |
Says
that the decisions of the disciplinary board are published in the Oregon
State Bar monthly. |
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055 |
Chair
Williams |
Explains
that if both sides were satisfied with the result then the Supreme Court
would not have to review it. Closes the public hearing on HB 2057 and opens a
public hearing on HB 2050. |
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HB 2050 PUBLIC HEARING |
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090 |
Bill
Taylor |
Committee
Counsel. Introduces HB 2050 which expands definition of abuse for purposes of
child abuse reporting. |
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100 |
Chair
Williams |
Discusses
bill. |
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145 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Wonders
what level of knowledge is required for one to have to report the child abuse. |
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154 |
Chair
Williams |
Answers
that the language used is “endangering” and acts as a qualifier. Adds that
the standard is “any private or public official having reasonable cause to
believe” for requiring reporting of child abuse. |
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175 |
Rep.
Barker |
Comments
that in the summary it doesn’t mention manufactured, but just mentions
methamphetamines present. Asks if the statute is more specific than that. |
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180 |
Chair
Williams |
Answers
that the bill is broader than they want it to be and needs some revision. |
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187 |
Rep.
Ackerman |
Says
that there may be a statutory definition for a precursor for methamphetamine.
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191 |
Chair
Williams |
States
that nearly every session they redefine what constitutes a precursor for
methamphetamine and that is another issue to look at. |
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213 |
Rep.
Jenson |
Questions
if the manufacturer is under 18 (a youth) would there need to be a law in the
Juvenile Code regarding this issue. |
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224 |
Chair
Williams |
Says
that he doesn’t believe so. |
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234 |
Taylor |
Explains
what “endangering the welfare of a minor” means. |
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258 |
Chair
Williams |
Shares
that they will not do anything more with the bill today. Closes the public
hearing on HB 2050 and opens a public hearing on HB 2099. |
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HB 2099 PUBLIC HEARING |
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271 |
Andrew
Aubertine |
Assistant
Attorney General, Department of Justice.Testifies in support of HB 2099 which
requires attorneys for antitrust class of natural persons to notify Attorney
General of filing and proposed settlement of claims under state antitrust
laws. |
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416 |
Jim
Gardner |
Attorney
representing Microsoft. Testifies in support of HB 2099. |
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Tape 8, B |
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004 |
Chair
Williams |
Asks
if the Attorney General has the authority to appear and intervene in a
settlement case. |
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014 |
Aubertine |
Answers
yes, the Attorney General already has the authority to intervene and adds
that this bill is purely a notice bill. |
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024 |
Rep.
Ackerman |
Asks
if this is a notice requirement and not a jurisdictional requirement. |
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025 |
Aubertine |
Says
yes, that is correct. |
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026 |
Rep.
Ackerman |
Explains
that he is concerned about the consequences of a class action counsel in
failing to comply with these provisions. |
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029 |
Aubertine |
Says
that that was an issue the committee members raised, but decided not to put
that language in the bill. |
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046 |
Rep.
Ackerman |
Questions
if the Attorney General’s office does not intervene does one still have
authority to participate in the settlement process. |
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050 |
Aubertine |
Answers
yes, they feel they do have authority to participate. |
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059 |
Rep.
Macpherson |
Asks
him to explain the scope of antitrust class action laws in Oregon. |
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064 |
Aubertine |
Explains
and stresses that the Attorney General is very aware of lawsuits in Oregon,
but points out that it will be more difficult to track lawsuits in other
states. |
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091 |
Chair
Williams |
Points
out that there is a draft report on “Amending the Oregon Antitrust Act” that
will be finalized and will become available to the committee. |
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109 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Wonders
if the report addresses what the committee discussed. |
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120 |
Aubertine |
Answers
that that point is not covered in the report, but they will include it. |
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127 |
Chair
Williams |
Closes
the public hearing on HB 2099 and adjourns the meeting at 2:53 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– LC 363, submitted by staff, dated 1/17/03, 34 pgs.
B
– LC 1770, submitted by staff, dated 1/20/03, 3 pgs.
C
– HB 2177, definitions, submitted by Craig Prins, 1 pg.
D
– HB 2177, memo from Benjamin de Haan, Interim Director, Oregon Department of
Corrections, submitted by Mitch Morrow, 2 pgs.