HOUSE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
February 12, 2003 Hearing Room 357
1:00 p.m. Tapes 32 - 33
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Max Williams, Chair
Rep. Robert Ackerman, Vice-Chair
Rep. Gordon Anderson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Jeff Barker
Rep. Bob Jenson
Rep. Jerry Krummel
Rep. Greg Macpherson
Rep. Floyd Prozanski
Rep. Lane Shetterly
STAFF PRESENT: Bill
Joseph, Counsel
Ann Martin, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB
2075 Public Hearing
HB 2204 Public Hearing
HB 2269 Work Session
These minutes are in compliance
with Senate and House Rules. Only
text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the
tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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Tape 32, A |
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004 |
Chair
Williams |
Calls
the meeting to order at 1:35 p.m. |
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HB 2075 PUBLIC HEARING |
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011 |
Bill
Joseph |
Committee
Counsel. Introduces HB 2075 which revises laws relating to form of business
entities. |
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020 |
Andrew
J. Morrow, Jr. |
Oregon
State Bar. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2075 (EXHIBIT A). Discusses -2 and -3
amendments (EXHIBITS B & C). |
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068 |
Robert
C. Art |
Oregon
State Bar. Professor, Willamette University Law School. Submits testimony and
testifies in support of HB 2075 (EXHIBIT
D). |
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112 |
Chair
Williams |
Asks
if it is difficult for Oregon to keep up with the Model Business Corporation
Act since the Legislature meets every other year. |
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137 |
Art |
Responds
that he has not experienced a difficulty. |
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146 |
Morrow |
Believes
that there have been some difficulties. Says that the liability provisions
that are in the Oregon Statute have been most dramatic in the differences
among the states, but they have been doing a good job at keeping current. |
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169 |
Chair
Williams |
Wonders
if most states follow the “model act” or do they watch Delaware more closely. |
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174 |
Morrow |
Says
that the corporation acts of most states tend to follow the model act. |
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189 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Asks
for clarification of the new language on page 4, Section 3, subsection (b). |
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215 |
Art |
Answers
that his interpretation is that the person who makes the request revokes the
request. |
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218 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Wonders
when there are hundreds of shareholders requesting a special meeting, how is
it clear that those same shareholders have to revoke the request. |
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230 |
Morrow |
Says
that the process of getting a written request makes it final. |
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262 |
Chair
Williams |
Explains
that you cannot revoke what wasn’t yours in the first place. |
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271 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Says
he understands, but thinks it needs some clarification. |
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287 |
Morrow |
Replies
that he would not object to the clarification. |
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297 |
Rep.
Macpherson |
Comments
on the language used on page 4, section (b) of the bill. |
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300 |
Rep.
Krummel |
Thinks
that the language is very confusing regarding revocation and the timing. |
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331 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Talks
about how the language is passive, not active. |
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337 |
Chair
Williams |
Asks
Professor Art if the language is modeled after the Model Business Corporation
Act. |
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338 |
Art |
Answers
that he is fairly certain that this is “model act” language, but adds that it
would not be objectionable to change the language. |
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359 |
Rep.
Jenson |
Questions
the language “fair” on Page 5, Section 5, subsection (3). |
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374 |
Art |
Agrees
that “fair” is a very open-ended term and explains reason for that term. |
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380 |
Chair
Williams |
Discusses
the language of “fair”. |
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TAPE 33, A |
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003 |
Morrow |
Summarizes
the -2 amendments (Exhibit B). |
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018 |
Jack
Evans |
Oregon
Rural Electric Cooperative Association (ORECA). Submits testimony and
testifies in support of HB 2075 (EXHIBIT
E). |
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051 |
Chair
Williams |
Discusses
Section 3 of the bill and talks about making a -4 amendment. Closes the
public hearing on HB 2075 and opens a public hearing on HB 2204. |
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HB 2204 PUBLIC HEARING |
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077 |
Bill
Joseph |
Committee
Counsel. Introduces HB 2204 which expands crime of criminal trespass in first
degree to include entering and remaining unlawfully on private premises that
have been closed to protect water quality. |
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090 |
Gregg
Cline |
Department
of Forestry. Submits testimony and testifies in support of HB 2204 (EXHIBIT F). |
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142 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
Inquires
why they are changing the charge to a Class A misdemeanor. |
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152 |
Cline |
Answers
that it provides the landowner with a little more leverage for detour
unauthorized road use. |
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161 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
Asks
if current statute has not been effective in detouring individuals from
violating that law. |
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167 |
Cline |
Answers
that he doesn’t have that quantified and needs to work with the other
agencies to verify that there is an issue. |
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176 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
Describes
the difference in the penalties for Class A and Class C misdemeanors. |
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198 |
Cline |
States
that in Eastern Oregon there is a growing concern with many landowners of
private property rights and the change in the law would be helpful. |
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204 |
Vice-Chair
Ackerman |
Asks
what the definition of a motor propelled vehicle includes. |
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210 |
Cline |
Says
that would include all motorized vehicles. |
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218 |
Vice-Chair
Ackerman |
Asks
what happens if the driver doesn’t see a sign. |
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222 |
Cline |
Answers
that he doesn’t know, but thinks that would be an “out” for the defendant. |
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231 |
Vice-Chair
Ackerman |
Asks
why the date October 1 is in the bill. |
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240 |
Cline |
Says
that they are focusing on the rainy season that starts in late October
through the winter. |
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248 |
Rep.
Macpherson |
Wonders
how a private landowner can elevate the criminal sanction without any
approval process for water protection. |
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259 |
Cline |
Answers
that those roads would have to be approved through an agency. |
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282 |
Rep.
Barker |
Comments
that the penalty is really extreme. |
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290 |
Rep.
Jenson |
States
grave reservations about the proposed legislation and wonders what the reason
is for the landowners to be provided signs. |
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305 |
Cline |
Explains
that they could apply for a grant for the production of signs if necessary. |
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327 |
Rep.
Jenson |
Says
that he is concerned about the issue of the timing of the protection during
the winter months because of hunting season. Questions why this legislation
did not appear in a natural resources committee. |
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355 |
Chair
Williams |
Answers
that he thinks it’s because this bill creates a new crime. Discusses potential
referral to the Water Committee. |
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397 |
Rep.
Jenson |
States
that he would like a possible referral of the bill to the Water Committee. |
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TAPE 32, B |
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001 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
Comments
that the bill is very broad. |
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007 |
Cline |
Says
that the intent was only to post signs on those roads that would
significantly have an impact on water quality. |
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012 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
Suggests
amendments that will set criteria to designate land or roads as sensitive
areas for protecting water quality. |
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020 |
Rep.
Macpherson |
Suggests
confiscation penalty related to vehicle. |
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027 |
Chair
Williams |
Stresses
that criminal forfeiture is no longer easy to do and it would not be worth
the effort. |
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045 |
Vice-Chair
Anderson |
Wonders
about forest-land property owners as related to this bill. |
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055 |
Cline |
Says
that they would still have the trespass law in place for those people. |
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062 |
Rep.
Barker |
Says
that the bill is too broad and doesn’t see how it will protect water. |
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070 |
Cline |
Reports
that the bill was supposed to be specific for a specific problem. |
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080 |
Chair
Williams |
Closes
the public hearing on HB 2204 and opens a work session on HB 2269. |
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HB 2269 WORK SESSION |
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082 |
Chair
Williams |
Discusses
the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT G). |
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090 |
Rep.
Shetterly |
Says
that the amendments add an emergency clause. Explains the bill which
establishes rules governing operation of nontestamentary trusts. |
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124 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2269-1 amendments dated 02/06/03. |
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VOTE:
8-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Barker |
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125 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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126 |
Rep. Shetterly |
MOTION: Moves HB
2269 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED
recommendation. |
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VOTE:
8-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Barker |
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128 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. MACPHERSON will lead discussion on the
floor. |
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156 |
Chair
Williams |
Closes
the public hearing on HB 2269 and adjourns the meeting at 3:00 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 2075, written testimony, submitted by Andrew Morrow, Jr., Oregon State
Bar, dated 2/12/03, 4 pgs.
B
– HB 2075, -2 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 2/4/03, 7 pgs.
C
– HB 2075, -3 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 2/12/03, 7 pgs.
D
– HB 2075, written testimony, submitted by Robert Art, Professor, Willamette
University College of Law, dated 2/12/03, 4 pgs.
E
– HB 2075, written testimony, submitted by Jack Evans, ORECA, dated 2/12/03, 1
pg.
F
– HB 2204, written testimony, submitted by Gregg Cline, dated 2/12/03, 2 pgs.
G
– HB 2269, -1 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 2/6/03, 1 pg.