HOUSE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
April 17, 2003 Hearing Room 357
1:00 pm Tapes 146 - 147
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Max Williams, Chair
Rep. Robert Ackerman, Vice-Chair
Rep. Gordon Anderson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Jeff Barker
Rep. Bob Jenson
Rep. Jerry Krummel
Rep. Greg Macpherson
Rep. Floyd Prozanski
Rep. Lane Shetterly
STAFF PRESENT: Bill
Joseph, Counsel
Nancy Massee, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 3520 Public hearing
HB 2864 Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2694 Work Session
HB 3259 Work Session
HB 3318 Work Session
HB 3329 Work Session
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Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 146,
A |
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005 |
Chair Williams |
Opens meeting at 1:15 pm. Opens public hearing on HB 3520. |
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HB 3520
PUBLIC HEARING |
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025 |
Rep. Gordon Anderson |
House District 3. Explains HB 3520 which requires
court that offers traffic school and subsequent dismissal of citation to
offer option to persons who plead not guilty and are convicted. |
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035 |
Joyce Delphy |
Grants Pass citizen. Gives personal experience of
being ticketed for riding as a passenger without the seat belt fastened. Testifies in support of HB 3520 and explains
the importance of having seat belt training. |
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069 |
Rep. Barker |
Asks if it is modified to have the court offer this
training. |
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072 |
Carl Myers |
OJPA, OMJA. Oregon Judges Association. Testifies in opposition to HB 3520.
Explains that by requiring diversion classes in all cases, the judge’s
discretion is removed where inappropriate. Bill applies to all traffic violations. Supports having diversion programs at the
discretion of a judge. |
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111 |
Bradd Swank |
Special Counsel, Government Relations, Judicial Department. States the bill is not limited to seat
belts. Says there is no time
limit. States the bill as written
could be very disruptive |
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145 |
Chair Williams |
Asks how the seat belt law works now. |
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169 |
Myers |
Says he offers diversion under appropriate circumstances,
but there is no statutory reference to specify diversion programs. Says some
judges do not allow diversions at all. |
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192 |
Vice Chair Anderson |
Suggests some language changes to make the bill
acceptable. |
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200 |
Myers |
Responds he is receptive to changes. Repeats some judges do not allow
diversions. |
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219 |
Chair Williams |
Mentions the word “must” is questionable. |
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224 |
Myers |
Replies that is a possibility. Say judges in traffic courts can offer
diversion. Opposes the requirement it be offered in all cases. |
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253 |
Swank |
Suggests that diversion programs should happen
before the conviction is sent to Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). |
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290 |
Chair Williams |
Closes public hearing on HB 3520. Opens public hearing on HB 2864. |
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HB 2864
PUBLIC HEARING |
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296 |
Richard Thompson |
Home Owner Association Manager, Oregon-Washington
Community Association Managers (OWCAM). Testifies in support of HB 2864 which
directs certain planned unit developments, under specified circumstances, to
cause annual financial statement to be reviewed by independent certified
public accountant. Home owner associations control funds. Says 80 percent are self managed. Explains
HB 2864 addresses those associations below $75,000 cap. Explains the -1
amendment (EXHIBIT A). |
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380 |
David Schwindt |
Consultant to Home Owners Associations, CPA.
Explains why oversight is needed for the associations. Mentions that California has a requirement
for reviews and audits. Washington has requirement for annual audits. |
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404 |
Chair Williams |
Says the bill suggests a review, not an audit. |
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TAPE 147,
A |
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014 |
Vice Chair Anderson |
Asks if a review can uncover fraud activities. |
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016 |
Schwindt |
Explains the difference between a review and an
audit and the difference in cost. |
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030 |
Rep. Krummel |
Asks what cost there would be for a review. |
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038 |
Schwindt |
Responds around $1,000 to $2,000 for an association. |
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045 |
Rep. Krummel |
Asks if there have been fraud or malfeasance
problems. |
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047 |
Schwindt |
Discusses professional property managers. The many home owners associations that are
not professionally managed are at risk. |
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053 |
Thompson |
Explains growth in reserve funds. |
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063 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Asks about multi-unit owners in several states. Asks what the cap means. |
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073 |
Schwindt |
Answers he is not aware of associations with multi-state
ownership. |
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084 |
Rep. Jenson |
Expresses concern about associations having this
financial review without a statute. Declares conflict of interest on this
bill. |
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090 |
Chair Williams |
Closes public hearing on HB 2864. Opens work session
on HB 2864. |
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HB 2864
WORK SESSION |
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092 |
Rep.
Krummel |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2864-1 amendments dated
4/9/03. |
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093 |
Vice
Chair Anderson |
Declares
conflict of interest on HB 2864. |
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094 |
Rep.
Krummel |
Declares
conflict of interest on HB 2864. |
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VOTE:
7-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Jenson, Macpherson |
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095 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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096 |
Rep.
Krummel |
MOTION: Moves HB 2864 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE:
7-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Jenson, Macpherson |
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097 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. REP. KRUMMEL will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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099 |
Chair Williams |
Closes work session on HB 2864. Opens work session on HB 2694. |
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HB 2694
WORK SESSION |
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115 |
Bill Joseph |
Committee Counsel.
Explains HB 2694 which prescribes supplier’s obligations toward
retailer of farm implements.
Describes the -3 amendments (EXHIBIT
B). |
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150 |
Ron Moore |
President, Pacific Northwest Hardware and Implement Association.
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151 |
Verl Schivey |
St. Paul, Ernst John Deere Implements. |
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153 |
Don Shellenberg |
Oregon Farm Bureau. |
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155 |
Moore |
Testifies in support of HB 2694 which prescribes
supplier’s obligations toward retailer of farm implements. Describes -3 amendments to HB 2694. |
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258 |
Rep. Shetterly |
Affirms that everything has been fixed by the -3
amendment. |
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268 |
Schivey |
Comments that the bill covers short line
manufacturers. Describes oversupply of inventory and how it affects dealers. Explains
major liners. |
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288 |
Shellenberg |
Describes how equipment dealers are key to the
agriculture industry. Supports HB 2694. |
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298 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Asks if the bill would bring in manufacturer-owned
dealerships to displace local dealerships. |
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300 |
Moore |
Answers that is alright. |
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301 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2694-3 amendments dated
4/16/03. |
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VOTE:
9-0 |
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302 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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303 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
MOTION: Moves HB 2694 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 8-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Macpherson |
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304 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. REP. ZAUNER will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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305 |
Chair Williams |
Closes work session on HB 2694. Opens work session on HB 3259. |
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HB 3259
WORK SESSION |
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266 |
Rep. Jackie Dingfelder |
House District 45.
Testifies in support of HB 3259 which requires Public Health Officer,
State Fire Marshal or law enforcement agency to give written notice to school
district or person who resides or works near former illegal drug
manufacturing site that real property is determined to be not fit for use. Supports -2 amendments (EXHIBIT C). |
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290 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Asks what is a “rural area.” |
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300 |
Mark Landauer |
City of Portland.
Responds that rural area may not be covered. |
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TAPE 146,
B |
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017 |
Landauer |
Suggests fixing the bill to include rural area. |
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020 |
Harlan Levy |
Oregon Association of Realtors. Comments that un-annexed
portion in a county may need to be included. |
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038 |
Chair Williams |
Asks if this can be fixed on the Senate side. |
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046 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3259-2 amendments dated
4/10/03. |
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VOTE:
7-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Macpherson, Shetterly |
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048 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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050 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
MOTION: Moves HB 3259 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE:
7-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Macpherson, Shetterly |
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051 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. REP. DINGFELDER will lead discussion
on the floor. |
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052 |
Chair Williams |
Closes work session on HB 3259. Opens work session on HB 3318. |
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HB 3318
WORK SESSION |
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060 |
Bill Joseph |
Committee Counsel. Explains HB 3318 which increases
penalty for unlawful production of identification cards, licenses, permits,
forms or camera cards. Explains the -1 amendment (EXHIBIT D). |
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075 |
Rep. Jenson |
Asks if the -1 amendment assumes that minors are not
capable of understanding what crime is. |
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081 |
Joseph |
Responds that it could catch a lot of kids when
there are other laws that prevent such activity. Explains identity theft
focus. |
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088 |
Rep. Jenson |
Mentions there is still a crime as far as identity
theft. |
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090 |
Joseph |
Explains the difference in identity theft and age. |
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109 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Comments about unlawful identification cards. |
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130 |
Tim Martinez |
Oregon Bankers Association. Further explains the Criminal
Defense Bar’s concerns which have been fixed with the -1 amendment. |
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150 |
Rep. Barker |
Gives example of someone who makes ID’s for others. |
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155 |
Martinez |
Responds if making ID’s for other folks, they can be
charged. |
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161 |
Chair Williams |
Comments on false identification. |
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162 |
Rep.
Barker |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3318-1 amendments dated
4/16/03. |
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VOTE:
8-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 – Macpherson |
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163 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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164 |
Rep.
Barker |
MOTION: Moves HB 3318 to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE:
7-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Macpherson, Shetterly |
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165 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. REP. BARKER will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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202 |
Chair Williams |
Closes work session on HB 3318. Opens work session on HB 3329. |
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HB 3329
WORK SESSION |
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204 |
Bill Joseph |
Committee Counsel.
Explains HB 3329 which authorizes the Department of Justice to
initiate and participate in efforts to prepare for, and to assist in,
delivery of services to individuals traumatized by acts of mass violence. |
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211 |
Chair Williams |
Comments on previous hearing on this bill. Refers to
DOJ letter of 4/7/03 regarding services. |
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212 |
Rep.
Prozanski |
MOTION: Moves HB 3329 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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VOTE:
8-0 EXCUSED: 1 – Macpherson |
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253 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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REP. PROZANSKI
will lead discussion on the floor. |
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252 |
Chair Williams |
Comments that next Wednesday evening will be a
meeting. Closes the work session on HB 3329 and adjourns at 2:25 pm. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 2864-1 amendment, staff, 3 pp
B
– HB 2694-3 amendment, staff, 5 pp
C
– HB 3259-2 amendment, staff, 2 pp
D
– HB 3318-1 amendment, staff, 1 p