HOUSE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
May 19, 2003 Hearing Room 357
1:00 p.m. Tapes 197
- 198
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Max Williams, Chair
Rep. Gordon Anderson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Robert Ackerman, Vice-Chair
Rep. Jeff Barker
Rep. Bob Jenson
Rep. Jerry Krummel
Rep. Greg Macpherson
Rep. Floyd Prozanski
Rep. Lane Shetterly
STAFF PRESENT: Craig
Prins, Counsel
Ann Martin, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: SB 47 Public Hearing and Work
Session
SB 189A Public Hearing
SB 304 Public Hearing and Work
Session
SB 19A Work Session
SB 269 Public Hearing
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 197,
A |
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003 |
Chair Williams |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:14 p.m. Opens a
public hearing on SB 47. |
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SB 47
PUBLIC HEARING |
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015 |
Paul Snider |
Association of Oregon Counties. Submits testimony
and testifies in support of SB 47 which delays imposition of interest on
criminal judgments until July 1, 2007 (EXHIBIT
A). |
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051 |
Bradd Swank |
Special Counsel for Government Relations for State
Court Administrator’s Office. Testifies in support of SB 47. |
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060 |
Chair Williams |
Closes the public hearing on SB 47 and opens a work
session. |
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SB 47
WORK SESSION |
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061 |
Rep.
Macpherson |
MOTION: Moves SB 47 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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VOTE:
6-0-3 EXCUSED: 3 - Krummel, Prozanski, Shetterly |
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064 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. REP. MACPHERSON will lead discussion
on the floor. |
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071 |
Chair
Williams |
Closes
the work session on SB 47 and opens a public hearing on SB 189A. |
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SB 189A
PUBLIC HEARING |
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074 |
Craig Prins |
Committtee Counsel. Introduces SB 189A which creates
offense of organizing speed racing event. Discusses SB 90A which is the other
bill relating to speed racing (EXHIBIT
B). |
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091 |
Troy Costales |
Manager of the Transportation Safety Division, Oregon
Department of Transportation. Submits testimony and testifies in support of
SB 189A (EXHIBIT C). |
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122 |
Earl Ray (Smokey) Mainwaring |
School Bus driver. Represents Families Against
Speeding Drivers (FASD). Testifies in support of SB 189A. |
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155 |
Mark Landauer |
City of Portland, Government Relations. Testifies in
support of SB 189A. |
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181 |
Rep. Krummel |
Says he is concerned with legal races that take
place on public roads. Wonders how this bill will affect those races. |
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192 |
Landauer |
Says that this bill deals with the highways of
Oregon. |
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204 |
Rep. Krummel |
Explains that he wants to make sure that grand prix
type organized races are not illegal. |
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212 |
Costales |
Explains that SB 189A refers back to the current law
of street racing and speed racing
which rules out the situation he is referring to. |
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218 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Wonders if an organizer of a speed racing event is
more culpable than a participant. |
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225 |
Landauer |
Answers that the current penalty of a speed racer is
a class A traffic infraction. Adds that they decided that organizers of these
events should be held to a higher standard. |
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248 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Asks why they are limiting these races to highways
and is the definition of highway too narrowly drafted. |
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258 |
Costales |
Answers that they decided to limit it to any
highway. Explains definition of highway. |
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279 |
Chair Williams |
Comments that highway is defined in ORS 801.305. |
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285 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Stresses that there could be an exception built into
the bill to allow grand prix races. |
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298 |
Landauer |
Says that they will address this problem if SB 90
and SB 189A start to move. |
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305 |
Chair Williams |
Talks about fiscal. |
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338 |
Rep. Barker |
Asks about the definition of a person organizing a
race. |
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344 |
Costales |
Answers that it would be up to the officer to decide
the penalty. |
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351 |
Chair Williams |
Closes the public hearing on SB 189A and opens a
public hearing on SB 304. |
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SB 304
PUBLIC HEARING |
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370 |
Craig Prins |
Committee Counsel. Introduces SB 304 which expands
bases for waiving youth to be prosecuted as adult. |
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390 |
Al French |
Senior Deputy District Attorney. Oregon District
Attorneys Association. Testifies in support of SB 304. |
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413 |
Chair Williams |
Asks for a hypothetical situation in regards to this
bill. |
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420 |
French |
Gives examples. |
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TAPE 198,
A |
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018 |
Susan Russell |
Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association.
Testifies in support of SB 304. |
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035 |
Chair Williams |
Questions their positions on the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT D). |
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043 |
Julie McFarlane |
Juvenile Rights Project. Testifies in support of SB
304. |
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072 |
Rep. Krummel |
Asks what would make the state stipulate to the
waiver. |
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078 |
McFarlane |
Answers that perhaps the idea that they are getting
a more severe consequence because it is an adult adjudication. |
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085 |
Rep. Krummel |
Wonders if a prosecutor ever does not stipulate to
waiver. |
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100 |
McFarlane |
Says that they can do that, but she has never had a
district attorney refuse to stipulate to waiver. |
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107 |
Rep. Barker |
Asks if the amendments only limit this to Measure 11
crimes. |
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110 |
McFarlane |
Answers, that is correct. |
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112 |
Chair Williams |
Says he would be interested in a response regarding
when waiving up is not good. |
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125 |
French |
Responds that they would need to rely on the
district attorneys using good
discretion. Shares his concerns about the -1 amendments. |
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158 |
Russell |
Comments that they are talking about very serious
cases. |
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185 |
Chair Williams |
Asks if the judge has the discretion to not let the
waiver go forward. |
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200 |
McFarlane |
Answers, yes, the judge does have the discretion,
but rarely turns a waiver down. |
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225 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Asks if you wanted to stipulate to a waiver would it
still require a hearing and a court inquiry. |
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234 |
McFarlane |
Answers, no, in her experience there is a written or
oral stipulation. |
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239 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Says that he thinks there is a problem of statutory
construction. |
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253 |
McFarlane |
Comments that she would agree with him. |
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263 |
Chair Williams |
Asks if they can address the issue of the hearing
component. Asks if they have to have a hearing in front of a judge for these
to be effective. |
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284 |
Russell |
States that in her experience you can waive the
hearing. |
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386 |
Prins |
Ask for them to explain how Measure 11 crimes are
handled in adult court. |
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305 |
Russell |
Discusses what happens when a juvenile is charged
with a Measure 11 crime. |
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373 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Asks if a youth that committed a Measure 11 crime
would be serving time in an adult facility. |
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384 |
McFarlane |
Answers that they are talking about a waiver so the
provisions that cover Measure 11 would not apply. |
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396 |
Vice Chair Anderson |
Closes the public hearing on SB 304 and opens a work
session. |
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SB 304
WORK SESSION |
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410 |
Rep.
Krummel |
MOTION: Moves SB 304 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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415 |
Rep. Krummel |
Comments on bill. |
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435 |
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VOTE:
6-0-3 EXCUSED: 3 - Macpherson, Shetterly, Williams |
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438 |
Chair Williams |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. REP. KRUMMEL will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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442 |
Chair Williams |
Closes the work session on SB 304 and opens a work
session on SB 19A. |
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SB 19A WORK
SESSION |
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TAPE 197,
B |
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009 |
Craig Prins |
Committee Counsel. Introduces SB 19 which
establishes when youth offenders and persons alleged to be within jurisdiction
of juvenile court may be detained in place where adults are detained.
Discusses the –A4 and the –A2 amendments (EXHIBITS
E & F). |
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033 |
Timothy Travis |
Oregon Judicial Department. Says that they are in
support of the A–Engrossed bill
and the –A4 amendments. |
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105 |
Julie McFarlane |
Juvenile Rights Project. Says that the bill is too
broadly drafted to address the issues. Discusses the -A2 amendments that they
are proposing. |
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133 |
Prins |
States that the -A4’s supercede the -A3 amendments (EXHIBIT G). |
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138 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Asks Mr. Travis about the –A2 amendments. |
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144 |
Travis |
Explains that they had a lengthy debate about the
constitutional issues of the bill. Says that they are not violating a youth’s
constitutional rights. |
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172 |
McFarlane |
Says that there is no case law that allows for a
youth to be transferred to an adult setting without a jury trial. |
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195 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Asks if counsel could check with Legislative Counsel
regarding this issue. |
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202 |
Rep. Krummel |
Asks if the –A2 amendments take the bill back to the
original form of SB 19. |
|
207 |
McFarlane |
Answers no because the original bill also contained
a provision allowing for the placement of juveniles who had reached their 18th
birthday in adult jails. |
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216 |
Rep. Krummel |
Comments on the –A2 amendments. |
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227 |
McFarlane |
Says that they need to clarify some issues on the
bill. |
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244 |
Travis |
Says that they would still like the –A4 amendments. |
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267 |
Prins |
Asks Ms. McFarlane how she feels about the work
group’s ideas. |
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275 |
McFarlane |
Explains that they have always taken the position
that they oppose the idea of putting 18 year olds who were adjudicated within
the juvenile court in adult lock-ups. |
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297 |
Vice Chair Anderson |
Closes the work session on SB 19 and opens a public
hearing on SB 269. |
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SB 269
PUBLIC HEARING |
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|
303 |
Bill Joseph |
Committee Counsel. Introduces SB 269 which prohibits
employees of Office of Emergency Management from striking or recognizing
picket line. |
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317 |
Mary Botkin |
American Federation of State, County and Municipal
Employees (AFSCME) Council 75. Testifies in support of SB 269. |
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359 |
Ken Murphy |
Oregon Emergency Management. Testifies as neutral on
SB 269. Expresses his concerns. |
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397 |
Vice Chair Anderson |
Closes the public hearing on SB 269. Adjourns the
meeting at 2:30 p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– SB 47, written testimony, submitted by Paul Snider, 1 pg.
B
– SB 90A, A-Engrossed bill, submitted by staff, 10 pgs.
C
– SB 189A, written testimony, submitted by Troy Costales, 1 pg.
D
– SB 304, -1 amendments, submitted by staff, 1 pg.
E
– SB 19A, -A4 amendments, submitted by staff, 3 pgs.
F
– SB 19A, -A2 amendments, submitted by staff, 1 pg.
G
– SB 19A, -A3 amendments, submitted by staff, 3 pgs.