HOUSE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY

 

 

June 05, 2003 Hearing Room 357

1:00 pm Tapes 216 - 217

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Max Williams, Chair

Rep. Robert Ackerman, Vice-Chair

Rep. Gordon Anderson, Vice-Chair

Rep. Jeff Barker

Rep. Bob Jenson

Rep. Jerry Krummel

Rep. Greg Macpherson

Rep. Floyd Prozanski

Rep. Lane Shetterly

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Bill Taylor, Counsel

Nancy Massee, Committee Assistant

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:        

                                                SB 385A Public Hearing

                                                HB 2089 Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 216, A

004

Vice Chair Ackerman

Opens meeting at 1:14 pm.  Opens public hearing on SB 385A.

SB 385 A PUBLIC HEARING

010

Bill Taylor

Committee Counsel. Explains SB 385A which provides that prosecution for crime that constitutes ecosabotage may be commenced within five years after expiration of period of limitation otherwise applicable.

025

Sen. Ted Ferrioli

Senate District 30.  Testifies in support of SB 385A which helps define eco-sabotage. Explains Oregon’s position as a victim of eco-sabotage.  Gives example of an eco-sabotage act in Oregon. Asks the committee to support this bill. Testimony submitted from Oregon State University Department of Forest Science, Prof. Steve Strauss (EXHIBIT A).

112

Rep. Barker

Asks about the firebombing in Eugene.

126

Rep. Prozanski

Asks under what conditions it would be prosecutable.

130

Sen. Ferrioli

Describes prosecutable situations.

150

Pete Shepherd

Deputy Attorney General, Department of Justice (DOJ).  Testifies in support of SB 385A and amendments.  States this bill would not extend to ordinary retail car dealership sales or farm equipment sales.

162

Rep. Macpherson

Asks about statute of limitations to cut off prosecution and asks if this is consistent with other Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act (RICO) statutes.

228

Shepherd

Explains the racketeering statutes of limitations pertaining to prosecution. Explains the bill allows action to be brought within a specified number of years of the most recent criminal offense.

264

Rep. Jenson

Asks what are the distinctions between SB 385A and the eco-terrorism bill brought forth by the Legislature in 2001.

270

Rep. Shetterly

Comments on bills heard during the 2001 legislative session that related to crime of animal operation and agricultural research crimes would be subsumed within definition of eco-sabotage.

299

Rep. Prozanski

Asks if we are looking at expanding the statute of limitations for eco-sabotage crimes.

315

Shepherd

States that there is a dual nature in the racketeering statute both civil and criminal.

380

Sen. Ferrioli

States that in racketeering prosecutions the discovery of an action may lead to prior actions linked to the racketeering statute so far back it would not be prosecutable. 

420

Rep. Prozanski

Discusses certain crimes looking at ten years.

444

Sen. Ferrioli

Replies the intent was to add five years perspective and the RICO statute would cover conspiratorial crimes wherever back in time.

450

Taylor

States if the statute of limitations has not run, the bill gives an extension.  If it has run, there is no extension.

TAPE 217, A

033

Shepherd

Agrees with Mr. Taylor.

057

Rep. Macpherson

Discusses how the bill would work under the RICO statutes.

072

Sen. Ferrioli

Comments that in RICO a pattern has to be established.

082

Bill Kluting

Western Council of Industrial Workers. Testifies in support of SB 385A. Describes eco-terrorist acts and how they affect loggers.

120

Jim Geisinger

Associated Oregon Loggers. Testifies in support of SB 385A. Describes attempts to protect themselves from eco-terrorists.

168

Darrell Fuller

Oregon Auto Dealers.  Testifies in support of 385A. Relates to Eugene auto dealership.

178

Rep. Prozanski

States SB 385A is only a statute of limitation bill; it does not purport harsher penalties.

188

Geisinger

Explains harsher penalty and how perpetrators often escape due to distance from law enforcement.  A longer statute of limitations gives more time to find the terrorists.

200

Fuller

Discusses appropriate protection to those people subject to being victims of these acts of violence against the environment and animals.

220

Rep. Prozanski

Discusses rural acts with urban eco-violent conduct.

251

Kelly Stoner

Director, Stop Eco-Violence.  Submits testimony and testifies in support of SB 385A (EXHIBIT B). Describes acts of violence by eco-terrorists. Describes Earth Liberation Front beliefs and threats.

 

 

 

TAPE 216, B

014

Stoner

Emphasizes that Oregon is an epi-center for eco-terrorism.  Describes actors of eco-terror as sophisticated criminals.

041

Martin Taylor

Sierra Club. Testifies in support of SB 385A. Questions how the RICO statutes could be enforced.  Discusses political expression through violent acts.

183

Rep. Shetterly

Comments on language in the bill that refers to eco-terrorism. Some acts are not covered as felonies by SB 385A.

200

Chair Williams

Refers to page 3, Section 1, subsection 9 of the bill.

231

Rep. Ackerman

Comments on underlying felony and underlying products, or culpable mental state, or classification as a felony or misdemeanor. Refers to line 41, on page 2.

285

Rep. Prozanski

Refers to page 3, lines 3 through 10. Discusses possible situations of eco-sabotage and classes of misdemeanors or felonies

294

Committee

Discusses how to adjust the language of SB 385A to an acceptable level.

318

Dave Fidanque

Executive Director, American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). Testifies as neutral on SB 385A.  Suggests simplifying the bill.

398

Greg Addington

Oregon Farm Bureau.  Testifies in support of SB 385A. Says eco-sabotage is a growing problem in the natural resource industries.

TAPE 217, B

010

Terry Witt

Director, Oregonians for Food and Shelter.  Supports SB 385A. Agrees that there are issues in the bill that need to be addressed.

041

Rep. Jenson

Comments on the brick thrown through a greenhouse or a home, under the RICO statute, there would have to be a pattern of behavior that we need to keep in sight.

045

Chair Williams

Closes public hearing on SB 385A. Opens work session on HB 2089.

HB 2089 WORK SESSION

049

Bill Taylor

Committee Counsel.  Explains HB 2089 which requires restitution in all cases in which victim suffers pecuniary loss, and the -2 amendments. Explains a work group has been meeting on this bill for several months.

013

Pete Shepherd

Deputy Attorney General, Department of Justice (DOJ). Testifies in support of HB 2089 with the -2 amendments and submits testimony (EXHIBITS C and D). 

050

David Fidanque

Executive Director, American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and Coalition to Save the Oregon 181 laws. Testifies in support of HB 2089 with the -2 amendments. Further explains that originally this statute was to prevent state and local police from profiling persons of another race who look different and speak differently from white residents.

100

Rep. Prozanski

Asks if the City of Eugene was with the group working with the Coalition.

142

Rep. Barker

Asks if the Patriot Act would prevent talking with Muslims.

150

Fidanque

Answers there have been different interpretations of the effect of this statute on those interviews. This law permits state and local law enforcement to follow any lead in a criminal case.

170

Shepherd

Agrees the amendment will not make any changes in the legal parameters in which interviews can take place.

250

Rep. Prozanski

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2089-2 amendments dated 5/2/03.

 

 

VOTE:  8-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 – Krummel

251

Chair Williams

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

253

Rep. Prozanski

MOTION:  Moves HB 2089 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  7-1-1

AYE:               7 - Ackerman, Anderson, Jenson, Macpherson, Prozanski, Shetterly, Williams

NAY:               1 - Barker

EXCUSED:     1 – Krummel

254

Chair Williams

The motion CARRIES.

REP. WILLIAMS will lead discussion on the floor.

312

Chair Williams

Closes work session on HB 2089.  Adjourns meeting at 2:55 p.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 385A, written testimony, submitted by staff for Prof. Steve Strauss, OSU, 18 pp

B – SB 385A, written testimony, Kelly Stoner, 4 pp

C – HB 2089, written testimony, Peter Shepherd, 5 pp

D – HB 2089-2 amendments, staff, 2 pp