HOUSE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
June 19, 2003 Hearing Room 357
1:00 p.m. Tapes 223
- 224
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Max Williams, Chair
Rep. Robert Ackerman, Vice-Chair
Rep. Gordon Anderson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Jeff Barker
Rep. Bob Jenson
Rep. Jerry Krummel
Rep. Greg Macpherson
Rep. Floyd Prozanski
Rep. Lane Shetterly
STAFF PRESENT: Bill
Taylor, Counsel
Nancy Massee, Committee Assistant
MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD: HB 2759 Work Session
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 223,
A |
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003 |
Chair Williams |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:12 p.m. Opens work session on HB 2759. |
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HB 2759
WORK SESSION |
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013 |
Chair Williams |
Comments on interest groups and committees working
with addressing the court funding issues. |
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036 |
Bill Taylor |
Committee Counsel. Explains HB 2759 which eliminates
legislative policy and intent that judges of circuit court need adequate court
services to assist courts in exercising jurisdiction over family and
family-related matters. Discusses amendments to be considered, -2, -9, -18,
-19, -21, -22, -23, -24, and -25 (EXHIBITS
A-I). |
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077 |
Chair Williams |
Comments on amendments. |
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099 |
Doug Bray |
Trial Court Administrator, Multnomah County. Introduces
Susan Klosterman and Judge Dale Koch. Mentions that the Oregon State Bar will
speak to the -21 amendments. |
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124 |
Bray |
Discusses the -2 amendments which adjust all fees.
Speaks to the -9 amendments and the -18 amendments. |
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208 |
Bray |
Explains the -21 amendments. Discusses the -22
amendments. |
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258 |
Bray |
Continues discussing the -22 amendments. Explains the -24 amendments. Explains how -25 amendments change how
violations are handled in fee schedules. |
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381 |
Rep. Jenson |
Asks about the -2 amendments. |
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387 |
Bray |
Responds on the public safety budget. |
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407 |
Rep. Jenson |
Asks about the -18 amendments. |
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TAPE 224,
A |
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011 |
Rep. Barker |
Asks about the Brown
vs. Multnomah County case. |
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013 |
Bray |
Discusses the case. |
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029 |
Rep. Barker |
Asks about refund of filing fees. |
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038 |
Bray |
Responds on 15-day period for filing for refund. |
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045 |
Rep. Krummel |
Refers to the -22 amendments and asks about a
concern of creating loss of access to the court. |
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055 |
Bray |
Says that is a serious concern. |
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063 |
Rep. Krummel |
Asks if a series of motions are filed, can there be
a daily cost. |
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078 |
Chair Williams |
Explains how papers are handled in a process with multiple
filings. |
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126 |
Judge Koch |
Multnomah County Circuit Court. Testifies in support of HB 2759 and gives example
of how multiple filings can be processed. |
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150 |
Rep. Krummel |
Discusses court fees. |
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168 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Asks if types of fees have been considered for
certain proceedings. |
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178 |
Bray |
Agrees that those proceedings may support a fee. |
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191 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Wonders if the committee should pursue these
alternative funding methods. |
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200 |
Bray |
Answers that they have tried to come up with other
funding for a revenue basis. |
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207 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Refers to -21 amendments. Wonders if agricultural
committee needs the current mediation program. |
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218 |
Bray |
Defers to the Oregon State Bar and Oregon Legal
Services to address that issue. |
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238 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Asks about the -22 amendments and elimination of
fees. |
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241 |
Bray |
Talks about those proceedings. |
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271 |
Rep. Macpherson |
Asks about costs of civil litigation in business. |
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282 |
Bray |
Responds that the filing fee is $167; the jury trial
fee is $175; and the court trial fee is $75. |
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295 |
Rep. Macpherson |
Asks about cost of range of service that the courts
deliver. |
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310 |
Judge Koch |
Comments on the court fees and describes difficulty in sorting out cases by type. |
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322 |
Rep. Macpherson |
Asks if there has been any analysis done regarding
the court cost and attorney fees. |
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334 |
Bray |
Replies that it is difficult to attach a specific
fee to a type of case. |
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352 |
Rep. Macpherson |
Asks about the dispute resolution process. |
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363 |
Bray |
Says that he is not prepared to answer that
question. |
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369 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Refers to the -22 amendments, Section 9, page 8. |
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419 |
Judge Koch |
Answers there is a fee for the filing of a motion
and that fee is for filing a response. |
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434 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Asks if there is an issue for certain individuals to
be able to bring their enforcement actions forward. |
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441 |
Judge Koch |
Answers that the fee for that motion is $45 and can
be waived or deferred with a judgment entered against the responding party. |
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TAPE 223,
B |
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010 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Asks if judges across the state will be willing to
defer the fee. |
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020 |
Judge Koch |
Responds on enforcement obligations. |
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035 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Asks when jury trial fee is due; is it when trial is
set or when they initially file. |
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036 |
Bray |
Answers due at the time trial is set. |
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039 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Asks how much will be collected under Section 9,
page 8 of the -22 amendments. |
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044 |
Klossman |
Believes approximately $1.5 million. |
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059 |
Michael Mason |
Confederated Tribes of the Warm Springs Reservation/Chair,
Legal Aid Services of Oregon. Testifies in support of the -2 amendments and
the -21 amendments. Describes how offices would have to be closed without
this bill. |
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168 |
Bob Oleson |
Oregon State Bar. Testifies in support of HB 2759
and the amendments. |
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183 |
Jim Markee |
Oregon Collectors Association and Mortgage Lenders
Association. Describes work group that worked on fees. Supports HB 2759 and
amendments. |
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247 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Asks what type of mediation is being done through
the Department of Agriculture. |
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252 |
Mason |
Answers that it is a wide range of legal cases. Does
not know who does the mediation. |
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266 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Asks if there is a “means” test. Wonders if we are
subsidizing people who can pay. |
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269 |
Mason |
Says he does not believe there is a “means” test and
that it is family farmers using the service. |
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274 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Asks about filing fees for summary judgment
proceedings. Asks if they have discussed a fee structure for these
proceedings. |
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283 |
Olson |
Answers that there has been a lot of discussion
about different ways to generate money. |
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291 |
Susan Grabe |
Oregon State Bar. Testifies on HB 2759 and says that
issue came up, but there was resistance to the idea so they did not pursue it.
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300 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Inquires who opposed it. |
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303 |
Grabe |
Answers practitioners and court staff. Says they
thought it would be difficult to track fees on motions. |
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316 |
Chair Williams |
Comments that early next week there will be another
work session on this bill and then the bill will be referred to Ways and
Means. |
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332 |
Rep. Prozanski |
Asks about a consolidated amendment. |
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336 |
Chair Williams |
Says that there will be one consolidated amendment
to vote on. |
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367 |
Vice Chair Ackerman |
Comments on issues raised for additional funds. |
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380 |
Chair Williams |
Asks Vice Chair Ackerman to work with Mr. Mason on
his amendment. Closes the work session on HB 2759. Adjourns the meeting at 2:32
p.m. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 2759, -2 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 3/20/03, 75 pgs.
B
– HB 2759, -9 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 5/6/03, 3 pgs.
C
– HB 2759, -18 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 6/13/03, 2 pgs.
D
– HB 2759, -19 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 6/13/03, 3 pgs.
E
– HB 2759, -21 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 6/13/03, 7 pgs.
F
– HB 2759, -22 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 6/13/03, 11 pgs.
G
– HB 2759, -23 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 6/13/03, 1 pg.
H
– HB 2759, -24 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 6/16/03, 4 pgs.
I
– HB 2759, -25 amendments, submitted by staff, dated 6/18/03, 4 pgs.