PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2656

 

TAPE 95 A-B, Tape 96 A

 

HOUSE REVENUE COMMITTEE

MARCH 25, 2003†† 8:30 AM†† STATE CAPITOL BUILDING

 

Members Present:††††††††††† ††††††††††† Representative Lane Shetterly, Chair

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Representative Wayne Scott, Vice Chair

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Representative Joanne Verger, Vice Chair

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Representative Vicki Berger

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Representative Pat Farr

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Representative Mark Hass

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Representative Elaine Hopson

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Representative Max Williams

 

Members Excused:††††††††† ††††††††††† Representative Barnhart

 

Witness Present:††††††††††† ††††††††††† Senator Bill Fisher, Senate District 1

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Dr. Robert Barber, Central Oregon Community College

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Margaret Bradford, Rogue Community College

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Rep, Tim Knopp, House District 54

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Mike Gaudette, Southwestern Oregon Community College

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Donald Reeder, Central Oregon Community College

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Dr. Jesus (Jess) Carreon, Portland Community College

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Cam Preus Braley, Commissioner, Community Colleges

 

Staff Present:††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Paul Warner, Legislative Revenue Officer

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Steve Meyer, Legislative Revenue Office

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††† ††††††††††† Kathy Tooley, Committee Assistant

 

TAPE 95, SIDE A

004

Chair Shetterly

Calls meeting to order at 8:35 a.m.

 

005

Steve Meyer

Gave background of HB 2656 which prohibits commissioner for community college services from using amounts received from local property taxes in determining amount of state aid to be distributed to community college districts and community college services districts.HB 2656 has no revenue impact and has subsequent referral to Ways and Means Committee. Exhibit 1

 

021

Senator Fisher

In theory agrees with HB 2656, however testified in opposition to the bill.He emphasized that one community college should not be favored over another.Describes financial concerns of community colleges in his district and the negative effect of this bill on those schools.Notes a court case is pending regarding distribution of funding.

 

100

Bob Barber

Testifies in favor of HB 2656.Summarizes written testimony supporting removing property taxes as a factor in the community college formula...Exhibit 2

 

335

Rep Patridge

Testifies in support of HB 2656 which was introduced because of equity argument.His concern is the funding formula for community colleges.He terms the formula as fundamentally flawed and asks the committee to look was what is fair and equitable.

 

390

Margaret Bradford

Testifies in support of HB 2656.Reapportionment has meant higher tuition for students and monies should stay in the community that voted them in.

 

 


 

TAPE 96, SIDE A

 

142

Rep. Knopp

Sponsored HB 2656 to address inequities and begin discussion on community college funding.

 

172

Mike Gaudette

Testifies in support of HB 2656.Discusses lack of equity in the funding formula.

 

285

Don Reader

Discusses cuts in funding to the Central Oregon Community College.Summarizes testimony of students who testified before the community college board.

 

397

 

Questions and discussion

 

391

Rep. Farr

Voices supports for bill

 

410

 

Questions and discussion.

 

412

Barber

Discusses historical decision-making process for community colleges and the advisory role to the commission and then to the state board.

 

 

 

Questions and discussion

 

TAPE 95, SIDE B

 

008

Rep. Williams

Expressed concerns relating to passing bond measures for capital construction.There is a distinction between a capital bond that passes for bricks and mortar supported by the local community and the broader issue of operation expenses of a college that is funded substantially through state college.They are separate approaches in how community college funding is dealt with.

 

 

 

Discussion

 

027

Rep. Hass

Agreed with Rep. Williamsí comments and stressed the need to find a solution to bring in more revenues rather than take community college funding from one another.

 

057

Barber

Responds that community colleges have been good partners and urged funding from state allocation not from other colleges.

 

083

Donald Reader

K-12 is based on the equity formula; however, each community college has special needs.

 

111

Jesus Carreon

Spoke in opposition to the bill and stressed the existing funding mechanism does not work for all agencies.Urged putting all funding on the table. Should not look at one portion when whole needs to be addressed.

 

186

 

Emphasized the public policy issue of parity.

 

 

 

Questions and discussion.

 

275

Cam Preus Braley

Does not support this legislation.The Community College Board realizes the formula is not working and requests a review of the formula.Urged a new formula to pay community colleges for the students served.Continues that this bill removes one factor, the formula needs to look at all the factors.Looking at one diminishes possibility of a finding answer for all.

 

308

Chair Shetterly

Clarified the committees Intention to revisit the formula.

 

 

 

Discussion

 

324

Rep. Hopson

What is the composition of rest of the community college board?

 

330

Braley

Responds five community college presidents and himself. .

 

333

Rep. Verger

If there was a plan, why would we have all this legislation?

 

342

Braley

Canít address impetus for legislation.Community College Board has been looking into funding formula since last April.Noted the need to build a new proposal.

 

 

 

Questions and discussion

 

Closes Public Hearing on HB 2656

 

389

Chair Shetterly

Meeting adjourned at 9:50 a.m.

 

Tape Log Submitted by,

 

 

 

Kathy Tooley, Committee Assistant Summarized by Kim Taylor James

 

Exhibit Summary:

1.†††††††† HB 2656, Meyer, Revenue Impact Statement, 2/14/03, 1 page

2.†††††††† HB 2656, Barber/Reeder, Written Testimony 3/25/03, 7 pages

3.†††††††† HB 2656, Levine, Written Testimony, 3/25/03, 2 pages

4.†††††††† HB 2656, Gaudette, Written Testimony, 3/25/03, 2 pages

5.†††††††† HB 2656, Carreon, Written Testimony, 3/25/03, 2 pages