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PUBLIC
HEARING ON HB 3129, HJR
43, HB 3377, HB 3399 WORK
SESSION 3050 |
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TAPE 107,
108, A-B |
APRIL 3,
2003 8:30 AM STATE CAPITOL BUILDING
Members Present: Representative Lane Shetterly, Chair
Representative
Wayne Scott, Vice Chair
Representative
Joanne Verger, Vice Chair
Representative
Vicki Berger
Representative
Pat Farr
Representative
Mark Hass
Representative
Elaine Hopson
Representative
Max Williams
Members Excused: Representative Phil Barnhart
Representative
Vicki Berger
Witness Present: Representative Randy Miller,
District 37
Joe
Ledger, Associated Oregon Industries (AOI)
Joe
Schweinhart, AOI
Representative
Jeff Merkley, District 47
Senator
Steve Harper, District 28
Peter
Hainley, Community and Shetter Assistance Corp
John
McCulley, Apple, Pear and Cherry Growers of
Hood River, Wasco, Umatilla and Jackson Counties
Baltazar
Ortiz, Hacienda Community Development Corporation
Larry
Perry, Oregon Common Cause
Jack
Kenny, Oregon Housing and Community Services
Mike
Grainey, Oregon Office of Energy
Jeff
Bissonnette, Citizen’s Utility Board of Oregon
Libby
Henry, Eugene Water and Electric Board
Robin
Freeman, Oregon People’s Utility District Association
Bob
Costagna, Oregon Catholic Conference
Mary
Mann, Goose Hollow Window Company, Inc, Metro Family Housing
Council, Oregon Apartment Association, Oregon Remodelers
Association, National Association of Remodeling Industry
Matt
Blevins, Oregon Environmental Council
Craig
Smith, Chemeketa Community College, Willamette University
Bob
Barber, Central Oregon Community College
Stephen
Kridelbaugh, Southwestern Oregon Community College
Richard
Levine, Rogue Community College
Cam
Preis Braley, Commission on Community Colleges
Staff Present: Paul
Warner, Legislative Revenue Officer
Lizbeth
Martin-Mahar, Legislative Revenue Office
Steve
Meyer Legislative Revenue Office
Kathy
Tooley, Committee Assistant
TAPE 107, SIDE A
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Chair Shetterly |
Calls meeting to order at 8:40 a.m. |
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 3129
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Lizbeth Martin-Mahar |
Provided background and described HB 3129 (Exhibit 1); discussed
sunset; revenue impact (Exhibit 2); charitable contribution credit, (Exhibit 3). |
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Rep. Randy Miller |
Spoke in support of HB 3129. The
bill is designed to empower Oregonians to give up to $100 to charities of their
choice, instead of being limited to special interests that were able to get
into the tax code. |
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Rep. Miller |
Discussed removing political and cultural trust credit. |
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Chair Shetterly |
There is an addition to Oregon income if a federal deduction is
claimed for the same contribution. Questions and discussion regarding contributions over the credit. |
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Ledger |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, regarding pollution control
credit. This is one of the few
credits left that is designed to keep industries here. |
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Joe Schweinhart |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, (Exhibit 4). Discussed advantages of business energy
tax credit. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Recessed Public Hearing on HB 3129 |
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HJR 43
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Steve Meyer |
Provided background and described HJR 43. |
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Chair Shetterly |
We’ve just been handed the -1 amendment that appears to replace the
bill. |
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Rep. Jeff Merkley |
Spoke in support of HJR 43 (Exhibit 5), described education brief and
basic concept of the bill, to provide for an index of 2001-2002 and fund
Oregon schools at an inflation adjusted per student minimum floor in an
effort to provide education stability. |
TAPE 107, SIDE A
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Rep. Merkley Rep. Merkley |
Discussed need for study on what worked or didn’t work with
Proposition 98 in California and elsewhere; what triggers make sense or don’t
make sense; and the vote it should take to lower the minimum. Discussed State School Funding per ADMr (Page 5, Exhibit 5). |
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Sen. Steve Harper |
Spoke in support of HJR 43 and -1 amendment, (Exhibit 6) as necessary
for stable school funding to allow superintendents certainty in knowing what
the floor would be, with a possible add back list. This floor coupled with a local option can become a package
concept that should be considered. |
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Rep. Hass |
What about the shrinking pie of human services, community colleges
and higher education? |
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Rep. Merkley |
This looks down the road, goes to the voters next year and would not
be in place until 2005-2006. Need to
be aggressive on the education front. |
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Sen. Harper |
See this bill as floor, and the savings account will fill in the gaps
in disaster years. Questions and discussion regarding local option and punting approval
back to voters. |
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Rep. Hopson |
In regards to the quality education model. How can we be sure the floor is not seen as ceiling? |
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Sen. Harper |
There is no guarantee based on the economy. This is a good first step. |
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Chair Shetterly |
This provides element of stability, if take this route. |
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Sen. Harper |
School financing is another discussion. This is the first tier of building block. Allows communities to put out school
budget year after year with some certainty. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Using the stability fund as gap filler would take an amendment. Looking
at the -1, the floor is general fund when combined with local revenue is
equal to prior year adjusted formula.
Does not take into account use of the stability fund which is money
other than general fund. There are
years fund might dip and the stability fund needs to be gap filler. Questions and discussion regarding measure of school attendance. Discussed reasoning for preference on ADMr
and for utilizing an index based on a particular year was for crisp measure. |
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Chair Shetterly |
If this was enacted 5 years ago, what would that general fund
obligation be for 2002-2003 school year?
Would like to see those numbers. |
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Merckley |
One of the factors is an estimate of increase in student population
and inflation over a two year figures. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Recess Public Hearing on HJR 43 |
REOPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 3129
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Peter Hainley |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, (Exhibit 7) regarding the elimination
of farm worker tax credits, cited additional administrative burden the bill
would provide. Provided CASA of
Oregon Status Report, (Exhibit 8). |
TAPE 106, SIDE B
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John McCulley |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129.
Reiterated comments made by Hainley.
Important tax credit to growers who provide a significant amount of
farm worker housing. |
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Balthazar Ortiz |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, (Exhibit 9). Discussed benefits of stable farmer worker
housing based on personal experience; cited disruption to families when
families have to live in separate quarters.
Adequate housing provides dignity and family base of support. |
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Larry Perry |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, (Exhibit 10) as it affects the repeal
of the political tax credit. The one
tax credit that relates to the process of governing and democratic decision
making. |
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Jack Kenny |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, (Exhibit 11) as it relates to the
farm worker housing credit. Reiterated
points made by Hainley, McCulley, and Ortiz. |
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Mike Grainey |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, as it pertains to the business energy
tax credit. Reiterated comments made
by Schweinhart. Discussed energy tax
credits (Exhibit 12), and 2001 legislation to enhance it in response to the
energy crunch, (Exhibit 13). |
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Jeff Bissoneth |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, reiterated comments by the Office of
Energy and others who have cautioned the Committee about ending the energy
tax credit. |
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Libby Henry |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, as it pertains to the energy tax
credit, (Exhibit 14). |
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Robin Freeman |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, as it pertains to the energy tax
credit. |
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Bob Castagna |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, as it relates to the elimination of
farm worker housing construction and loans.
The credit accomplishes a worthy social goal. |
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Mary Mann |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, as it pertains to the energy tax
credit. |
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Matt Blevins |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3129, (Exhibit 17), one of the few times
OEC and AOI agree. Oppose losing
business energy tax credit. The
credit is an example of a tax credit that does good things. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Closed Public Hearing on HB 3129. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Closed Public Hearing on HJR 43, will defer further testimony for
today. |
WORK SESSION HB 3050
TAPE 107, SIDE B
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Chair Shetterly |
For the record, Tom Gallagher on behalf of the Newspaper Publishers’
Association who previously testified as undecided, is now not opposed to the
bill and there is no opposition on the bill. |
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Rep. Williams |
MOTION: MOVED HB 3050 TO THE
HOUSE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION ROLL CALL: MOTION PASSED 6-0-3 REPRESENTATIVES VOTING AYE:
Hass, Hopson, Scott, Verger, Williams, Chair Shetterly. EXCUSED:
Barnhart, Berger, Farr. Rep. Verger will carry the bill. |
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Chair Shetterly |
REQUESTED UNANIMOUS CONSENT
TO TEMPORARILY RETURN TO WORK SESSION ON HB 3050 FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING
REP. FARR TO VOTE. ORDER: HEARING NO OBJECTION SO ORDERED. (ALL MEMBERS
PRESENT EXCEPT REPS. BARNHART AND BERGER, EXCUSED) REPRESENTATIVE FARR HOW DO
YOU VOTE ON HB 3050. |
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Rep. Farr |
Aye. |
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FINAL VOTE: MOTION PASSED 7-0-2. REPRESENTATIVES VOTING AYE: Farr, Hass, Hopson, Scott, Verger, Williams,
Chair Shetterly. EXCUSED: Barnhart, Berger. |
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OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 3377 AND HB 3399
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Meyer |
Provided background on HB 3377 and HB 3399. |
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Craig Smith |
Spoke in support of HB 3399, even though it would require further
reductions to their budget, Chemeketa Community College Board also voted
unanimously in favor of the bill. If don’t support this bill is there a
public policy reason for the disparity in funding per student per community? Taxes are input for the public good, do
not receive services based on taxes paid, but based on public policy. |
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Pres. Barber |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3399. No statutory support for moving 100% of property tax into the
formula; it circumvents ORS 341 which speaks to local control. There is no statute or policy defining,
promoting or requiring the shift from local control. |
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Stephen Kreidelbaugh Kreidelbaugh |
Spoke in favor of HB 3377, (Exhibit 18), provides more stable base
for community college operation; removes dependence on the FTE as the largest
funding element. Discussed huge sense
of frustration amongst community college boards and presidents, about what is
going on in system. Frustration
revolves around issue of stability. Welcomes
state’s intrusion in funding formula, would encourage significant representation
from intelligent, well-meaning and thoughtful Oregonians to look at how
system should be funded. Spoke in opposition to HB 3399. for same reasons supported HB 3377
citing issues of stability and local control. |
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Richard Levine |
Spoke in opposition to HB 3399, and in favor HB 3377. Discussed tuition differential and local
option. |
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Cam Preis Braly |
There is wide disagreement on any funding formula. Reminded the Committee that there is a
Committee of Presidents and the State Board that is working on a new formula
for the future, suspending the current formula. See these bills as hindrances to forming the perfect formula. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Inclination to use work group for legislative input. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Closed Public Hearing on HB 3377 and HB 3399. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Meeting adjourned at 10:28 a.m. |
Tape Log Submitted by,
Kathy Tooley, Committee
Assistant Reviewed by Kim Taylor James
Exhibit Summary:
1.
Martin-Mahar,
“Staff Measure Summary HB 3129”, 1 page
2.
Martin-Mahar,
“Revenue Impact HB 3129”, 2 pages
3.
Martin-Mahar,
“Income Tax Federal Deductions”, 17 pages
4.
Schweinhart,
“Testimony HB 3129”, 2 pages
5.
Rep.
Merkley, “Education Funding HJR 43”, 9 pages
6.
Sen.
Harper, “HJR 43 -1 Amendment”, 2 pages
7.
Hainley,
“Testimony HB 3129”, 11 pages
8.
Hainley,
“CASA of Oregon, Status Report, Spring 2003”, 2 pages
9.
Ortiz,
“Testimony HB 3129”, 1 page
10.
Perry,
“Testimony HB 3129”, 4 pages
11.
Kenny,
“Testimony HB 3129”, 1 page
12.
Grainey,
“State Efforts to Increase and Stabilize Energy Supply”, 2 pages
13.
Grainey,
“Testimony HB 3129”, 6 pages
14.
Henry,
“Testimony HB 3129”, 3 pages
15.
Freeman,
“Testimony HB 3129”, 6 pages
16.
Mann,
“Testimony HB 3129”, 3 pages
17.
Blevins, “Testimony HB 3129”, 1 page
18.
Kridelbaugh,
“Testimony HB 3377”, 2 pages
19.
Snoddy,
“Written Testimony HB 3129, 1 page
20.
Donovan,
“Written Testimony HB 3129”, 1 page
21.
Taylor,
“Written Testimony HJR 43”, 1 page
22.
Malik,
“Written Staff Measure Summary HB 3050”, 1 page
23.
Carreon,
“Written Testimony HB 3377 and HB 3399