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PUBLIC
HEARING ON HB 2819, HB 2923, HJR
45, HB 2486, HB 3271, HB 2629, HB 2630, HB 3052, HB 3451, HJR, 27, HB 3500,
HJR 13, HB2556, HB 3607, HB 2837, HB 2598, HB 2599, HB 2601, HB 2602, HB
2604, HB 3278 |
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TAPE 120,
121, A-B |
APRIL 11,
2003 8:30 AM STATE CAPITOL BUILDING
Members Present: Representative Lane Shetterly, Chair
Representative
Joanne Verger, Vice Chair
Representative
Phil Barnhart
Representative
Vicki Berger
Representative
Pat Farr
Representative
Mark Hass
Representative
Elaine Hopson
Representative
Max Williams
Members Excused: Representative Wayne Scott, Vice
Chair
Witness Present: Representative Mary Nolan, District
36
Representative
Jerry Krummel, District 26
Representative
Susan Morgan, District 2
Steve
Chiovaro, Superintendent Days Creek School
Dr.
Bruce Herbert, Florence
Brian
Reeder, Department of Education
William
Lay, Pioneer Youth Corps of Oregon
Catherine
Lay, League of Oregon Charter Schools,
Charter School Operator
Nicole
Bregato, Staff for Representative Cliff Zauner
Daniel
Sell, Gervais district resident
Laurie
Wimmer Whelan, Oregon Revenue Coalition
Staff Present: Paul
Warner, Legislative Revenue Officer
Mazen
Malik, Legislative Revenue Office
Steve
Meyer, Legislative Revenue Office
Lizbeth
Martin-Mahar, Legislative Revenue Office
Kathy
Tooley, Committee Assistant
TAPE 120, SIDE A
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Chair Shetterly |
Calls meeting to order at 8:35 a.m.
HB 3079 has been withdrawn from consideration. |
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HJR 45
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Mazen Malik |
Provided description of HJR 45, (Exhibit 1). |
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Rep. Mary Nolan |
Spoke in support of HJR 45, part of two piece proposal for education
funding. A strong and prosperous economy relies on a successful high quality
education system. Described companion piece in Education Committee that seeks
to establish a common statewide definition of a basic education. This bill allows
the ability to provide a quality level of education beyond a basic education;
noted communities may want to supplement basic education, exceeding or
augmenting education based on local industry requirements. |
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Rep. Hopson |
Regarding the issue of equity, more dollars wouldn’t necessarily mean
better, but different, how do you see this as not separating the haves and
have-nots in regards to educational opportunity? |
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Rep. Nolan |
Would like to see Quality Education Model implemented statewide so
every K-12 school district has the capacity, management structure, teaching
staff to deliver the education achievements the model represents. Schools are
not there today, and don’t believe it will happen this session. Equity demands the definition of a floor
that is consistent statewide, that is the equity element. Current structure does not provide for
equity. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Where this proposes a local option, there is opposition by OEA and
COSA; have you had response from them to this proposal? |
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Rep. Nolan |
Have had conversation with education advocates and representatives,
who would prefer a different end result, but acknowledge their option may not
be there at sine die. |
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Rep. Barnhart |
Have you considered separating the pieces of this to the extent that
it may not become a revision? The
bill addresses two different issues one as discussed, a second issue is how a
local election would be needed and the vote totals required to pass a measure. |
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Rep. Nolan |
Having chosen a revision, would prefer one conversation about the
issue, rather than multiple measures which can be confusing. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Recess HJR 45. |
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2819
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Rep. Jerry Krummel |
This is a policy choice providing flexibility for parents, students
and school districts. The concept is
to stop paying for seat time; it is aimed at helping student get what they
need for a rounded education. Also
helps with Army National Guard Youth Challenge Program. Enables part of money
from school district to follows student. |
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Rep. Jerry Krummel Rep. Krummel |
Registration based on ADMw, for attendance effective September 1
annually in resident school district.
Allows transfer to another district that fits student needs and 80% of
dollars travel with them. Discussed and supported -1 amendment from Rep. Zauner. |
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Rep. Verger |
Provided examples of a child living in a district, and transferring
to another district where the money does follow. How is that different from HB 2819? The amendment says student can move without the consent of the
school district. Can’t students
currently transfer and have the money follow? |
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Rep. Krummel |
Currently, school districts have a choice to decline the application,
or allow child to go, but not send the money with child. |
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Rep. Krummel |
Currently takes approval of the school district. With the amendment if the district declines
a transfer, the parent and student could still transfer with 80% of dollars. |
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Rep. Verger |
Currently system is reciprocal? |
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Rep. Krummel |
Answered affirmatively |
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Steve Meyer |
For clarification the statute with amendment appears to still require
written consent; inquired if wording was as Rep. Krummel intended? |
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Rep. Krummel |
Need to check with Legislative Counsel on correct language. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Noted other mandatory language that may need to be reconciled. |
TAPE 121, SIDE A
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Rep. Barnhart |
Regarding establishment of a count as of September 1, what about
mobility of students during the school year, and where families aren’t registered
by September 1. |
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Rep. Krummel |
Would prefer a census twice a year, November 1 and March 1 to capture
that turnover. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Recounted ECONorthwest study which show dramatic attendance differences
during the year. |
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Rep. Krummel |
The November count would be registration by the parent; the March
would be a count by the district of who has moved in and out. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Recess Public Hearing on HB 2819 |
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2923
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Steve Meyer |
Described HB 2923, (Exhibit 4). |
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Rep. Susan Morgan |
Discussed letter from Anh Nguyen, Oregon Department of Education,
(Exhibit 5), described a transfer could be made without statute change, asks
the committee to hold the bill pending further conversation with Legislative
Counsel. |
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Steve Chiovaro |
Spoke in support of HB 2923. Provided history of small school
correction (Exhibit 6). |
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Rep. Barnhart |
On switching from public school to a charter school, what are the
considerations? |
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Chiovaro |
Small schools need educational reform, not enough money to have in
depth educational reform required. Charter school law provides $50,000 in
start up grants to allow Days Creek to see what does work in the state and
nation. Secondly, a federal grant provides for $300,000 which allows
for continued operation of the school. |
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Rep. Hopson |
How many students are at Days Creek High School? |
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Chiovaro |
Approximately 220 for K-12. |
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Rep. Hopson |
Days Creek High School currently receives $300,000 from Basic Schools
for the high school? |
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Chiovaro |
A little more approximately $326,000. |
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Dr. Bruce Herbert |
Spoke in support of HB 2923.
Reiterated testimony of Chiovaro.
Working to establishing a charter high school, many issues discussed are
seen in Florence. Will have amendment
that addresses comprehensive high school programs in rural areas. |
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Brian Reeder |
As it addresses Days Creek issue, do not believe need a bill; have
not seen the proposed amendments. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Close Public Hearing HB 2923 |
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REOPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2819
TAPE 120, SIDE B
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William Lay, |
Spoke in opposition to HB 2819, concerned with -1 amendment; parent
should be able to decide what school a child attends. |
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Catherine Lay |
Spoke in opposition to HB 2819, described referrals process, level of
bureaucracy created for child to attend school of choice. |
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Nicole Bregato |
Discussed -1 amendment (Exhibit 3).
Amendment allows child to transfer out without district consent, if
the school is failing. Discussed
Audrey Swett’s written testimony regarding Gervais school District Report
Card compared to Silver Falls (Exhibit 7). |
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Rep. Hopson |
Would it be possible for the districts to merge? |
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Bregato |
There is discussion, but resistance from Gervais School Board. |
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Rep. Williams |
Cosponsors legislation, HB 3104, with Chair Shetterly, calling for
review of school district operations, and offers balanced plan for
reorganization which could encourage additional consolidation. There are
instances that would behoove students and community to consider district consolidation. |
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Daniel Sell |
Concurred with Lays in that the bill does not give the student a
right to attend a particular school, however the bill is a stating point
(Exhibit 8). Gervais closed all
transfers. Discussed unanswered threats to children, and removal of child
from Gervais school. Currently trying
to have Gervais declared a failing school district under the “No Child Left
Behind Act”, enabling the family the right to choose where the child attends
school; discussed Silverton school district and problems with recordkeeping. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Closed Public Hearing on HB 2819 |
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2486
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Lizbeth Martin-Mahar |
Provided description of background HB 2486, (Exhibit 9). |
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Matt Meador |
Represented Rep. Nelson, spoke in support of HB 2486 (Exhibit 10). |
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Chair Shetterly |
For the record, received written testimony from the Oregon Auto
Dealers Association, (Exhibit 11) |
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Laurie Wimmer Whalen |
Spoke in opposition to HB 2486, creating a tax exemption for consumer
debt is not in the state’s interest.
It is not means tested, opposes new tax credits if cannot meet
criteria and if cannot be revenue neutral. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Closed Public Hearing on HB 2486. |
REOPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HJR 45
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Brian Reeder |
This bill would make fundamental changes to school funding, putting
control into local hands. Department
of Education supports change to structure of funding system as local control
is a fundamental part of education. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Closed Public Hearing on HJR 45. |
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 3271
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Chair Shetterly |
Closed Public Hearing on HB 3271 (Exhibit 12). |
OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2629, HB 2630, HB 3052, HB 3451, HJR 27, HB 3500, HJR 13, HB 2556, HB 3607, HB 2837, HB 2598, HB 2599, HB 2601, HB 2602, HB 2604, HB 3278
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Chair Shetterly |
Closed Public Hearing on HB 2629, HB 2630, HB 3052, HB 3451, HJR 27, HB 3500, HJR 13, HB 2556, HB 3607, HB 2837, HB 2598, HB 2599, HB 2601, HB 2602, HB 2604, HB 3278. |
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Chair Shetterly |
Meeting adjourned at 10:15 a.m. |
Tape Log Submitted by,
Kathy Tooley, Committee
Assistant Reviewed by Kim Taylor James
Exhibit Summary:
1.
Mazen
Malik, “Staff Measure Summary HJR 45”, 1 page
2.
Meyer,
“Staff Measure Summary HB 2819”, 1 page
3.
Rep.
Krummel, “-1 amendment HB 2819”, 1 page
4.
Meyer,
“Staff Measure Summary HB 2923”, 1 page
5.
Morgan,
“Nguyen letter, Oregon Department of Education”, 1 page
6.
Chiovarro,
“Testimony HB 2923”, 1 page
7.
Bregato,
“Testimony Audrey Sweet HB 2819”, 5 pages
8.
Sell,
“Testimony of Lorrie Freer HB 2819, 8 pages
9.
Martin-Mahar,
“Staff Measure Summary HB 2486, Income Tax Credit for Interest Paid on Debt”, 2
pages
10.
Meador,
“Testimony of Rep. Donna Nelson on HB 2486”, 2 pages
11.
Written
Testimony, “Oregon Auto Dealers Association HB 2486”, 1 page
12.
Malik,
Staff Measure Summary on HB 3271”, 1 page