PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2819, HB 2923,

HJR 45, HB 2486, HB 3271, HB 2629, HB 2630, HB 3052, HB 3451, HJR, 27, HB 3500, HJR 13, HB2556, HB 3607, HB 2837, HB 2598, HB 2599, HB 2601, HB 2602, HB 2604, HB 3278

 

TAPE 120, 121, A-B

 

HOUSE REVENUE COMMITTEE

APRIL 11, 2003   8:30 AM   STATE CAPITOL BUILDING

 

Members Present:                        Representative Lane Shetterly, Chair

                                                Representative Joanne Verger, Vice Chair

                                                Representative Phil Barnhart

                                                Representative Vicki Berger

                                                Representative Pat Farr

                                                Representative Mark Hass

                                                Representative Elaine Hopson

                                                Representative Max Williams                                               

 

Members Excused:                      Representative Wayne Scott, Vice Chair

 

Witness Present:                        Representative Mary Nolan, District 36

                                                Representative Jerry Krummel, District 26

                                                Representative Susan Morgan, District 2

                                                Steve Chiovaro, Superintendent Days Creek School

                                                Dr. Bruce Herbert, Florence

                                                Brian Reeder, Department of Education

                                                William Lay, Pioneer Youth Corps of Oregon

                                                Catherine Lay, League of Oregon Charter Schools,

                                                            Charter School Operator

                                                Nicole Bregato, Staff for Representative Cliff Zauner

                                                Daniel Sell, Gervais district resident

                                                Laurie Wimmer Whelan, Oregon Revenue Coalition

 

Staff Present:                            Paul Warner, Legislative Revenue Officer

                                                Mazen Malik, Legislative Revenue Office

                                                Steve Meyer, Legislative Revenue Office

                                                Lizbeth Martin-Mahar, Legislative Revenue Office

                                                Kathy Tooley, Committee Assistant

 

TAPE 120, SIDE A

004

Chair Shetterly

Calls meeting to order at 8:35 a.m.  HB 3079 has been withdrawn from consideration.

 

OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HJR 45

 

010

Mazen Malik

Provided description of HJR 45, (Exhibit 1).

 

040

Rep. Mary Nolan

Spoke in support of HJR 45, part of two piece proposal for education funding. A strong and prosperous economy relies on a successful high quality education system. Described companion piece in Education Committee that seeks to establish a common statewide definition of a basic education. This bill allows the ability to provide a quality level of education beyond a basic education; noted communities may want to supplement basic education, exceeding or augmenting education based on local industry requirements.

 

148

Rep. Hopson

Regarding the issue of equity, more dollars wouldn’t necessarily mean better, but different, how do you see this as not separating the haves and have-nots in regards to educational opportunity?

 

160

Rep. Nolan

Would like to see Quality Education Model implemented statewide so every K-12 school district has the capacity, management structure, teaching staff to deliver the education achievements the model represents. Schools are not there today, and don’t believe it will happen this session.  Equity demands the definition of a floor that is consistent statewide, that is the equity element.  Current structure does not provide for equity.

 

198

Chair Shetterly

Where this proposes a local option, there is opposition by OEA and COSA; have you had response from them to this proposal?

 

206

Rep. Nolan

Have had conversation with education advocates and representatives, who would prefer a different end result, but acknowledge their option may not be there at sine die.

 

218

Rep. Barnhart

Have you considered separating the pieces of this to the extent that it may not become a revision?  The bill addresses two different issues one as discussed, a second issue is how a local election would be needed and the vote totals required to pass a measure. 

 

219

Rep. Nolan

Having chosen a revision, would prefer one conversation about the issue, rather than multiple measures which can be confusing.

 

258

Chair Shetterly

Recess HJR 45.

 

OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2819

 

266

Rep. Jerry Krummel

This is a policy choice providing flexibility for parents, students and school districts.  The concept is to stop paying for seat time; it is aimed at helping student get what they need for a rounded education.  Also helps with Army National Guard Youth Challenge Program. Enables part of money from school district to follows student.

 

319

 

 

 

360

Rep. Jerry Krummel

 

 

 

Rep. Krummel

Registration based on ADMw, for attendance effective September 1 annually in resident school district.  Allows transfer to another district that fits student needs and 80% of dollars travel with them.

 

Discussed and supported -1 amendment from Rep. Zauner.

 

382

Rep. Verger

Provided examples of a child living in a district, and transferring to another district where the money does follow.  How is that different from HB 2819?    The amendment says student can move without the consent of the school district.  Can’t students currently transfer and have the money follow?

 

389

Rep. Krummel

Currently, school districts have a choice to decline the application, or allow child to go, but not send the money with child.

 

390

Rep. Krummel

Currently takes approval of the school district.  With the amendment if the district declines a transfer, the parent and student could still transfer with 80% of dollars.

 

435

Rep. Verger

Currently system is reciprocal?

 

439

 

Rep. Krummel

Answered affirmatively

441

Steve Meyer

For clarification the statute with amendment appears to still require written consent; inquired if wording was as Rep. Krummel intended?

 

456

Rep. Krummel

Need to check with Legislative Counsel on correct language.

 

464

Chair Shetterly

Noted other mandatory language that may need to be reconciled.

 

 

TAPE 121, SIDE A

 

032

Rep. Barnhart

Regarding establishment of a count as of September 1, what about mobility of students during the school year, and where families aren’t registered by September 1.

 

057

Rep. Krummel

Would prefer a census twice a year, November 1 and March 1 to capture that turnover.

 

065

Chair Shetterly

Recounted ECONorthwest study which show dramatic attendance differences during the year.

 

067

Rep. Krummel

The November count would be registration by the parent; the March would be a count by the district of who has moved in and out.

 

075

Chair Shetterly

Recess Public Hearing on HB 2819

 

 

OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2923

 

078

Steve Meyer

Described HB 2923, (Exhibit 4).

 

087

Rep. Susan Morgan

 

Discussed letter from Anh Nguyen, Oregon Department of Education, (Exhibit 5), described a transfer could be made without statute change, asks the committee to hold the bill pending further conversation with Legislative Counsel.

 

100

Steve Chiovaro

Spoke in support of HB 2923. Provided history of small school correction (Exhibit 6).

 

219

Rep. Barnhart

On switching from public school to a charter school, what are the considerations?

 

222

Chiovaro

Small schools need educational reform, not enough money to have in depth educational reform required. Charter school law provides $50,000 in start up grants to allow Days Creek to see what does work in the state and nation.    Secondly, a federal grant provides for $300,000 which allows for continued operation of the school.

 

242

Rep. Hopson

How many students are at Days Creek High School?

 

243

Chiovaro

Approximately 220 for K-12.

 

246

Rep. Hopson

Days Creek High School currently receives $300,000 from Basic Schools for the high school?

 

251

Chiovaro

A little more approximately $326,000.

 

240

Dr. Bruce Herbert

Spoke in support of HB 2923.  Reiterated testimony of Chiovaro.  Working to establishing a charter high school, many issues discussed are seen in Florence.  Will have amendment that addresses comprehensive high school programs in rural areas.

 

388

Brian Reeder

As it addresses Days Creek issue, do not believe need a bill; have not seen the proposed amendments.

 

405

Chair Shetterly

Close Public Hearing HB 2923

 

 

 

 

REOPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2819

TAPE 120, SIDE B

 

090

William Lay,

Spoke in opposition to HB 2819, concerned with -1 amendment; parent should be able to decide what school a child attends.

 

144

Catherine Lay

Spoke in opposition to HB 2819, described referrals process, level of bureaucracy created for child to attend school of choice.

 

260

Nicole Bregato

Discussed -1 amendment (Exhibit 3).  Amendment allows child to transfer out without district consent, if the school is failing.  Discussed Audrey Swett’s written testimony regarding Gervais school District Report Card compared to Silver Falls (Exhibit 7).

 

317

Rep. Hopson

Would it be possible for the districts to merge?

 

323

Bregato

There is discussion, but resistance from Gervais School Board.

 

340

Rep. Williams

Cosponsors legislation, HB 3104, with Chair Shetterly, calling for review of school district operations, and offers balanced plan for reorganization which could encourage additional consolidation. There are instances that would behoove students and community to consider district consolidation.

 

380

Daniel Sell

Concurred with Lays in that the bill does not give the student a right to attend a particular school, however the bill is a stating point (Exhibit 8).  Gervais closed all transfers. Discussed unanswered threats to children, and removal of child from Gervais school.  Currently trying to have Gervais declared a failing school district under the “No Child Left Behind Act”, enabling the family the right to choose where the child attends school; discussed Silverton school district and problems with recordkeeping.

 

047

Chair Shetterly

Closed Public Hearing on HB 2819

 

OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2486

 

056

Lizbeth Martin-Mahar

Provided description of background HB 2486, (Exhibit 9).

 

080

Matt Meador

Represented Rep. Nelson, spoke in support of HB 2486 (Exhibit 10).

 

119

Chair Shetterly

For the record, received written testimony from the Oregon Auto Dealers Association, (Exhibit 11)

 

124

Laurie Wimmer

Whalen

Spoke in opposition to HB 2486, creating a tax exemption for consumer debt is not in the state’s interest.  It is not means tested, opposes new tax credits if cannot meet criteria and if cannot be revenue neutral.

 

143

Chair Shetterly

Closed Public Hearing on HB 2486.

 

 

REOPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HJR 45

 

130

Brian Reeder

This bill would make fundamental changes to school funding, putting control into local hands.  Department of Education supports change to structure of funding system as local control is a fundamental part of education.

 

187

Chair Shetterly

Closed Public Hearing on HJR 45.

 

OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 3271

 

218

Chair Shetterly

Closed Public Hearing on HB 3271 (Exhibit 12).

 

 

OPENED PUBLIC HEARING ON HB 2629, HB 2630, HB 3052, HB 3451, HJR 27, HB 3500, HJR 13, HB 2556, HB 3607, HB 2837, HB 2598, HB 2599, HB 2601, HB 2602, HB 2604, HB 3278

 

230

Chair Shetterly

Closed Public Hearing on HB 2629, HB 2630, HB 3052, HB 3451, HJR 27, HB 3500, HJR 13, HB 2556, HB 3607, HB 2837, HB 2598, HB 2599, HB 2601, HB 2602, HB 2604, HB 3278.

 

 

 

 

233

Chair Shetterly

Meeting adjourned at 10:15 a.m.

 

 

Tape Log Submitted by,

 

 

 

Kathy Tooley, Committee Assistant Reviewed by Kim Taylor James

 

Exhibit Summary:

1.       Mazen Malik, “Staff Measure Summary HJR 45”, 1 page

2.       Meyer, “Staff Measure Summary HB 2819”, 1 page

3.       Rep. Krummel, “-1 amendment HB 2819”, 1 page

4.       Meyer, “Staff Measure Summary HB 2923”, 1 page

5.       Morgan, “Nguyen letter, Oregon Department of Education”, 1 page

6.       Chiovarro, “Testimony HB 2923”, 1 page

7.       Bregato, “Testimony Audrey Sweet HB 2819”, 5 pages

8.       Sell, “Testimony of Lorrie Freer HB 2819, 8 pages

9.       Martin-Mahar, “Staff Measure Summary HB 2486, Income Tax Credit for Interest Paid on Debt”, 2 pages

10.   Meador, “Testimony of Rep. Donna Nelson on HB 2486”, 2 pages

11.   Written Testimony, “Oregon Auto Dealers Association HB 2486”, 1 page

12.   Malik, Staff Measure Summary on HB 3271”, 1 page